Re: Just Wow.

2007-10-16 Thread Robert Munn
Energy is out of this world right now. Constellation Energy Group (CEG) is my parents' long term hold. It has gone from $24 to almost $90 in five plus years. On 10/16/07, Gruss wrote: > > > Energy has been a great sector too - we own Devon Energy (DVN) which > has rocked over the last 7 years. >

Re: Way cool wind energy idea

2007-10-16 Thread Robert Munn
You have to go see the wind farm in the pass along I-10 from Los Angeles to Palm Springs. Truly impressive. Downright scary, actually, when you see how big the biggest turbines are. On 10/16/07, Jerry J wrote: > > How cool is that picture? > > I pass one installed and turning every time I take the

Re: Way cool wind energy idea

2007-10-16 Thread Robert Munn
That is an extremely cool idea, indeed. Cheap and simple to manufacture. Capable of producing small but consistent power from even a gentle breeze. Intriguing solution for small scale generation in poor countries. One thing I especially like is the low cost of components. Anything worth more than $

Re: silly greenpeace bagging on apple

2007-10-16 Thread Robert Munn
hehe, i thought someone might get a dig in there... no, actually, i don't think the apple guys are that kind of cultish, although it would be interesting to find out what percentage of Scientologists are Apple fans (not iPod/iPhone, actual Mac users). On 10/16/07, Sam wrote: > > In a Scientology

Re: Al Gore wins the Nobel Peace Prize.

2007-10-16 Thread Robert Munn
The word is isolationist, not conservative. Under your test, Clinton and Bush are both foreign policy liberals, but their policies are clearly very, very different. Does the label even mean anything, then? Doesn't look like it. On 10/16/07, Gruss wrote: > > > RoMunn wrote: > > * Foreign policy lib

Re: Can you hear me crying?

2007-10-16 Thread Robert Munn
bummer about the camera, but that's a good price. i saw a d80 body kit on ecost.com for over $800, and they are usually very price competitive. On 10/16/07, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > well, I went ahead and faced my fears head on and bought one off of > ebay. D80 body for $7

Re: Can you hear me crying?

2007-10-16 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
well, I went ahead and faced my fears head on and bought one off of ebay. D80 body for $799. I think the hives are starting. On 10/15/07, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heh. You would have had a total meltdown then on my last eBay purchase. > $4500.00 for a quad that spanked the previ

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Chesty Puller
Actually, every single frame can be viewed either way. The trick to this is that you can't tell the right leg from the left leg in any case. The full-on torso view may be viewed so that you either percieve the front of the girl - face forward and belly button directly in front- or you perceiv

Re: Just Wow.

2007-10-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> WillBo wrote: > +1 on the Vanguard Health Fund Recommendation... I've been considering > moving more of Vanguard REIT fund investments to it. > With so much of the American economy spent on healthcare *now* combined with an aging population I can't see how you can go wrong unless Hillary tries s

Working in San Francisco

2007-10-16 Thread Maureen
If anyone on the list is interested, we are looking for several senior level Cold Fusion contractors for a long term project in San Francisco. Contact me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone who replies onlist is automatically disqualified. Maur ~

Re: Just Wow.

2007-10-16 Thread William Bowen
> BTW, you number reminds me that one of our mutual funds, Vanguards > Health Fund (VGHCX) has made 14% over that period. It's a great stock > and has been consistent year in and out. +1 on the Vanguard Health Fund Recommendation... I've been considering moving more of Vanguard REIT fund investm

Re: Way cool wind energy idea

2007-10-16 Thread Casey Dougall
On 10/16/07, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I only posted the video earlier, now I found the full article. It has > been put in to place on a house-by-house basis in Haiti. > > http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/4224763.html?series=37 Ok, now this gets even b

Re: Way cool wind energy idea

2007-10-16 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
I only posted the video earlier, now I found the full article. It has been put in to place on a house-by-house basis in Haiti. http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/4224763.html?series=37 It is *not* a large-scale application in terms of generation. They are powering "radios, cloc

Re: Way cool wind energy idea

2007-10-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> Adam wrote: > * Noise level at any size big enough to generate anything of importance > would be unbearable. > > * Massively inefficient conversion of work to energy. > > * Very high breakage rate due to stress and strain (think paper clip). > > * Can't stand up to anything more than a relatively

Re: Way cool wind energy idea

2007-10-16 Thread Jerry Johnson
How cool is that picture? I pass one installed and turning every time I take the T into Boston http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/story?id=30153 My personal favorite for aesthetics are the turbines that sit flat, and get mounted on the roof crest of residential houses. Picture a paper

Re: Way cool wind energy idea

2007-10-16 Thread Casey Dougall
On 10/16/07, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > True, except I love this little turbine. All the power a house needs, > small footprint. > > http://helixwind.com/en/media.php?categoryID=2# > 71.15592.5 > I love it, way better than the turbine blades I passed on the highway one day... I c

Re: Al Gore wins the Nobel Peace Prize.

