I have an mp3 player that uses 2.5" laptop drives and acts like an external usb
drive. someone with some knowledge can use a device like that to pop out the
laptop drive, attach it to a Linux machine, hack the Windows SAM file and get
the local admin password. I imagine the fingerprint stuff is
Wow You go girl. The 90 pound loss is awesome.
I bought a pedometer last week to keep up with all the walking I am
doing out here in SF. As of today, I've walked 5.6 miles this week.
It doesn't sound like much unless you factor in that when I got out
here I got short of breath walking across
No, not getting pregnant is the one that made sense to me.
I was 25. We had been married 6 years, I was almost three years into my
first enlistment, getting ready to buy a house and get promoted to E-5.
We all make choices.
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL P
afaik it's generally accepted.
It was not until the United States entered World War II that Roosevelt's ideas
for massive public expenditures and deficit spending truly began to bear fruit.
Roosevelt's administration, of course, had little choice but to increase
expenditures, given the war eff
and in your opinion abortion is the one that demonstrates personal
responsibility
Sorry, I am stuck on that one. But this whole thread has so many stereotypes
that -- well, life is short and I have groceries to buy.
Dana
>Umm, there were two options there, her very real choices. - said the
Wow, if that's what you think happened to end the depression, wow.
Umm, socialism in America? WW 2?
That's what ended the depression, one that wouldn't have happened in the
first place were they truly following models closer to his. The huge over
rating in the market, the runs. I mean it was a
Considering he and people of his thought were fairly liberal (read
libertarian) in their beliefs.
Hell, greenspan was a close personal friend of Ayn Rand.
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 11:52 PM
> To: CF-Community
Umm, there were two options there, her very real choices. - said the
agnostic libertarian.
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 9:52 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: CF-Comm Welfare Invitational
>
>
> wow... abortio
All they would need to do is add new OS.
Or pull the drive and stick it on another PC.
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:02 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Fuck! My laptop was stolen!
>
>
> On 1/26/06,
Credit cards?
If the person has your address (W2) Social and Phone Number, he could get
new ones sent out, or get the number and use em online maybe?
Christ that suck ass man.
I'm sorry.
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, Jan
um... yeah. For example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_luther_king#King_and_the_FBI
>Hoover, did anything he do ever get declared illegal?
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:46 PM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subj
Because they lie about everything? They lie and hide stuff when it would be
easier to tell the truth. AFAIK they still haven't released the records of
those energy policy committee meetings...like we don't all already know that
Enron was there.
Dana
>Why shouldn't we believe them?
>
>Why would
exactly
>The line between protective intelligence gathering and fascist spying is trust.
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I think they are saying that it is not extensive. Do you believe them, is the
next question.
>It's always possible that I've misunderstood what I heard, but I thought
>there was extensive domestic spying. Sorry if I got it wrong.
>
>--Ben
>
>Sam wrote:
>>
~~
that makes quite a bit of sense.
Dana
>I agree Ben, this is the exact point that everyone I talk to is upset about.
>
>Do I find the difference between "reasonable belief" and "probable
>cause" the sticking point. No. I can see the difference between
>intelligence gathering and prosecution. If t
but isn't the who;e point that they aren't and don't think they have to?
>As long as they're complying with the 72 hour post tap warrant activity, I
>have no issues whatsoever.
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yes, and very convenient it has been. The only better scam I can think of is
papl infallibility.
Dana
> The President very clearly stated after 9/11 that we were engaged in a
> war against Al Qaeda and more generally against terrorism that
> threatens our society.
>
>
> >Werenotat..
this is also my understanding. SO unless I am wrong about that, I really fail
to see why they can't make a phone call and say we have a hot tip and we are
tapping the phone of x, can you please schedule this asap? Cause I think that
is all they are required to do.
>Wait... because the informati
I'm several years out from macroeconomics, and it would take a lot of time and
checking to write you a summary. There are plenty of resources out there. Try
this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynsian
>> Dana wrote:
>> For sure not right now and probably not at all. I have zombie thread fatigue.
might be worth calling some pawn shops. I know the police should be doing this
-- theoretically...
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It may sound pompous, I dunno. But according to the macroeconomics I learned,
the ideas you have been talking about prolonged the depression by perhaps five
years. Sure, in the long run the economy would have recovered on its own but as
the man said, "in the long run we are all dead." Keynes' id
> Dana wrote:
> For sure not right now and probably not at all. I have zombie thread fatigue.
