Re: comments?

> RoMinn wrote: > There is a solution, of course, as some here have already noted, and it is > the strategy that worked so well in WWII. The worked for one reason: the people that were bombed lost faith and support in their government. In this case we're not fighting a government, we're fighting

RE: google is scary

I agree, of course a large number of people jumped at gmail as soon as they could. Gmail invites were selling on eBay. > -Original Message- > From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 9:15 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: google is scary > > My po

RE: speaking of attack ads

Well, it can be, however it is much easier to move with baby steps than in major changes with Republicans. Look at John McCain and Rudy Juliani. They have views that differ from the major platform on several issues, however they are generally accepted. > -Original Message- > From: Dana [m

Re: google is scary

On 7/31/06, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Most of my point is that there is little difference between what google is > doing and what the government is doing. My point is that there is little difference between what Google is doing and what just about every other large internet company

Re: speaking of attack ads

considering the ineptitude of the Democrats -- locally at least -- you might be right. But isn't party loyalty a really big thing with Republicans? In other words, I dunno if they are even running anyone against this woman, and wouldn't any hypothetical Republican who was elected have to deal with

RE: speaking of attack ads

You know, I think people would be better off running moderate republicans against conservative ones in primaries as opposed to supporting democratic candidates. >From a strategy perspective atleast. > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006

RE: google is scary

Most of my point is that there is little difference between what google is doing and what the government is doing. In part because google can hand over the contents of the DB, which includes information including your IP address. Wiretapping and traffic capturing aside, a company that keeps every

Re: Firewall Recommendation

I considered smoothwall as well before I went with m0n0wall. Either one should be fine, IMHO. On 7/31/06, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What about a linux install that is basically a dedicated appliance? > > Checkout www.smoothwall.org > > I have an IBM P75 with a 2 gig drive and thr

Re: comments?

I agree we are seeing the failure of the UN. However, I disagree with your solution. I think we let the UN handle it. If the UN fails then more die, as long as it isn't Americans or our Allies, I no longer care. Maybe at some point if enough folks die the UN will grow the balls to force solut

Re: Security Council extends UNIFIL mandate until 31 August 2006

More evidence of the total failure of the UN in military conflicts. Things like the UNIFIL force make the very notion of a negotiated settlement through the UN a total farce. Nothing will be resolved until Hezbollah is wiped out as a military force. And since the UN and Lebanon are not doing squat

Re: speaking of attack ads

welp I am trying not to be totally apathetic. But the Democrat they are running is no better -- may disagree with George Bush but her stance on the last election, not to mention gay marriage, would preclude me from working FOR her. And I got my fill of the local Democrats on the Kerry campaign. I n

Re: speaking of attack ads

If you move to or live in a mostly Republican district, you really don't have much you can do if you don't agree with the current rep. If you really want to help make a change, volunteer to help out with one of the party offices. They are always looking for volunteers, it's good networking, and af

Re: comments?

Sorry, I'm jumping in late here. What we are seeing is the failure of the post-WWII system that was put in place to prevent another world war. Specifically, we are seeing the total failure of the United Nations to be used successfully to resolve any dispute anywhere in the world. Iran doesn't want

Re: Finally!

aha -- yes the post I was having trouble with had a huge url... On 7/31/06, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry to those who were having problems posting. There was an old spam rule > that said that any text string of 20 or more characters was spam and should > be blocked. I've r

Finally!

Sorry to those who were having problems posting. There was an old spam rule that said that any text string of 20 or more characters was spam and should be blocked. I've removed it and posts should have no problem going through. That last post from me was sent like 6 times till I had the problem

Security Council extends UNIFIL mandate until 31 August 2006

You know, it's things like this that makes me think that Kofi hates Israel to the point of sacrificing living people for a photo op and denunciation. Despite having no power to either stop the current war nor to even defend themselves, the UNIFIL has been extended another month. I wonder if Kofi

Re: speaking of attack ads

mickey mouse would be better... see below. In favor of everything except lobbyist accountability, that's our Heather... House Votes Wilson (R) voted Passed Estate Tax and Extension of Tax Relief Act 07/29/2006 Y Passed Pension Protection Act 07/28/2006 Y Passed Better Health Information System Act

