[PS2] Beat "Prince of Persion: The Warrior Within"

2005-07-09 Thread Jim Davis
I actually beat it last week (I just beat "God of War" yesterday, more on that later). First things first: I didn't like this game nearly as much as the first. The first ("Price of Persia: The Sands of Time") was fairly light hearted and had a much, much stronger narrative. This one wasn't bad: i

RE: but how do they *know* it's a dino?

2005-07-09 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 11:56 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: but how do they *know* it's a dino? > > It's a giant three toed sloth! Just noticed this... are talking about that guy that insists that giant sl

fyi - libel

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
For the purpose of clarifying discussion I am pasting below a definition of libel, just so we can all see it. Shiavo does not have a case against me. I would have a case against Jennifer if I were the type to pursue it -- with reckless disregard for actual facts, she has falsely accused me o

Re: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
She isn't taking the fifth, I don't believe. Dana On 7/9/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dana, > > Just want you to know that I wasn't trying to be rude. Just didn't > have the energy for this kind of thing. Here's something that seems > like it might be pertinent. I'll admit thou

Re: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
No she didn't. She researched it. Period. But apparently the person she taked to was not Karl Rove, and is afraid to come forward. (A guess). I do not know why Novak is not in this and I think he should make a statement on the subject since in my opinion he allowed himself to be used by Rove, and

Re: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
You want to argue libel law with someone that's been a working reporter? Really? No, Kevin, with all respect for your often intelligent views. First of all, I would argue truth, the first and best defense. He does absolutely conform to the profile. Whether you agree with the validity of the prof

Re: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
it's my understanding that she did appear, but I could be mistaken. She was present but said she could not name her source. That's what I understand. Dana On 7/9/05, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am not sure whether she has refused to testify at all vs testify as > > to her

Re: Play (was Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry)

2005-07-09 Thread Gruss Gott
> Kevin wrote: > Madison's a nice town. But it likes to think it's more cultured than > it is. At least it tries though, I guess. > Yes, but you have L'etoile and many other great restaurants that put Minneapolis (and some in Chicago) to shame. Not to mention red brats-n-beer. And cheese (not

Re: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread Kevin Graeme
Dana, Just want you to know that I wasn't trying to be rude. Just didn't have the energy for this kind of thing. Here's something that seems like it might be pertinent. I'll admit though that my brain glazed over while reading it. Parts of it seem like they might support my understanding of the l

Re: Cool Laszlo apps

2005-07-09 Thread Mike Tangorre
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Cool Laszlo apps

2005-07-09 Thread Kevin Graeme
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Re: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread Kevin Graeme
Dana, you know I'm paranoid of Big Brother government. In this particular case though, I think that the "collateral damage" to the press is self-inflicted. Yes freedom of speech is important. From my read of the situation, there was no intent here to limit her freedom of speech. She's being jailed

Re: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> I am not sure whether she has refused to testify at all vs testify as > to her source, but what the prosecutor really wants is the name of her > source, right? So the distinction seems academic. I thought the Time > reporter was released from his pledge by his source but I coud be > wrong. T

RE: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread Loathe
She didn't write the story. That's the gist of what I get. Why is she in jail. She didn't publish the name of the CIA agent, didn't help the government to turn on one of it's own. She instead took the info and did nothing with it because she saw it for what it was. Had she written the story th

Re: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
ok that's good enough for me. Obviously the NYT has an agenda in reporting this but hey would have been even more scrupulous in vetting the story because of that. Well. Freedom of the press, RIP. Dana On 7/9/05, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/09/national/

Re: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
I'd be interested in you opinion. Dana On 7/9/05, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > See, would Nixon have resigned without someone breaking the law? The post > reporters didn't go to jail for that did they? What about the Vietnam > papers? All the stuff leaked from CIA over the years about a

RE: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread Loathe
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/09/national/09cleveland.html?ex=1278561600&en =6db3499adc28c260&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 6:21 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: the advent of thought crime it should!

Re: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
it should! I dunno if it's true but it's very scary if it is. On 7/9/05, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The last comment is what gets me: > > Did you read today in the NYT that the Cleveland Plain Dealer is withholding > publication of an investigative series because it features reporting fr

RE: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread Loathe
See, would Nixon have resigned without someone breaking the law? The post reporters didn't go to jail for that did they? What about the Vietnam papers? All the stuff leaked from CIA over the years about assassination attempts and coups against legal governments in third world countries? Should t

RE: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread Loathe
The last comment is what gets me: Did you read today in the NYT that the Cleveland Plain Dealer is withholding publication of an investigative series because it features reporting from illegally leaked documents, and they're worried about the reporters going to jail? The chilling effect has begun.