2007-10-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > foreign policy liberal? dude you made that up. Uh, nope, I learned in Poli Sci class in college unless I'm forgetting or "mis-remembering": * Foreign policy liberals believe in active intervention in foreign politics. Invading Iraq would be an extreme example, but Bush's "democ

Re: Just Wow.

2007-10-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > the dollar is going to continue to fall. if the european central bank cuts > rates to stay with the fed, it might help, but no one wants us currency, and > why would they? those twin ticking timebombs of medicare and social security > are being totally ignored by the political est

Re: The Other Shoe Dropping?

2007-10-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > I saw the lowering of the Fed rates as a green light to the mortgage > institutes to take the chance. > Why? ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government.

Re: Just Wow.

2007-10-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Hmmm, last year when you were telling everyone to buy Renminbi you > said you sold your Euros many years ago. > > Just wondering... > I sold the Euros I had invested in currency arbitrage, but we've always had our "feck you money" in multiple currencies. Some of it is truly cash i

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Bruce Sorge
Nope. He is not in it. Here is the cast: http://alpha.cbs.com/primetime/big_bang_theory/ Larry Lyons wrote: > Nope I don't even watch TV. But my time in grad school was heavily into > neuropsych - not much choice if you were doing work in cognition and > perception.. > Anyhow is there's a guy

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Larry Lyons
> Hey Larry, are you in that new TV show, Big Bang? I swear your comment > > is exactly what one of the brains in the show would say. :)~ > Nope I don't even watch TV. But my time in grad school was heavily into neuropsych - not much choice if you were doing work in cognition and perception..

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Bruce Sorge
Hey Larry, are you in that new TV show, Big Bang? I swear your comment is exactly what one of the brains in the show would say. :)~ Larry Lyons wrote: Right vs left brained is a gross over simplification of some dubious 70's research. It never took into account handedness, profession etc. Mos

Re: Way cool wind energy idea

2007-10-16 Thread Ben Doom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Using the same 'footprint' that a typical turbine takes up, what would > be the +/- of wind power produced? Is it not only more scalable, but > also more effective? It is estimated that it will be more efficient, yes. > Another pondering... Does it produce more pow

RE: Way cool wind energy idea

2007-10-16 Thread Adam Churvis
> eg. have a fan pointing at the device and start rotating the > propeller manually until the device can power the fan, would the device > be able to push more power than would be necessary to power the fan? --- That would violate the Law of Conservation of Energy, so it is impossible. Respec

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Larry Lyons
>> Clock wise for me > >Not sure how but I can get it to switch. Simple, just follow these steps exactly. Take a hammer and hit yourself really really hard on the left side of your head 30 or 40 times. If you survive you'll definately be right brained after that. Right vs left brained is a gros

RE: Way cool wind energy idea

2007-10-16 Thread Adam Churvis
I'm sorry to burst people's bubbles, because it is certainly a cool desktop experiment, but don't count on this ever generating an appreciable amount of commercially usable power. The mechanics are either insufficient or all wrong just about any way you slice it. Gotta run and get Mike from schoo

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Ben Doom
burninate() is polymorphic, depending on the fuel provided. --BenD Michael Dinowitz wrote: > but does a dragon implement butane? > > On 10/16/07, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Michael Dinowitz wrote: >>> thinking, I'm mainly left brained. I'm so left brained that I still have >>> troubl

Re: Just Wow.

