Ben,
No, that's not what I was saying.
My point was that we do live in a majority-rules situation, not that we
should vote on those matters. I am not a resident of the State of
California and cannot speak for their rules of environmental legislation.
My point is that it has been bothering me la
Itchy finger twitching ... *twitch* *twitch*
P.T
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Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:22 PM
Subject: RE: SF to be Nuked
> Hear Hear - Lets get rid of Stonestown while we are at it
>
>
Hey, I shopped there when I was a kid...
At 05:22 PM 6/26/02 -0700, you wrote:
>Hear Hear - Lets get rid of Stonestown while we are at it
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:30 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: SF to be Nuke
Hear Hear - Lets get rid of Stonestown while we are at it
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To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: SF to be Nuked
Nuke the San Mateo Bridge...
At 10:19 PM 6/26/2002 +, you wrote:
>LOL
>
>Ah, yes
>>>Nihon jin ga wakarimassen... :)
Jon Hall wrote:
> Not a clue...found it on a site.
Well, I usually said "(Watashi wa) Nihongo wakarimassen".
Nihon jin (or Nihon-jin or Nihonjin) means "Japanese" (as in person, not
language). Nihon go (or Nihon-go or Nihongo) means "Japanese" (the
language
Not a clue...found it on a site. I wish I knew japanese...much more useful
than french.
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Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: Chat Rooms
> Jon Hall wrote:
> > Nihon ji
Jon Hall wrote:
> Nihon jin ga wakarimassen... :)
Which romanization is that?
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;-)
-Ben
> Nihon jin ga wakarimassen = I don't speak Japanese. Had to look that one up
> :)
>
> jon
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 6:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Chat Rooms
>
>
>
Nihon jin ga wakarimassen = I don't speak Japanese. Had to look that one up
:)
jon
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Subject: Re: Chat Rooms
> Python - attack, attack!
> Stale muffin grenadiers, F
Python - attack, attack!
Stale muffin grenadiers, Fire!!
Muffin pan boppers, stand ready!!!
;-)
and what's "Nihon jin ga wakarimassen" ??
> I was just being catty...Told you to shut your big mouth you little chicken
> ;-)
>
> j/k of course :)
>
> jon
> - Original Message -
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> I guess we'll see what the Supremes have to say.
Or maybe Martha and the Vandellas...
will
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Nuke the San Mateo Bridge...
At 10:19 PM 6/26/2002 +, you wrote:
>LOL
>
>Ah, yes, very different
>
>But to be a safe cigar, it has to come in a plastic
>wrapper - one of the little paper rings isn't enough.
>;-)
>
>-Ben
>
>
> > Castro District... Where you get a different type of cigar...
> >
I was just being catty...Told you to shut your big mouth you little chicken
;-)
j/k of course :)
jon
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Subject: Re: Chat Rooms
> Huh?
> (that's gringo BTW)
>
> ok,
Huh?
(that's gringo BTW)
ok, so I remember the Japanese for "I don't understand"
from Shogun.
What's the rest?
;-)
> Nihon jin ga wakarimassen... :)
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 6:09 PM
Nihon jin ga wakarimassen... :)
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Chat Rooms
> Wakarimassen
> > Fermer votre grande bouche vous petit poule!
> >
> > hehehe
> > - Original Message
LOL
Ah, yes, very different
But to be a safe cigar, it has to come in a plastic
wrapper - one of the little paper rings isn't enough.
;-)
-Ben
> Castro District... Where you get a different type of cigar...
>
> At 10:13 PM 6/26/2002 +, you wrote:
> >News Flash!!
> >
> >The remainder of
Castro District... Where you get a different type of cigar...
At 10:13 PM 6/26/2002 +, you wrote:
>News Flash!!
>
>The remainder of the United States has voted to nuke San
>Francisco, home of the 9th Circuit Court, the Castro
>District, and two female Democratic US Senators.
>
>It's believed
News Flash!!