Re: speaking of attack ads

vote Republican! ;-) Or vote your conscience, either way. From what you are saying, that probably means voting a write-in or something like that. On 7/31/06, Dana wrote: > > my fight district is shaping up as the site of a really ugly fight -- > Halliburton Heather, with whom I have yet to agree

Re: Firewall Recommendation

I use m0n0wall. Very nice package, free, all Web-based admin. Very cool. http://m0n0.ch/wall/ You can install it on anything. I use it with a net4801 appliance device from Soekris Engineering: www.soekris.com It is a tiny little box that uses a CF-card as the boot device. It has WAN, LAN, and D

Re: R.I.P Spike

>This morning we had to put one of our ferrets down. Little Spike had acute >pancreatic cancer accompanied by lymphoma. We came home from Hershey park to >find him emaciated and barely responsive, when we took him to the emergency >vet this morning, his blood sugar barely registered, the vet said t

Re: google is scary

I understand where you are coming from, but if you are really that conserned about privacy of data, you may want to rethink using the internet at all. Google's gathering of information is not new, isn't unique on the internet, and is far from the most worrysome data privacy issue out there. At le

Re: Went to my First Baseball Game

Jim Davis wrote: > Friday's home game for our local AAA Baseball team (the Scranton-Wilke Barre > Red Barons). > > It was fun. Only about 7,000 fans showed up to the 25,000 seat stadium: we Wow, that is a huge stadium for a AAA team. The Durham Bulls stadium only seats about 10,000 (the Bulls

RE: R.I.P Spike

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RE: R.I.P Spike

Yeah, he was the dark eyed white. The one that had the growth on his tail removed. Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer/Administrator GlobalNet Services, Inc. www.gnsi.com 301-770-9610 x358 (Voice) 301-770-9611 (Fax) The information contained in this message may be privileged, conf

Re: google is scary

depends on the setup. AOL had so many procedures in place it was hard to tech anythng at all. The place I was thinking of simply had us as administrators on a server where the customers were users. One of the big things we did was go in an delete the emails when someone's account was jammed up beca

RE: google is scary

You are probably right, they probably don't have a little man in an office reading the email. They have data mining systems reading it, cataloging it, and doing other things with it. When I was at an ISP we couldn't read other users email, it was strictly forbidden, and the security was setup as s

Re: google is scary

> But you know what, other people's email is extremely boring. Except when it is an e-mail of terror! ! _ ! -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| In

Re: google is scary

Passport article from 2001 http://www.pcworld.com/article/57844-1/article.html On 7/31/06, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > MS caught a lot of crap for it when they talked about doing it years ago > > with > > Hotmail > > because MS didn't clearly state what the data that was being c

Re: google is scary

well, I don;t think they have a little man out there in an office reading all the email. They might read this thread though, as it's feedback, really. And I am ok with that. When I worked at isps I could read any email I wanted to read. But you know what, other people's email is extremely boring.

Re: google is scary

> MS caught a lot of crap for it when they talked about doing it years ago with > Hotmail because MS didn't clearly state what the data that was being collected was going to be used for. > But that was MS, they are big brother, they are bad. yes. MS also had a track record at that time of colle

Re: Firewall Recommendation

mm, the vlans would come into it if you had an accounting department and a marketing department. In the design I am doing for a school internet access for the children clearly has different security and access concerns than for the staff. I think for what you are describing vlans are not a concern.

RE: google is scary

That is part of the problem, but the other part is that google can use the information in that email, and the response for things within google. They can track that, and keep stats on how many times you use a particular phrase. It isn't just the simple display of targeted ads that I have a problem

RE: google is scary

I don't use gmail. I have gotten to a point where I don't really like google at all. I'm not worried about email itself, when it comes to identity, if I were, I wouldn't host my own server with a DNS name with publicly available information. In google's case they come out and say they are going to

Re: google is scary

Al Gore has earned over $50 million as an advisor for Google. He might use that money to become president. I'm sure if a republican had such strong ties to Google it would be considered evil. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Qu

speaking of attack ads

my fight district is shaping up as the site of a really ugly fight -- Halliburton Heather, with whom I have yet to agree on almost ANYTHING, who is the incumbent. The Democrats are running the current New Mexico Secretary of State, who put the kibosh on gay marriage,saying that marriage was clearly

RE: google is scary

That policy applies to its members, not people sending email to its members. But it is pretty clear that they produce ads based on the content of the email, the IP address of the sender. But at the same time they also use that information in regard to other gmail or google services. So they coul