2007-10-16 Thread Sam
Hmmm, last year when you were telling everyone to buy Renminbi you said you sold your Euros many years ago. Just wondering... On 10/16/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Robert wrote: > > the 80's, however, we'll only climb for so long before we come tumbling back > > down again. > >

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Ben Doom
Shouldn't that interface be UFlammable? It acts on external objects, after all --BenD Deanna Schneider wrote: > On 10/16/07, Michael Dinowitz wrote: >> See, that's the problem. Trying to model processes on 'real world' objects. >> Why not just model them on the processes? what does the sca

Re: Way cool wind energy idea

2007-10-16 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Another pondering... Does it produce more power than it would take > for a fan to produce the effect? > > eg. have a fan pointing at the device and start rotating the > propeller manually until the device can power the fan, would the device > be able to push more power than would be necessary

Re: Way cool wind energy idea

2007-10-16 Thread Jerry Johnson
True, except I love this little turbine. All the power a house needs, small footprint. http://helixwind.com/en/media.php?categoryID=2# On 10/16/07, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The idea is that instead of having a prop-based wind turbine, you can > use a vibrating filament wi

Re: Way cool wind energy idea

2007-10-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I wonder... Using the same 'footprint' that a typical turbine takes up, what would be the +/- of wind power produced? Is it not only more scalable, but also more effective? Another pondering... Does it produce more power than it would take for a fan to produce the effect? eg. have a fan p

Re: The Other Shoe Dropping?

2007-10-16 Thread William Bowen
Not a week goes by (sometimes not even a day it seems) that I don't have a notice from my current mortgage lender (either by phone, mail or e-mail) that essentially calls me an idiot for opting for a fixed rate mortgage when i refinanced in June 06. They offer ARMs on really ridiculously low rates

Re: Way cool wind energy idea

2007-10-16 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
The idea is that instead of having a prop-based wind turbine, you can use a vibrating filament with a magnet on one end moving between two coils to produce electricity. You could have an array of these in much less space than is needed by the turbine concept. Hatton On 10/16/07, Ian Skinner <[EM

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Ben Doom
True. --BenD Deanna Schneider wrote: > On 10/16/07, Ben Doom wrote: >> Michael Dinowitz wrote: >>> thinking, I'm mainly left brained. I'm so left brained that I still have >>> trouble understanding inheritance explained with animals (fantasy based) >>> rather than concrete examples (reality base

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Tony
yes, i dip out sometimes... and go left... oddly enough i always thought i was a left brainer anyway, but i only sometimes as a fluke see it ccw, i consistently see it cw tw On 10/16/07, Deanna Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You do realize that's an extremely left-brained thing to do, don

Re: Way cool wind energy idea

2007-10-16 Thread Ian Skinner
C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1214137061?bctid=1233395616 > > Very cool idea! I don't get it, how would using giant electric fans to power a few lcd's, a clock and maybe a radio help? :-) I don't have audio on this computer so I don't really know what

Re: Way cool wind energy idea

2007-10-16 Thread Deanna Schneider
Whoa - that is super way cool. I want to go out and build one right now. On 10/16/07, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1214137061?bctid=1233395616 > > Very cool idea! > ~| Enterprise we

Re: silly greenpeace bagging on apple

2007-10-16 Thread Sam
In a Scientology kind of way? On 10/16/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not a big fan of Apple, but this is just silly: > > http://www.edn.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA6491623 > > Greenpeace says the iPhone contains hazardous materials. Duh! Every computer > on the plan

Re: The Other Shoe Dropping?

2007-10-16 Thread Sam
I saw the lowering of the Fed rates as a green light to the mortgage institutes to take the chance. On 10/16/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > Wasn't that Greenspan's doing? Lowering rates to ridicules levels and > > then bringing them up too fast? > > No, it's a classi

RE: Way cool wind energy idea

2007-10-16 Thread Scott Stewart
That is cool..but, ya gotta run it into a battery, for those non windy days -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: C. Hatton Hum

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Tony
yup, wow. just plain WoW tw On 10/16/07, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ACTUALLY!!! > > > > at frame 24, there is a WEIRD switch of her legs, where you CANNOT > > tell which is which, your brain tries to draw the lines of her butt, > > and/or her > > leg to figure out which

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Deanna Schneider
You do realize that's an extremely left-brained thing to do, don't you? :P On 10/16/07, Tony wrote: > ACTUALLY!!! > > at frame 24, there is a WEIRD switch of her legs, where you CANNOT > tell which is which, your brain tries to draw the lines of her butt, and/or > her > leg to figure out which

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> ACTUALLY!!! > > at frame 24, there is a WEIRD switch of her legs, where you CANNOT > tell which is which, your brain tries to draw the lines of her butt, and/or > her > leg to figure out which one is the leading leg. if you look at all frames > up to frame 24, its her RIGHT leg, that swings in

silly greenpeace bagging on apple

2007-10-16 Thread Robert Munn
I'm not a big fan of Apple, but this is just silly: http://www.edn.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA6491623 Greenpeace says the iPhone contains hazardous materials. Duh! Every computer on the planet contains hazardous materials. They single out a couple of particular things, but come on,