> I think I already said that, but maybe it was in another thread.
>
You're always implying and insinuating, but you seem to have an
inability to lay out you ideology in a few bullets.
Give it shot. Exp
On 1/26/06, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/26/06, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > how easy is it to strongarm windows logon?
> > i know they can flash the bios, i know they can turn it on...
> > do you not have a password required for login?
>
> I had the fingerprint requir
My guess, is, because he can.
> -Original Message-
> From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:52 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Sen. Kennedy agrees
>
> that's the heart of my problem with this -- if it's almost always a
rubber
> stamp, why n
Hoover, did anything he do ever get declared illegal?
> -Original Message-
> From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:46 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Sen. Kennedy agrees
>
> the ability to spy on Americans has alredy been abused, assuming
Why shouldn't we believe them?
Why would they lie about this. It is far easier to tell the truth.
> -Original Message-
> From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:33 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Sen. Kennedy agrees
>
> Tony
>
> That is wh
> Dana wrote:
> because experience says your mind is closed? Duh. Do you know who Keynes is
> yet?
1.) That's the reason for the Welfare Invitational! Instead of
talking about Keynes, talk about 3 non-handicapped people who need our
tax dollars because they can't work. That way we avoid the who
that's the heart of my problem with this -- if it's almost always a rubber
stamp, why not do it, especially as you are allowed to do it afterwards? I can
only think of two answers to that question. Either they simply have a deep
contempt for due process, which I consider a bad thing in my govern
except that if you really want to know, you can hit reply -- then it displays
it.
> That is by request of the members of this list. So that there is less
> traceability when people Google people to the comments some make on
> this list.
~~~
the ability to spy on Americans has alredy been abused, assuming it is not
being abused right now... J. Edgar Hoover, remember him? Ever hear about
Richard Nixon, and the fact that people who criticized him got an IRS audit?
Let me tell you, even if you are playing it completely straight, a tax
I don't think the problem in New Orleans was bureaucracy. I think it was very
simply that the president does not want to hear bad news. He simply refuses to
deal with it, and that is how you get the disconnect that we have between
policy and reality.
> The red tape bull shit that stood in the w
For sure not right now and probably not at all. I have zombie thread fatigue.
I think I already said that, but maybe it was in another thread.
Dana
>> Dana wrote:
>> wow... abortion as personal responsibility.
>>
>
>So just this morning you were telling KG that I just wouldn't listen.
>Well I'm
Tony
That is what they are telling you. Do you really think you should believe them?
More to the point, do you think they are competent to do this? You and I may
not be doing anything wrong, but I'd still just as soon that the guvmint wasn't
looking through my inbox, thanks.
Dana
>stran
> Dana wrote:
> wow... abortion as personal responsibility.
>
So just this morning you were telling KG that I just wouldn't listen.
Well I'm listening! So how about it? Are you going to cough up your
3 people and explain why they need our tax dollars?
~~
On 1/26/06, dramaqueenG spewed:
> I challenge you!
We're talking about the national security of this country, a team that
has one purpose and that's to prevent an attack. There are oversights
in place and believe me there will be plenty of investigations and the
people involved know it. Congress k
No question.
>The point of the matter is that it is, in my opinion, a broken system
>that is too big and too corrupt for it's own good.
>
>Hatton
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>And Tim... BTW
>
>Thank You.
>
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I don't think the people currently in power are open to being convinced. I
personally don't feel much guilt about them being there... I literally did
everything I could at the time, but the fix was in down here, in case Ohio went
wrong I guess.
I do think that a nation that wants to support its
because experience says your mind is closed? Duh. Do you know who Keynes is
yet? We went through that one a long time ago, yet you continue to post things
that he answered in 1920 or 30.
Furthermore, I'll get called a socialist a few dozen times in the process and
lose my temper. You ever hear
that's because you have to pay both the employer and employess portion. Makes
sense, if you are self-employed. The good news is that part of it counts as a
business expense.
>Yeah, COBRA is BS.
>
>It's expensive as hell.