RE: Firewall Recommendation

I do some lite hosting - one/two page sites that I have done for friends and family plus my own websites. ]Duane -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 1:49 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Firewall Recommendation um, you can get a Cisco PIX

Re: google is scary

I guess I really don't see the problem. Yes, personal things get discussed in email, but still. I think where you are coming from, is that (to use a purely hypothetical situation) if you write to your sister saying that your mom is starting to lose it and you may need to look for a home that serves

RE: google is scary

And you opted into gmail as well. You and I both know that it's a free service, and it has an excellent amount of storage. If you are so worried about your identity and what's in your email you shouldn't be using email even. Email is not a secure means of communication, period. Seriously man, a

Re: google is scary

On 7/31/06, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In this list yes, however if I send something to you privately to your gmail > account, I don't know what gmail does with the info in it. Sure you do - it's in the privacy policy. They are collecting data, just like doubleclick does on other s

RE: google is scary

I'm not talking about the list. I'm talking about a private email between me and somebody using gmail, or any other service that does the same thing. Even if you do everything through the website with random hotmail accounts your IP is still recorded, and logged. > -Original Message- > Fr

RE: google is scary

You are the author, Michael is the publisher, it's a voluntary membership, if you don't like it you can leave. I'm not saying you should, or I want you to, I'm saying it's optional. Hell you could do everything through the website with some random hotmail address and "THEY" wouldn't be able to tr

RE: google is scary

The publisher, has control over the ads. I'm the publisher of this email, however I have no control over what ads are shown. The Super Bowl, The NFL, and the network contracted with the air the Super Bowl have the ability to select which ads display. > -Original Message- > From: Dana [ma

DC Area

Hey kids, I know there are a bunch of us on here, so I figured I would start here then head over to CF-Jobs. My company just got a new contract with the Marine Corps and we have an immediate need for one SENIOR LEVEL ColdFusion developer. Why the caps on senior level? Well, I have been part of a

Re: google is scary

the advertiser chooses his keywords. I don't see this as a lot different than ads for beer at the superbowl and ads for tampax on Oprah... Dana On 7/31/06, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I care because ads are being generated based on what I say, that I can't > see, and can't change

RE: google is scary

I care because ads are being generated based on what I say, that I can't see, and can't change, and can't opt out of. The commercials I see on TV aren't based on what you are watching, or more to the point aren't based on what you are saying to me on the phone while I'm watching TV. TV, radio, an

Re: google is scary

ok so if you don't see the ads what do you care? I don't worry about the commercials you see on TV... >Also, in this case, I would see the ads. You would, I'm not the one using >gmail. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarte

Re: google is scary

interesting, ads for this thread are for h2g2 gear and also for sites about panic attacks. LOL. On 7/31/06, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > what if it is something you are looking for? Also, nobody is making you > click the link or even pay any attention to it. Contrast this with > television.

RE: google is scary

But somebody else is paying, and is being told how often that impression came up, so stats are being kept on the words used. Also, in this case, I would see the ads. You would, I'm not the one using gmail. > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 31

RE: R.I.P Spike

My condolences :( ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarte

Re: google is scary

what if it is something you are looking for? Also, nobody is making you click the link or even pay any attention to it. Contrast this with television. On 7/31/06, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I do, basically google is searching my writing for keywords and trying to > sell you someth

RE: google is scary

I do, basically google is searching my writing for keywords and trying to sell you something based on that. > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 1:27 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: google is scary > > it possibly displays ads base

Re: google is scary

it possibly displays ads based on the content. I don't find that so horrible. On 7/31/06, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In this list yes, however if I send something to you privately to your > gmail > account, I don't know what gmail does with the info in it. > > > -Original Mess

Re: comments?

Neither is Belfast... but it's at peace kinda On 7/31/06, loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The caste comment was based more on the fact that the government of India > isn't anything to be held up as an example for anything good. The huge > amount of sectarian violence shows that they fai

Re: (Admin) List Status

Mike the address I have for you just failed, and I did have something I wanted to show you about this. Can you drop me a line so I know where to send it? thanks Dana > I've done a major redesign of the House of Fusion user interface as > well as the backend system. Posting through the archives

RE: google is scary

In this list yes, however if I send something to you privately to your gmail account, I don't know what gmail does with the info in it. > -Original Message- > From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:20 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: google i

RE: R.I.P Spike

Ah shit man, this sucks. Was he one of ours? If so, I'll have to call Chrissie. I'm sorry man, I know how hard that can be. > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:16 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: R.I.P Spike > > This morn

RE: comments?