Way cool wind energy idea

2007-10-16 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1214137061?bctid=1233395616 Very cool idea! ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.co

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Tony
ACTUALLY!!! at frame 24, there is a WEIRD switch of her legs, where you CANNOT tell which is which, your brain tries to draw the lines of her butt, and/or her leg to figure out which one is the leading leg. if you look at all frames up to frame 24, its her RIGHT leg, that swings in a clockwise d

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't think it's your eyes, I think the dancer actually does change directions. -Original Message -From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Date: Oct 16, 2007 11:10 -To: "CF-Community" -Subj: Re: Which do you see? - -Best ever exchange on this topic. - -(By the way, I can get it to switch if I read th

Re: The Other Shoe Dropping?

2007-10-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Wasn't that Greenspan's doing? Lowering rates to ridicules levels and > then bringing them up too fast? No, it's a classic example of a market failure; the exact sort of thing the government SHOULD have its hands in. Dana frequently references "externalities" which are costs that

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Deanna Schneider
On 10/16/07, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > See, that's the problem. Trying to model processes on 'real world' objects. > Why not just model them on the processes? what does the scale color property > have to do with its destructive capability? > > > > > No no no. Reptile is the base class for awesome

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Todd
A sea monster that manages to con you out of tree-fitty - Original Message - From: "Deanna Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 2:12 PM Subject: Re: Which do you see? > No no no. Reptile is the base class for awesome. Lizard extends > reptil

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Tony
btw, ive deconstructed her in fireworks, and she does IN FACT turn clockwise, i dont care what ANYONE says. so, the people who see it WRONGLY are just weird :) hahahah me On 10/16/07, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > See, that's the problem. Trying to model processes on 'real world'

Re: Al Gore wins the Nobel Peace Prize.

2007-10-16 Thread Robert Munn
foreign policy liberal? dude you made that up. the distinctions in foreign policy are threefold: 1. muscularity - hawks want to project a strong us military as a deterrent to potential adversaries - doves want to project a peaceful, conciliatory foreign policy that does not threaten other

Re: Just Wow.

2007-10-16 Thread Robert Munn
the dollar is going to continue to fall. if the european central bank cuts rates to stay with the fed, it might help, but no one wants us currency, and why would they? those twin ticking timebombs of medicare and social security are being totally ignored by the political establishment. us household

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Michael Dinowitz
See, that's the problem. Trying to model processes on 'real world' objects. Why not just model them on the processes? what does the scale color property have to do with its destructive capability? On 10/16/07, Deanna Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 10/16/07, Ben Doom wrote: > > Michae

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Tony
a polliwog! On 10/16/07, Deanna Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/16/07, Ben Doom wrote: > > Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > > thinking, I'm mainly left brained. I'm so left brained that I still have > > > trouble understanding inheritance explained with animals (fantasy based) > > > rathe

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Crow T. Robot
wow - weird, I just went to finally shut down that tab, and when i popped it open, i saw clockwise. as soon as i realized it, my brain somehow switched on me and i went back to counter! On 10/16/07, Deanna Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 10/16/07, Ben Doom wrote: > > Michael Dinowitz

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Michael Dinowitz
but does a dragon implement butane? On 10/16/07, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > thinking, I'm mainly left brained. I'm so left brained that I still have > > trouble understanding inheritance explained with animals (fantasy based) > > rather than concrete exampl

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Ian Skinner
- what's more awesome than a sea monster. Spinning, nude silhouette to sea monster. This list can still be fun ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Deanna Schneider
On 10/16/07, Ben Doom wrote: > Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > thinking, I'm mainly left brained. I'm so left brained that I still have > > trouble understanding inheritance explained with animals (fantasy based) > > rather than concrete examples (reality based). > > But...but... > > Clearly, Dragon e

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Ben Doom
Michael Dinowitz wrote: > thinking, I'm mainly left brained. I'm so left brained that I still have > trouble understanding inheritance explained with animals (fantasy based) > rather than concrete examples (reality based). But...but... Clearly, Dragon extends Dinosaur! Dinosaur extends lizard.