Re: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
I am not sure whether she has refused to testify at all vs testify as to her source, but what the prosecutor really wants is the name of her source, right? So the distinction seems academic. I thought the Time reporter was released from his pledge by his source but I coud be wrong. Here's anot

Re: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> However, while the freedom of the press issues might be collateral > damage, this might be longer lasting and more significant than the > arrogance of one administration or the peril of one agent. My understanding of the jailing of the reporter was because of her refusal to testify at all in the

Re: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
I should disclose that? :) If you say so darlin', but remember that lately you've been agreeing with me... Dana wondering if this is where I get to see TIm implode talking to himself On 7/9/05, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And bleeding heart liberalism, don't forget that :) > > J/K :)

RE: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread Loathe
And bleeding heart liberalism, don't forget that :) J/K :) -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 5:47 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: the advent of thought crime Interesting that I agree with all of your intermediate arguments and disagre

Re: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
Interesting that I agree with all of your intermediate arguments and disagree with all of your conclusions. But it seems to me that given the murkiness of the issues that reasonable people may differ. But still. I offer a few thoughts in the interests of furthering discussion. I do think that the

RE: You've done it!

2005-07-09 Thread Loathe
Wow I don't know how I missed that one :) -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 5:13 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: You've done it! I nominate this for the best cf-community post of the month. On 7/8/05, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PRO

Re: You've done it!

2005-07-09 Thread Kevin Graeme
I nominate this for the best cf-community post of the month. On 7/8/05, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You know... after reading all of these posts for these many years, > everyone's finally convinced me to become a liberal polyamorous homosexual > pot smoking wife killing atheist rep

Re: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread Kevin Graeme
While I think the leaking of information is a very, very serious issue, I think the media frenzy about media rights is perhaps overblown. And at the very least distracting from the CIA leak issue. I'm going to reply inline to a couple of the articles. Since this is just an informal discussion, I a

Re: Play (was Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry)

2005-07-09 Thread Kevin Graeme
I miss grown up theaters. Around here they never have food or drink at intermission and if they do have them on opening night it's after the show and it's something stupid like apple juice and crackers that people on the production brought in. That's what they fed us in kindergarten. Admittedly, I

Re: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
I guess in a nutshell I'm saying that metrosexuals perform the function of George Orwell's "memory holes". Rather than destroying documents (which has serious practical limitations) the current Ministry of Truth merely relies on the complacency of the average, comfortable American to care more abou

Re: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
I agree. Here is a slightly more critical analysis of Judith Miller's position. But viewed in the larger setting of an overall erosion of freedom, I am more inclined to Richard Reeves' point of view. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/07/AR2005070701900.html Print This

Re: A Letter To The Terrorists, From London

2005-07-09 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> what is not said is not said because the British don't :) > but to apply the idea in a totally different setting, > wouldn't you think that the exclusion of information > about contraception from a health class is just as > important as what is being taught? Heh... I can't imagine how anyone co

RE: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> "Judy Miller is just the best known of the ordinary > citizens being sent to jail for malicious thinking > about our emerging police state." > You know what? I don't know enough about this > case to comment, but that last little bit about > the emerging police state, yeah I can see it. > After

Re: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
I barely recognized Valerie Plame's name a few days ago so I don't claim to be any kind of expert on this topic. But what really scares me is that this journalist is no raving liberal, and if you can believe him, neither is Judith Miller. This is not partisan hyperbole. I first came across this in

Re: A Letter To The Terrorists, From London

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
what is not said is not said because the British don't :) but to apply the idea in a totally different setting, wouldn't you think that the exclusion of information about contraception from a health class is just as important as what is being taught? or, to be political some more, what about the

RE: the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread Loathe
"Judy Miller is just the best known of the ordinary citizens being sent to jail for malicious thinking about our emerging police state." You know what? I don't know enough about this case to comment, but that last little bit about the emerging police state, yeah I can see it. After the eminent

the advent of thought crime

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
http://www.richardreeves.com/columns/latest.html July 7, 2005 THE JAILING OF JUDY MILLER BY RICHARD REEVES | Printer-Friendly Format | E-Mail Story | Universal Press Syndicate SAG HARBOR, N.Y. -- So they put Judy Miller in jail last Wednesday -- for what she thought. This bunch would put u

RE: A Letter To The Terrorists, From London

2005-07-09 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
>> it's like a polite reply to our 9/11 attacks, >> without all the threatening and stuff. those >> brits are so darned polite. > As a brit, it's what is not said that is most > interesting about this letter. There is an > underlying feeling that goes far beyond the > words. I find that really f

Re: everyone's looking for a quick buck....

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
it's major surgery, which is always potentially life-threatening. And some doctors push it to keep their own schedule on track. I don't EVEN want to start on what I think of that since people are already accusing me of being anti-doctor :) I'll just say thank my own providers (Holy Cross Hospital a

Re: everyone's looking for a quick buck....

2005-07-09 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> ::nod:: come to think of it I don't think anyone > even tried to do one on me. But they may have > gotten the general idea from what I said about > the epidural :P I can be a bit sharp-tongued at > times. I have a tendancy to be generally distrustfull of doctors, especially obstetricians, becaus

Re: What Makes God Laugh?

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
ya :) I beieve they may be the same sect that practices the art of making bonzai mountains. There are also some great jokes in Thief of Time about never underestimating a wizened old man carrying a broom. But Vimes, Vimes is a masterpiece, a dead-on portrait of a working-class Brit who does his j

Re: What Makes God Laugh?