The caste comment was based more on the fact that the government of India isn't anything to be held up as an example for anything good. The huge amount of sectarian violence shows that they failed at peaceful coexistence with the Muslims, and the caste system, and the murders and rapes and thefts

Re: comments?

And you think Israel has any chance in a PR war? As I said, look at Qana and the total lack of facts on the ground. Everyone is willing to jump first and only later will the facts be examined but it'll be too late by then. Same thing happened with the fake report of a massacre at Jennin and on a

Re: (Admin) List Status

I like the part where you can now sign in on the same page if you want to post. Nice improvement. > I've done a major redesign of the House of Fusion user interface as > well as the backend system. Posting through the archives should work > as long as your subscribed to the list in question. Th

Re: (Admin) List Status

I like the part where you can now sign in on the same page if you want to post. Nice improvement. > I've done a major redesign of the House of Fusion user interface as > well as the backend system. Posting through the archives should work > as long as your subscribed to the list in question. Th

Re: R.I.P Spike

I am really sorry to hear this, Scott. >This morning we had to put one of our ferrets down. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivere

RE: Went to my First Baseball Game

I used to train standardbreds, but loved the thoroughbred racing as well. I spent many a August weekend up there for the Saratoga thoroughbred meet. Awesome parties with the jockeys and trainers. Drinks at the cigar bar, walking around downtown at night, listening to music. AWESOME awesome town. C

Re: R.I.P Spike

Sorry to hear it - it's hard to put a pet down, but you made the right choice. On 7/31/06, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This morning we had to put one of our ferrets down. Little Spike had acute > pancreatic cancer accompanied by lymphoma. We came home from Hershey park to > find him

Re: R.I.P Spike

> This morning we had to put one of our ferrets down. :-( Sorry. -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly U

Re: comments?

really? What is your point then? I read it as "India is not a good example of peaceful co-existence with Muslims because it has sectarian violence, not to mention a caste system." Since I don't know enough about the place to dispute reason one -- though I suspect there is something wrong with that

Re: Firewall Recommendation

um, you can get a Cisco PIX 506E for less than that. Is this for home use? Cause the thing I am looking at with this is whether there is enough vlan support, and the next box up is more than a grand. But for your home you probably don't care about vlans. It does do NAT. hope that helps Dana On

RE: comments?

No, it's Indian/Hindu, and the majority of Indians still apply it to the Muslims even though it has nothing to do with them. You completely missed my point. > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:26 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re:

Re: fun with facial recognition tech - who do YOU look like?

hehe On 7/31/06, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > obviously not the better looking one. :) > > On 7/31/06, Wayne Putterill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Which head? > > > > On 7/27/06, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Ricky Martin! > > > > > > Livin La Vida

Re: comments?

the caste system is not a Muslim invention. >how can you even think of using India as a god example. There is sectarian violence there all the time. They have been having a not so cold war with Pakistan for years, and they are guilty of some of the worst horrors our modern world has seen. Not t

Re: google is scary

Of course, it's an open email list, archived in fifty places (way more than just Gmail). With that full knowledge, you are voluntarily participating. -Cameron On 7/31/06, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well sorta, they can collect data about me even if I don't use it, for > instance t

Re: Went to my First Baseball Game

Well, I just bet on the horses. Some might consider this a sport lol. I live in Saratoga Springs, NY and we have a harness and thoroughbred racing on two tracks about 1/8th of a mile from each other... Last weekend was off the hook! I hate the traffic in the summer but going out on the town is just

R.I.P Spike

This morning we had to put one of our ferrets down. Little Spike had acute pancreatic cancer accompanied by lymphoma. We came home from Hershey park to find him emaciated and barely responsive, when we took him to the emergency vet this morning, his blood sugar barely registered, the vet said that

Re: comments?

> tBone wrote: > India is number 3 in the Muslim world after Indonesia and Pakistan. > Also, how can you even think of using India as a god example. I thought they were #1 in populace. Either way they've got a lot of Muslims and are moving in the right direction. It's not about perfection, it's

RE: comments?