>
>Chrissie just got our insurance set up with Care First BC/BS. It's goi
ill never change my mind that i think we *MAY* need to take
*SOME* liberties as a scared nation. i wholly do not agree with
wanton illegal wiretapping. not at all. i also have not a mental
shred of desire to beat a dead horse. i hope for changes and i
hope for accountability. but i realize at t
you might want to fact-check that
>When you get paid more for having the kids than you can with most jobs
>in the area, especially if you have no education and training, what do
>you expect.
>
>larry
>
>On 1/26/06, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
~~~
wow... abortion as personal responsibility.
that's great
Dana
>Who should not have gotten pregnant in the first place?
>
>Who should be getting child support?
>
>Who could have had an abortion if she was unable to care for the child, or
>put the child up for adoption?
>
>Personal responsibilit
> Weegs wrote:
> you are right. i guess im done with this one.
>
Really? You're changing your mind? If so, that's about the most
impressive thing a man can do.
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> Autocratic Sam wrote:
> We're not tapping Iraqis, we're tapping al Qaeda. I think we're mixing
> the Patriot Act and Iraq war into a discussion about wiretaps that
> specifically target al Qaeda and associates and the war they declared
> against us.
>
I challenge you!
Name any stranger that you
Here's an interesting view on when and how Congress surrendered it's power:
http://www.ccc.nps.navy.mil/rsepResources/si/sept03/strategy.asp
The United States has conducted several "RMA wars": the Persian Gulf
War in 1991, the Kosovo war in 1999, and the war with Iraq in 2003.
The RMA allows vari
you are right. i guess im done with this one.
catch em while you can big brother. i hope you
have my best interest in mind.
tony
On 1/26/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Weegs wrote:
> > you arent my government, im not a terrorist. nor do i support terrorists.
> > nor do i involve
> Weegs wrote:
> you arent my government, im not a terrorist. nor do i support terrorists.
> nor do i involve myself in the local fucking mosque.
>
1.) How do you know I'm not your government?
2.) The point is, whether I am or not, I could be, or there are people
just like me in gov't. Do you bl
On 1/26/06, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> how easy is it to strongarm windows logon?
> i know they can flash the bios, i know they can turn it on...
> do you not have a password required for login?
I had the fingerprint required for login or a pretty strong password
just to turn it on. I bet
how easy is it to strongarm windows logon?
i know they can flash the bios, i know they can turn it on...
do you not have a password required for login?
if so, the likelihood is the bag will be discarded along with the laptop
probably maliciously as it will be worthless to them. or they will attemp
While in a frickin company bowling party, my laptop and bag was stolen
out of my truck. It's a pisser that I just finished configuring it
today with all the information from my old laptop and the fact that I
had already zapped my old laptop. The big thing that's really got my
blood boiling is tha
OK, so by that, the President can order anything done with the military
he wants.
Congress can declare war, or not.
> -Original Message-
> From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 9:06 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Sen. Kennedy agrees
>
> Come on m
Come on man, separation of powers?
You are an American aren't you?
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 9:01 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Sen. Kennedy agrees
>
>
> But my point is that statement never specifi
But my point is that statement never specifically claims that the
President cannot do it.
It claims that to pass a law it must be done by congress.
> -Original Message-
> From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:47 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Se
The patriot act certainly fits.
As a matter of fact the Iraq war fits as well, because a lot of this topic
is about trust, and while I will follow his orders, a I must by law
{{{censored}}}
UCMJ is a bitch.
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROT
We're not tapping Iraqis, we're tapping al Qaeda. I think we're mixing
the Patriot Act and Iraq war into a discussion about wiretaps that
specifically target al Qaeda and associates and the war they declared
against us.
On 1/26/06, Loathe wrote:
> Yep, and had we used that as a premise for congres
Article I. - The Legislative Branch Note
Section 1 - The Legislature
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the
United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROT
On wikipedia I found this:
Although Congress never voted on a formal declaration of war, they did
authorize the President to instruct the commanders of armed vessels of
the United States to seize all vessels and goods of the Bay of Tripoli
"and also to cause to be done all such other acts of preca
Where does it say that?
> -Original Message-
> From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:41 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Sen. Kennedy agrees
>
> When the constitution expressly gives one branch of the government a
> power,
> it is denied to the ot
Right, I was asking for the declaration itself.
> -Original Message-
> From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:30 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Sen. Kennedy agrees
>
> Barbary pirates holmes.
>
> Tim
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: N
When the constitution expressly gives one branch of the government a power,
it is denied to the others.