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Deanna Schneider
Best ever exchange on this topic. (By the way, I can get it to switch if I read the words and let myself catch it out of the corner of my eye.) On 10/16/07, Crow T. Robot wrote: > Charlie, your observations prove that you think with neither your left OR > right brains. In fact, you seem to use

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Todd
I can get it to switch pretty much at will. It also switches for me at random, especially when I am not paying attention. This explains some things for me. On a side note, I eat, drink and write with my left hand. I do most everything else with my right. I used to use my mouse with my left h

Re: BBC satire - dead on

2007-10-16 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Basically to mean bullshit, shitty and the like. On 10/16/07, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's funny. I like the name - Bullockson. Don't the brits use the word > Bullocks for something? > > Bruce > > Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > Those of English decent may feel slighted by this sa

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Crow T. Robot
Charlie, your observations prove that you think with neither your left OR right brains. In fact, you seem to use a different head entirely for your thinking. On 10/16/07, Charlie <> wrote: > > this -is- weird. > > i see her on her back touching herself ever so gently... now starting > to arch her

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Clock wise for me Not sure how but I can get it to switch. ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http:/

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Tony
whats WEIRD, is that while watching here at my desk. for a few brief moments, while i saw it going cwise, my mates saw it ccwise, and then as it changed for one, it changed for all to the opposite... wtf? On 10/16/07, Robert Rawlins - Think Blue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah I'm with Bruce, I

RE: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Duane
Clock wise for me -Original Message- From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:08 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Which do you see? http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22535838-5012895,00.html (I see clockwise, unless I concentrate o

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> And if you look carefully, she is cold. I wonder if anyone has bothered to look at the GIF frame by frame? ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the "What's New PDF" now http://

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I can't get it to go counter-clockwise no matter how hard I try. While there are right brain elements that are very well represented in my way of thinking, I'm mainly left brained. I'm so left brained that I still have trouble understanding inheritance explained with animals (fantasy based) rather

RE: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Shawna Hampton
heh heh ... I can also bend time and be in two places at once ... at least my clients seem to think so -Original Message- From: Crow T. Robot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:51 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Which do you see? On 10/16/07, Shawna Hampton <[E

Re: Just Wow.

2007-10-16 Thread Sam
I was in the UK recently and I don't think they can afford our half price houses. They still make the same pay but there goods have doubled in price. Most place sell bottled water for 2 pounds and a sandwich at a petrol station is 6-8 pounds. You can't eat at even a cheap restaurant for less than 9

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread G Money
Nope, still clockwise...just out of focus clockwise. My corpus callasum sucks :/ On 10/16/07, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > found a trick! > close both eyes > then open one out of focuse for a sec & open them both. > you can switch directions, > > ~~~

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Bruce Sorge
And if you look carefully, she is cold. Paul Ihrig wrote: > i saw it clockwise, and couldnt go the other way. > started to read the article and looked up from the bottom up, and it > had switched to counter-clockwaise. > > mostley i just see boobies.. > > ~~

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Crow T. Robot
still can't get it to switch. trying so hard. I need to stop trying, I swear my head is going to split open and this chick going to rise out of the top...spinning counter-clockwise, of course. just like a ballerina in a jewelry box! On 10/16/07, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > found a

Re: The Other Shoe Dropping?

2007-10-16 Thread Sam
Wasn't that Greenspan's doing? Lowering rates to ridicules levels and then bringing them up too fast? I think a lot of homeowners were taking the gamble assuming the home would increase in value. I was told by many Realtors to take the ARM or interest only loan on a house I couldn't afford then ref

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Jerry Johnson
hide the feet by scrolling up, close your eyes, open them, and scroll down and look at the foot. I can get it to switch back and forth pretty much at will. (started clockwise) On 10/16/07, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Clockwise only and I can't figure out how it could ever go t

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Tony
woah. i see clockwise, then a bit of counter SOMETIMES, almost like it switches. most peeps in my office see the exact opp of me. WILD! tw On 10/16/07, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i can't get it to go any other way than counter-clockwise. I almost blew a > circuit trying. > > On

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Tony
i used her boobies as a ref. point, and they are clockwise-rotating-tata's to me! tw On 10/16/07, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i saw it clockwise, and couldnt go the other way. > started to read the article and looked up from the bottom up, and it > had switched to counter-clockwaise. >

Re: New Iron Man Trailer

2007-10-16 Thread Bruce Sorge
Damn. Have to wait 7 months for it. Anyone buying Transformers today? Scott Stewart wrote: > http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/ironman/ > > > > This looks like it's gonna be a lot better than I thought > > ~| Enterpris

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Jerry Johnson
and now i cant any more. On 10/16/07, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hide the feet by scrolling up, close your eyes, open them, and scroll > down and look at the foot. > > I can get it to switch back and forth pretty much at will. > > (started clockwise) ~~

RE: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
Yeah I'm with Bruce, I'm totally clockwise, I can't even begin to see how it would turn the other way clever stuff. -Original Message- From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 October 2007 17:26 To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Which do you see? I can only see clockwise. Try