The remainder of the United States has voted to nuke San
Francisco, home of the 9th Circuit Court, the Castro
District, and two female Democratic US Senators.
It's believed only a small tactical nuke will be needed
to trigger a massive quake on the San Andreas, and cause
this "h
Wakarimassen
> Fermer votre grande bouche vous petit poule!
>
> hehehe
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Chat Rooms
>
>
> > Warning!
> >
> > "Chat" in French means "cat" in
Fermer votre grande bouche vous petit poule!
hehehe
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Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: Chat Rooms
> Warning!
>
> "Chat" in French means "cat" in Engligh.
> So we could all be "catty" i
Senate Resolution passed 99-0 in a roll call vote.
At 04:55 PM 6/26/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Only the democrats. ;) hehe
>
>
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>Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:52 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: US Senate
>
>Figures.
LOL
how could I forget Lieberman?
(the "sort-of-almost" Orthodox - right)
-Ben
> Only the democrats. ;) hehe
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:52 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: US Senate
>
> Fig
Only the democrats. ;) hehe
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Subject: Re: US Senate
Figures.
Political grandstanding for public opinion.
And tell me how many of them are non-Christians?
-Ben
Figures.
Political grandstanding for public opinion.
And tell me how many of them are non-Christians?
-Ben
> I heard the US Senate is voting to condemn the 9th Circuit ruling.
>
>
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I think it's both.
Might be a real site, and a test if you are gullible
and/or trusting enough to type your number into it.
If it's real, who's watching the watchers?
-Ben
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/06/26/identity.theft.ap/index.html
>
> Makes me wonder if this is f
wow. that's pretty amusing. gives me an idea, though...:)
co.
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From: Sandy Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:42 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Service or Scam?
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/06/26/identity.theft.ap/index.html
M
Also in 1954:
Congress passed a law requiring that In God We Trust be placed on all
U.S. coins and currency. Prior to this action, the phrase had appeared
only on some coins but not on dollar bills and paper currency. The first
dollars bearing the religious motto were printed in October 1957. In
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/06/26/identity.theft.ap/index.html
Makes me wonder if this is for real or a planted article to point out
how gullible people really are.
Sandra Clark
Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion 5.0 Developer
Sh
Beth-
Interesting.
Then my ego is wearing rather large trousers?
:-)
Actually, the tummy is big and the ego is rather small.
Have been told I don't give myself enough credit.
(But if I did, would probably buy more stuff with it )
Thanks anyway, friend.
-Ben
> > I'm a fat person, and I agree w
> I'm a fat person, and I agree with you on the airplane
> ticket issue.
You certainly aren't that fat. You just have a fat ego.
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Warning!
"Chat" in French means "cat" in Engligh.
So we could all be "catty" in real time!
:-)
-Ben
> I think we have something there. Break Away Chat Rooms with transcripts
> logged.
>
> I mean anytime anyone needs some hands on coaching, bam - break away into a
> chat room to discuss in g
www.cfchat.net has something like this. You can also print out chat logs. It
has a swear filter, an ignore feature, all the goodies. I use the Free
version myself and love it!
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From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:28 PM
To: CF-C
Bill-
I'm a fat person, and I agree with you on the airplane
ticket issue.
If I take up 2 seats, I take up 2 seats. Simple.
But I fail to see this having anything to do with the
pledge of allegiance issues.
??
-Ben
> :) standing up and not saying the works GOD in the pledge, please explai
I think we have something there. Break Away Chat Rooms with transcripts
logged.
I mean anytime anyone needs some hands on coaching, bam - break away into a
chat room to discuss in greater detail. and in real time.
I think it would be great.
Eric
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The original complaint was about a Cuban who, if really
disaffected, could move back to her native Cuban. In
general, it implied "if you don't like it here, go back
to the country you came from".
The subsequent post was about a native born-American.
This is the country they came from.
Once again incorrect facts:
In *1954*, not 1957, Congress after a campaign by the Knights of
Columbus, added the words, 'under God,' to the Pledge. The Pledge was
now both a patriotic oath and a public prayer.