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
http://www.convictcreations.com/animals/platypus.htm On 7/9/05, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In The Last Continent, where Rincewind is stranded > > in XXX, a vaguely Australian desert, a committee > > of wizards attempt to show an aboriginal creative > > power what a duck looks

Re: What Makes God Laugh?

2005-07-09 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> I've followed the discworld series since the first > book - I had just met Wendy and she loaned her copy > to me. I've enjoyed how the world has evolved from > a vaguely medieval set up to a far more fully > realized universe. There's a great deal of humanism > in Pratchett's writing with a very

Re: What Makes God Laugh?

2005-07-09 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> In The Last Continent, where Rincewind is stranded > in XXX, a vaguely Australian desert, a committee > of wizards attempt to show an aboriginal creative > power what a duck looks like, in a reference to > the old joke, And yes, they vote on whether > it should have webbed feet. I don't think I

Re: London??

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
good question actually. The British tried for decades, then the Russians. I am not qualified to answer it either, but Tim may have an idea. But beyond the question, how does it make sense to say "Afghanistan is a centuries-old insurgency and cannot be secured. Therefore let's invade this totally

Re: London??

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
er... I meant a tad more than a week. Here's some more, Sam... though I know Greg Palast is contrary to your religion. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/4354269.stm.. Last Updated: Thursday, 17 March, 2005, 15:41 GMT E-mail this to a friend Printable version Secret US pla

Re: London??

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
I think it was a tad more than a link, if the following is accurate: http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20050613&s=scahill The Other Bomb Drops Jeremy Scahill PRINT THIS ARTICLE EMAIL THIS ARTICLE WRITE TO THE EDITORS TAKE ACTION NOW SUBSCRIBE TO THE NATION It was a huge air assaul

Re: London??

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
I believe we have here a lightbulb moment. On 7/8/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We can't attack every country that has terrorists can we? ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket applicat

Re: What Makes God Laugh?

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
there are a dozen or so novels. They contain brilliant satire on any number of topics. In The Last Continent, where Rincewind is stranded in XXX, a vaguely Australian desert, a committee of wizards attempt to show an aboriginal creative power what a duck looks like, in a reference to the old joke,

Re: London??

2005-07-09 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > We are doing all of that. > It would appear you're the victim of some bad information: The US military in Afghanistan says they have no information about a claim by the Taleban that they have executed an American special forces soldier. A Taleban spokesman said that the group, wh

Re: Play (was Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry)

2005-07-09 Thread Gruss Gott
> Kevin wrote: > Where did you see it? I used to go to the Guthrie fairly often. I hear > they're moving. Have they yet? > Yeah Guthrie, and nope still the old one. It's nice because it's small so there's not a bad seat in the house, but it is cramped. They have a nice deal too in that you can

Re: What Makes God Laugh?

2005-07-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I've followed the discworld series since the first book - I had just met Wendy and she loaned her copy to me. I've enjoyed how the world has evolved from a vaguely medieval set up to a far more fully realized universe. There's a great deal of humanism in Pratchett's writing with a very strong posit

Re: very off-topic: human needs - sex vs. relationships

2005-07-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Any time. larry On 7/9/05, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Sounds like a jerk, no he's demonstrated in the > >>> first sentance that he is a jerk. Actually I'd > >>> say major ass. The sort of person its not > >>> worth getting upset over. > >> > >>Thanks Larry... > >> > >>You t

Re: everyone's looking for a quick buck....

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
::nod:: come to think of it I don't think anyone even tried to do one on me. But they may have gotten the general idea from what I said about the epidural :P I can be a bit sharp-tongued at times. Dana On 7/8/05, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Dana [

Re: my dad is ok

2005-07-09 Thread Dana
well yeah. And several million people just did something similar I am sure. He just answered my email... he's at home in rural Norfolk puttering around his garden. Dana On 7/8/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dana wrote: > > nuff said > > > > Glad to hear, Dana. It's sad that you

Play (was Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry)

2005-07-09 Thread Kevin Graeme
Where did you see it? I used to go to the Guthrie fairly often. I hear they're moving. Have they yet? -Kevin On 7/8/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To change topics, I just saw a looonnnggg play with Angela Bassett > (sp?), the dad from Family Matters, and some other stars I think. I

RE: A Letter To The Terrorists, From London

2005-07-09 Thread Paul Vernon
> it's like a polite reply to our 9/11 attacks, without all the > threatening and stuff. those brits are so darned polite. As a brit, it's what is not said that is most interesting about this letter. There is an underlying feeling that goes far beyond the words. Paul ~

Re: What Makes God Laugh?

2005-07-09 Thread Jeffry Houser
This thread reminds me of a Depeche mode song called Blasphemous rumors. I don't want to start any Blasphemous rumors but I think that God has a sick sense of humor and when I die I expect to find him laughing The song was about a 16 year old girl who slashes her wrists, but doesn't die. Sh