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Charlie Griefer
this -is- weird. i see her on her back touching herself ever so gently... now starting to arch her back arching clockwise... no no... counterclockwise... wait.. clockwise again... she's all over the place! On 10/16/07, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's crazy, I can't get it to go an

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Ian Skinner
Ok, with a little more practice I am gaining ability to switch back and forth. Which makes me wonder about the image itself and how this optical effect is done. ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top com

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Crow T. Robot
On 10/16/07, Shawna Hampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't favor one side over > the other and can access either side at will. > That sounds very Super-Hero ish... ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the la

Re: BBC satire - dead on

2007-10-16 Thread Bruce Sorge
That's funny. I like the name - Bullockson. Don't the brits use the word Bullocks for something? Bruce Michael Dinowitz wrote: > Those of English decent may feel slighted by this satire of the TV network > that they pay for. It is not meant to be a racist posting against those > taxpaying citize

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Ian Skinner
Deanna Schneider wrote: > http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22535838-5012895,00.html YOU ARE MESSING WITH MY HEAD! Witch, Witch I say ... get the fagots and the lighter fluid. Seriously that was weird. When I first looked I saw the counter-clockwise and no matter how I tried

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Paul Ihrig
found a trick! close both eyes then open one out of focuse for a sec & open them both. you can switch directions, ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wi

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread G Money
That's crazy, I can't get it to go any way but CLOCKWISE...and i'm POSITIVE i'm a left brainer. This "test" is funky. On 10/16/07, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i can't get it to go any other way than counter-clockwise. I almost blew > a > circuit trying. > > On 10/16/07, Dean

RE: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Shawna Hampton
My husband showed me this the other day ... at first I could only see counter-clockwise. Then I focused a bit and saw it clockwise. Now I can go back and forth if I concentrate. Which is about right -- I took another similar test a while back (like a real psychologist-tested diagnostic test) for l

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Paul Ihrig
i saw it clockwise, and couldnt go the other way. started to read the article and looked up from the bottom up, and it had switched to counter-clockwaise. mostley i just see boobies.. ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion disc

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Clockwise only and I can't figure out how it could ever go the other way. On 10/16/07, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i can't get it to go any other way than counter-clockwise. I almost blew a > circuit trying. > > On 10/16/07, Deanna Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > h

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Bruce Sorge
I can only see clockwise. Try as I might I cannot see her spinning CC. Bruce Deanna Schneider wrote: > http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22535838-5012895,00.html > > (I see clockwise, unless I concentrate on not looking directly at it, > then I can see counter clockwise intermit

Re: Which do you see?

2007-10-16 Thread Crow T. Robot
i can't get it to go any other way than counter-clockwise. I almost blew a circuit trying. On 10/16/07, Deanna Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22535838-5012895,00.html > > (I see clockwise, unless I concentrate on not looking directly

BBC satire - dead on

2007-10-16 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Those of English decent may feel slighted by this satire of the TV network that they pay for. It is not meant to be a racist posting against those taxpaying citizens. It is a message of peace (or piece). :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOWptKsPHYQ -- Michael Dinowitz (http://www.linkedin.com/i

Re: The Other Shoe Dropping?

2007-10-16 Thread Tony
i truly do no know. i have over 2.5 years left, im hoping to weather the storm and see what happens to the market about 1 yr out from my 3 yr end. then ill go from there. maybe refi, maybe sell, see what market does. tw On 10/16/07, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did the ARM have a

Re: The Other Shoe Dropping?

2007-10-16 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I'm married to a real estate agent. She knows all the pitfalls of the different loans. Lucky for me, cause I hate that kind of crap. On 10/16/07, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did the ARM have a lockdown option? We could've gotten an ARM and bought a > lot more house, but I didn't

Re: The Other Shoe Dropping?

2007-10-16 Thread Bruce Sorge
I agree on the lenders taking a huge hit. My mom works for one of the largest lenders out there and they are doing massive lay-offs to try and stay afloat, as well as getting some bailout money from other banks. Fortunately for her she is an underwriter who telecommutes 100% and is one of their

RE: The Other Shoe Dropping?

2007-10-16 Thread Scott Stewart
Did the ARM have a lockdown option? We could've gotten an ARM and bought a lot more house, but I didn't want to get hammered later on. My first mortgage was an ARM, we wound up locking down at 8.5%. The problem was that the mortgage company that our loan got sold to wouldn't advise us or answer a

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