So, 62 years without it, 48 with it.
-Original Message-
From: John Fix 3r
Russel-
thank you.
this is exactly the kind of elaboration I was trying to
get from the folks on the list who know more about this
than I.
-Ben
> I must point out that many of out founding fathers were not Christian. They
> were deist or athiest. Examples are Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin
I suppose it's a good thing to be patriotic, but I don't have a great deal
of respect for my country. Doesn't mean I should have to leave it though?
w
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Sent: 26 June 2002 22:19
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: RE: RE: CNN
Will-
in a case like that, am sure there would be volunteers
on the list to just "get him out" if ya know what I mean
;-)
-Ben
> but if he were born in America, and was bitching constantly, where would he
> get the f*** out to?
>
> if you see what I mean?
>
> w
>
> -Original Message-
"Under God" was added to the pledge in 1957 by an act of Congress. It
was put in near the height of the Cold War while we were battling the
atheist communist alliance. That means for most of it's life, the
pledge had no reference to God.
John
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Actually, it's only defacement if:
1. you are trying to change the value of the money(ie make a $10 into a
$100)
2. You are trying to obscure the writing on the bill or damage it so badly
that it has to be taken out of circulation.
The guy that runs th
No, no - not BOB!
That demon spawn of Microsoft shall not rise again!!
:-)
-Ben
> Lets avoid getting into fights or I'll dedicate this entire list to the lord
> BOB!
>
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I would like to respectfully disagree with something you
said, if I interpreted it correctly.
I think you said that as a representative democracy we
should vote on such matters as "under God" in the pledge.
If I'm correct on that, then this is exactly the kind of
thinking the establi
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Another Eri (insert appropriate letter(s) here) a
Welcome!!!
*** offers up traditional welcome muffin ***
:)
Erika
With a K
>>| -Original Message-
>>| From: [EMAIL
:) standing up and not saying the works GOD in the pledge, please explain to
me how that
infringes on someone's rights?
Its like the fat people (Yes I know I'm being terrible unpc) who are pissed
that south west is charging if they take up 2 seats.
Well newsflash the airlines have done that for
Are they getting back together?
Will they go on tour?
Is Michael Jackson gonna substitute for Diana Ross?
Stay tuned.
Oh, wait, you mean "those" Supremes.
NM...
;-)
> I guess we'll see what the Supremes have to say.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
yes what did Canada ever do to the US to deserve that.
larry
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I am ready to just agree to disagree on this one as I am getting nothing
done :)
-Original Message-
From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:02 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: RE: CNN Breaking News
> I think God can be interpreted as whatever God you wa
that seems cruel ;)
w
-Original Message-
From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 26 June 2002 21:53
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: RE: RE: CNN Breaking News
:) He can get out to whereever he wants besides here, he can move to Canada.
Bill Wheatley
Senior Database Devel
So everyone who believes in God has more rights than those of us who don't.
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From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: RE: CNN Breaking News
> No it is one nation under God.
I must point out that many of out founding fathers were not Christian. They were
deist or athiest. Examples are Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin, both on the
commitee that authored the Declaration of Independence. By categorizing them all as
white male Christians is incorrect.
Here is
> I think God can be interpreted as whatever God you want it to be.
So satanists have more rights than atheists?
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Actually I do believe that our founding fathers would totally approve.
These men, while most of them were christian, were very forward thinking.
They recognized that freedom of religion should be a basic freedom for all
americans, and they meant all americans. Including the right not to be a
reli
Kevin-
Good point - for Christians, Jews, and Muslims.
What about Buddhists (more a philosophy than a
religion), Hindus, agnostics, and atheists??
-Ben
> No it is one nation under God. We both believe in the same God.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAI
yea but now we can neglect our work in Real time :)
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From: "Dan Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent:
www.cfchat.net
-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:51 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: RE: CNN Breaking News
Dig me up one of those web based chats and I'll see about putting it up.