Come on this is basic Jr. High shit.
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:33 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE
No, what Congressional Resolution. I looked for the actual law, but
never found one.
> -Original Message-
> From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:30 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Sen. Kennedy agrees
>
> Barbary pirates holmes.
>
> Tim
>
> > -
Yeah, I wish that was used too, but hey.
> -Original Message-
> From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:15 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Sen. Kennedy agrees
>
> Yep, and had we used that as a premise for congress declaring war I
could
> get fully
The war powers act was in itself a Declaration of War.
The Constitution doesn't say what a Declaration of War is, just that
congress is allowed to declare it.
It later mentions that individual states may not declare war. But makes
no mention of the President's authority on the subject.
It does s
3, a national emergency created by attack upon the US.
> -Original Message-
> From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 7:38 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Sen. Kennedy agrees
>
> Which one of those three occurred?
>
> Tim
i dont think so. someone has to stir the pot from
your side of the political spectrum.
tw
On 1/26/06, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Will that mean I can be voted out :)
>
>
> On 1/26/06, Ian Skinner wrote:
> > Eventually the list is supposed to become completely private.
> >
>
>
~~~
I didn't see in that article where the US formally declared war.
Also, there are NO rules for declaring war.
Article 1 Section 8 states that congress can declare war. No where is it
stated that somebody else cannot.
> -Original Message-
> From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> S
Barbary pirates holmes.
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:28 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Sen. Kennedy agrees
>
>
> Which declaration was that?
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Loathe [mailto:[
Which declaration was that?
> -Original Message-
> From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 6:33 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Sen. Kennedy agrees
>
> Actually we have formally declared war against pirates with no actual
> nation
> behind them once
There hasn't been a formal declaration of war sense WW2. Back then laws
were written differently, there wasn't as much crap in them like the
laws have today.
Shortly after the attacks of 9/11 Congress passed this law, and the
President signed it.
The War Powers Act was created to serve multiple f
Careful Tony, you've just possibly made yourself suspect, saying you
trust a foreign national over an American. Very suspicious.
Unfortunately there ls a long history of governments actively
suppressing groups because of private beliefs - wanting stuff like
equal rights for all, the right to live
He can tap your phone if a terrorist is calling you. He can tap your phone
if you are a terrorist calling another terrorist within the United States.
He should, and probably will, tap your phone if you are calling a terrorist
abroad. Bottom line is, don't call terrorists.
How many people are aff
same here. anything done under false pretenses sucks.
even more when its on the scale that this is.
a country of human tragedy. that will hopefully turn around.
but we are only lucky if it does. karma surely isnt on our side!
tony
On 1/26/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yep, and had we
Yep, and had we used that as a premise for congress declaring war I could
get fully behind it.
However we didn't.
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:06 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Sen. Kennedy agrees
>
>
>
When you get paid more for having the kids than you can with most jobs
in the area, especially if you have no education and training, what do
you expect.
larry
On 1/26/06, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> its entirely to easy to become a baby factory, sittin back watchin
> springer, boyfriend se
On 1/26/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm going to need to listen to you phone calls. It's for your safety.
you arent my government, im not a terrorist. nor do i support terrorists.
nor do i involve myself in the local fucking mosque.
> I'm going to need to read you mail. It's for
They shot at our aircraft when they were patrolling the no fly zone.
> -Original Message-
> From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 6:16 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Sen. Kennedy agrees
>
> Iraq attacked us when, Sam?
>
> Tim
>
~~
> RoMunn wrote:
> I don't like the invasion of privacy any more than the next guy, but it is a
> necessary tool of the
> government in the war effort.
>
So draw the line. Where do the President's powers and "necessary tools" stop?
Can he tap your phone because a terrorist was spotted with a sur
I mean, 9/11 was a big deal, it hurt. We needed to go to war over it. I
still don't feel that it was a national emergency.
Also the war powers resolution does not amend the constitution which says
this:
Section 8 - Powers of Congress
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and ma
3
On 1/26/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Which one of those three occurred?
>
> Tim
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 7:35 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Sen. Kennedy agrees
> >
> >
> > Besides Hamiltons
Which one of those three occurred?
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 7:35 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Sen. Kennedy agrees
>
>
> Besides Hamiltons claim there's the War Powers Resolution
>
> SEC. 2. (c)
> The constitu
Besides Hamiltons claim there's the War Powers Resolution
SEC. 2. (c)
The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to
introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into
situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly
indicated by the circumstances, a
WORD!