Did my other thread about the shooting in Seattle make it to the list yet? GG, normally you and I are right on the same page man, but seriously, this is BS. I. Can't even argue about this shit anymore. Fuck it, I'm reenlisting. > -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL P

Re: comments?

> Dino wrote: > But lets try it your way. Oh, but we can't because Israel already tried it > your way But they haven't. The misunderstanding is that this is a PR war, not a physical war. The number one rule of fighting is that you don't bring a gun to a media fight. And if someone is aggressiv

Re: I finally landed a job interview

Well, then, Happy Birthday to you! Glad to see you're back on your feet. Russel Madere wrote: > I interviewed Friday. What a thing to do on my birthday. I think I gaave > myself a great present. > > The interview itself was a standard one about leadership/management > principles. Then I too

Re: google is scary

earth was greater then deep thought. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauth

RE: I finally landed a job interview

Congrats Russel!! Keeping fingers crossed for you :) And happy birthday! :) Cheers, Erika ##| -Original Message- ##| From: Russel Madere ##| ##| I interviewed Friday. What a thing to do on my birthday. ##| I think I gaave myself a great present. ~~~

Re: I finally landed a job interview

I interviewed Friday. What a thing to do on my birthday. I think I gaave myself a great present. The interview itself was a standard one about leadership/management principles. Then I took a technical test (HTML, SQL and VB). I blew the VB "write a function" part, but I did do VBScript. H

RE: Went to my First Baseball Game

What kind of horse racing? -- ##| -Original Message- ##| From: Casey Dougall ##| ##| For the rest of the summer, horse racing is the ##| only sport I need! ~| In

Re: fun with facial recognition tech - who do YOU look like?

obviously not the better looking one. :) On 7/31/06, Wayne Putterill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Which head? > > On 7/27/06, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ricky Martin! > > > > Livin La Vida Loca! > > > > > > > ~

Re: fun with facial recognition tech - who do YOU look like?

Which head? On 7/27/06, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ricky Martin! > > Livin La Vida Loca! > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information

RE: comments?

India is number 3 in the Muslim world after Indonesia and Pakistan. Also, how can you even think of using India as a god example. There is sectarian violence there all the time. They have been having a not so cold war with Pakistan for years, and they are guilty of some of the worst horrors our

Re: (Admin) List Status

Any time. If you come across any errors or things you want changed, please let me know. >> Mike wrote: >> I've done a major redesign of the House of Fusion user interface > >Thanks again Mike! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authorit

Re: comments?

Israel's reaction was to 6 years of missiles, kidnappings, invasions (with the UN watching) and more. One could argue that the kidnappings were the straw that broke the camels back. But lets try it your way. Oh, but we can't because Israel already tried it your way more than once and the result

Re: comments?

> Dino wrote: > So what should they do instead? Just die? I understand the question, but the Israeli reaction wasn't to a huge ramp up in missiles, it was to the capture of 2 soldiers - point being that Israel wasn't being invaded, just provoked and they took the bait. Israel should have appealed

Re: (Admin) List Status

> Mike wrote: > I've done a major redesign of the House of Fusion user interface Thanks again Mike! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers,

(Admin) List Status

I've done a major redesign of the House of Fusion user interface as well as the backend system. Posting through the archives should work as long as your subscribed to the list in question. The same goes for posting by email. If there is a problem, you will get an error message as long as your em

RE: Firewall Recommendation

What about a linux install that is basically a dedicated appliance? Checkout www.smoothwall.org I have an IBM P75 with a 2 gig drive and three nics, don't have to fool with the linux base if you don't want to, basically it is an ISO with an installer that will do all the work for you. > -Or

Firewall Recommendation

Hi All, I need to replace my current firewall. It is tired and not as secure or fast as it should be. Can anyone recommend a decent firewall/router box that can be had for less than a grand? I need it to support NAT. I'd like something similar to this -http://www.sonicwall.com/products/pro1260.ht

RE: google is scary

Well sorta, they can collect data about me even if I don't use it, for instance this email is being sent into gmail. > -Original Message- > From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:11 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: google is scary > > Using

Re: google is scary

Some time ago a group of hyper-intelligent pan dimensional beingsdecided to finally answer the great question of Life, The Universe and Everything. To this end they built an incred