At 04:42 PM 6/26/02, you wrote:
>Ch
:) He can get out to whereever he wants besides here, he can move to Canada.
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From: "Will Swain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[
A chat room? Like we all don't neglect our work enough just reading this
group :-)
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:43 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: RE: CNN Breaking News
Chat room! Good idea.
Mid to late? 92% of the
I think he was saying that 1892 should be late 19th Century.
> -Original Message-
> From: Hatton Humphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:31 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: CNN Breaking News
>
> (*wince*) Kevin, the 1800's are considered the 19'th centu
Dig me up one of those web based chats and I'll see about putting it up.
At 04:42 PM 6/26/02, you wrote:
>Chat room! Good idea.
>
>Mid to late? 92% of the Century had already passed. How can you even
>include mid in that statement?
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ma
lol we're gonna have to come up with a stamp to stamp over their stamp :)
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but if he were born in America, and was bitching constantly, where would he
get the f*** out to?
if you see what I mean?
w
-Original Message-
From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 26 June 2002 20:57
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: RE: RE: CNN Breaking News
Well i dont kno
Nice, those people are breaking the law by defacing currency.
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Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:39 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: CNN Breaking News
Well i guess we all ought to start saving our change and bills cau
Chat room! Good idea.
Mid to late? 92% of the Century had already passed. How can you even
include mid in that statement?
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Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:37 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: RE: CNN Breaking News
lol :)
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From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:36 PM
Subject
Well i guess we all ought to start saving our change and bills cause it will
be off our money soon enough.
Someone's already started that campaign. I accidentally stumbled across this
site the other night...
http://www.godoffmoney.com
*returning to lurking mode now*
Exactly. What's your point? 1850 would be mid 19th Century. 1892 would
be the end of the 19th Century, do you not agree?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:31 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: CNN Breaking News
(*wince*
its mid to late close enough :)
Mikey :) idea, you need to make a CFCOMMUNITY chat room :) screw this
waiting for email stuff
lol just give us a db driven chat room! :)
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> The apathy in what the system is doing to us will tear this nation apart
> long before the actions being taken do.
That's supposed to say "The apathy in what the system is *going to us
will tear this nati
Kevin-
that's a very good point (about God in this document).
Would be willing to bet that the group of predominately
male white Christians who made the Declaration of
Independence were doing so with a certain amount of
emotion - "impel" is the word they used, so invoking God
to put the most
(*wince*) Kevin, the 1800's are considered the 19'th century... the
1900's were the 20'th century and we're now in the 21'st century.
Hatton
Kevin Schmidt wrote:
> Francis Bellamy (1855 - 1931), a Baptist minister, wrote the original
> Pledge in August 1892
>
> Okay so now 1892 is mid 19th ce
Many children are not given the option of opting out of the recitation... my
HS used to give detention to students who were unwilling to speak the
pledge...
-Original Message-
From: Hatton Humphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:26 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject:
Let me start this by saying that I am in no means trying to attack Beth
or anyone else on the list that is non-Christian... I don't have time
nor do I think this is the right forum to go into religous standings or
histories.
The thing that bothers me is twofold. On the one hand there is the
I guess we'll see what the Supremes have to say.
-Original Message-
From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:14 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: RE: CNN Breaking News
Then the inclusion of the phrase Under God then violates the
establishment
clause
Francis Bellamy (1855 - 1931), a Baptist minister, wrote the original
Pledge in August 1892
Okay so now 1892 is mid 19th century. Get your facts straight Larry
before posting.
-Original Message-
From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:15 PM
To: CF
This all reminds me of the Scopes Monkey Trial :) A little bit
different of a case though. :)
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/scopes/evolut.htm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:13 PM
To: CF-Communi
What does having or not having the words "under God" in
the pledge have to do with respecting one's country?
Beth gives me the impression that she truly loves and
respects this country. I am proud to call her a fellow
American. But she does not believe in God.
The constitution prohibited the
If you read it carefully, it states Nature's God.