On 1/26/06, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> F-ing bureaucrats, the lot of you.
>
> The wiretaps are targeting phone calls where one of the parties is a
> suspected (or proven) terrorist overseas who is talking to someone in the
> U.S., presumably not to plan the next family get-to
its entirely to easy to become a baby factory, sittin back watchin
springer, boyfriend sells rock and herb and play xbox and drink 40's
i see it ALL THE FUCKING TIME, in l'il ole salisbury, yeah, li'l ole salisbury.
man there are some real big wastes of space and time and money here, i
hate to say
> Who would we declare war on exactly?
How about al Queda itself? A precedent has been set.
> Congress can only declare war on another state
Not true. and in fact there is a precedence for a "stateless"
declaration of war. The Barbary War in 1805.
http://hnn.us/articles/287.html
> The rules of
> Weegs wrote:
> i think the welfare plan in the USA should match the one in
> Italy. You can get it. You can get it for one year or so. You can
> get it for the kids you presently have. Anything more, or more
> kids and you are shit toasted.
>
That sounds sensible to me. People that are falli
Actually we have formally declared war against pirates with no actual nation
behind them once before.
Know your history nukka.
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 5:31 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Sen. Kennedy
Please re-read what I said:
"This is not a traditional war between states. This is an asymmetrical war
against non-state actors. Our rules of warfare need to adapt to the reality of
that situation if we intend to win this war."
Who would we declare war on exactly? Congress can only declare war
Iraq attacked us when, Sam?
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 5:52 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Sen. Kennedy agrees
>
>
> Wasn't it Hamilton that said if we are attacked we're already at war
> and it doesn't need to
If an officer is involved in a shooting who does the investigation the
neighborhood watch group? PTA?
On 1/26/06, Ian Skinner wrote:
> Yes he/she might. Officers have illegally shot people in the past and I am
> sure will do so in the future.
>
> So who is currently trying to make it the policy
Do you hide whenever you see an officer with a gun? You should because he might
decide to shoot you.
Sam
Yes he/she might. Officers have illegally shot people in the past and I am
sure will do so in the future.
So who is currently trying to make it the policy (if not the law) of the land
t
umm, I don't think I met the soldier that's bringing him in without his,
umm, "having tried to escape".
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 3:16 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Sen. Kennedy agrees
>
>
> well hopeful-fucki
Do you hide whenever you see an officer with a gun? You should because
he might decide to shoot you.
On 1/26/06, Gruss Gott wrote:
> > Weegs wrote:
> > THESE ARE PEOPLE DOING THIS FOUR OUR SAFETY!
> > Why cannot people get this through their heads?
> >
>
> I'm going to need to listen to you phone
You working at the NSA these days Sam?
You know where the taps are originating? Against whom?
I'll be honest I don't care where it starts. If there is a citizen on
either end of the line you need a warrant first.
Period.
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wasn't it Hamilton that said if we are attacked we're already at war
and it doesn't need to be declared?
Yes it was:
"The Congress shall have power to declare War;" the plain meaning of
which is that, it is the peculiar and exclusive province of Congress,
when the nation is at peace, to change th
> KG wrote:
> The real nub of the problem is that while you quote people saying
> "this is all we're doing", we simply don't trust them to not be lying.
>
> The line between protective intelligence gathering and fascist spying is
> trust.
>
It's also ironic that the same people who'd like to comb
> Weegs wrote:
> THESE ARE PEOPLE DOING THIS FOUR OUR SAFETY!
> Why cannot people get this through their heads?
>
I'm going to need to listen to you phone calls. It's for your safety.
I'm going to need to read you mail. It's for your safety.
I'm going to need to put a camera in your bedroom.
First off we only have their word on that. And their past behavior has
shown that their wrod is not worth anything. Yellow Cake Uranium in
Niger ring a bell? Al Queda connections with Hussein?
Given their past performance, I would not trust this administration to
say its daylight outside without c
Exactly. Especially when those sources have been shown to be
completely untrustworthy in the first place.
larry
On 1/26/06, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The real nub of the problem is that while you quote people saying
> "this is all we're doing", we simply don't trust them to not be
Werenotatwar..it'sneverbeendeclared..
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