That was done on purpose, Thomas Jefferson and many of the founding
fathers were atheists, and agnostic.
They said it this way to make sure it was not a religious thing.
It was stated that way to be broad enough to encompass as many beliefs
as p
Larry,
well said, IMO.
-Ben
> Put it this way, would you object if the words were changed to Allah, or
> Vishnu? How about Satan?
>
> The constitution is for all citizen, not just some that happen to worship
> one particular deity, which is what the pledge of allegiance says. moreover
> the p
Then the inclusion of the phrase Under God then violates the establishment
clause of the constitution.
larry
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Considering that the pledge was written in the mid-19th century, then yes it
is recent.
larry
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As a kid in kindergarten I remember that we had to say the Pledge of
Alleigiance every morning unless we had a note from our parents. My mother
being a Jehovah's Witness (barf), I wasn't allowed to say it. So every
morning I sat down and didn't say it...no big deal...but a 8 year old kid
wonders w
No it is one nation under God. We both believe in the same God.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:04 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: RE: CNN Breaking News
and I am a Jew who believes in God, and also firmly
believe
:) on the same token that you are free to OPTIONALLY say GOD
you can OPTIONALLY not say god ;) there all better
Bill Wheatley
Senior Database Developer
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nothing personal, just factual.
;)
No offence intended.
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:50 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: CNN Breaking News
>
> Hey now no personal attacks! My skin is about a thick as onion
Damn it.
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:36 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: CNN Breaking News
>
> He for got indivisible.
>
> I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to
> the Republ
Keeping the "Under god" reference has two problems:
1: Since it's taught in schools, that means the government is endorsing
religion.
2: It implies that our nation is somehow endorsed by god.
#1 is unfair to children being raised as atheists, and #2 leads to "holy
wars".
Honestly, I never had
You didn't have to say it.
> -Original Message-
> From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:35 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: RE: CNN Breaking News
>
> I am an athiest and resented saying "under god"
>
"Trying to divide it?"
Explain how, please.
-Ben
> Indivisible? Right. The 9th district is trying to divide it...
>
> At 02:36 PM 6/26/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >He for got indivisible.
> >
> >I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to
> >the Republic for which it s
48 years is fairly recent? That's almost half the span of the pledges
life.
-Original Message-
From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 2:56 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: RE: CNN Breaking News
Put it this way, would you object if the words were ch
and I am a Jew who believes in God, and also firmly
believes Beth has the right *not* to believe in God if
she chooses, that her right is constitutionally
protected, and that Congress was *wrong* in re-writing
the pledge and adding that phrase.
I also resented the fact that as a kid, some "Ch
I think God can be interpreted as whatever God you want it to be.
-Original Message-
From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 2:56 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: RE: CNN Breaking News
Put it this way, would you object if the words were changed to All
hehe fabulous idea
Bill Wheatley
Senior Database Developer
Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer
EDIETS.COM
954.360.9022 X159
ICQ 417645
- Original Message -
From: "Cameron Childress" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:
Shouldn't you respect the country then for not letting you respect it?
-Original Message-
From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 2:44 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: RE: RE: CNN Breaking News
> Then guess what, you don't have to say it. I don't
So should we change this document too so the mention of God is not
officially in it.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people
to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another,
and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal
Well i dont know but i'm of the belief is someone doesnt respect their
country they can get the F### out ;)
I live in florida where i have the misfortune of living next to this ingrate
cuban who bitches constantly about how F***King bad america is and how much
it sucks and one day i just had to g
Put it this way, would you object if the words were changed to Allah, or
Vishnu? How about Satan?
The constitution is for all citizen, not just some that happen to worship
one particular deity, which is what the pledge of allegiance says. moreover
the phrase under god is a fairly recently additi
We really should just subscribe this list directly to CNN/MSNBC "breaking
news". It only takes a nanosecond for those messages to end up on here as
it is. :)
-Cameron
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Cameron Childress
Sumo Consulting Inc.
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