An interesting essay

2008-08-21 Thread Sam
The Bush Era in Perspective By Robert Kagan http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/08/the_september_12_paradigm.html The world does not look today the way most anticipated it would after the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989. Great-power competition was supposed to give way to an era of geo

Re: Russia, Georgia, & Neo-Cons

2008-08-21 Thread Sam
Didn't you support the war in Afghanistan? By your rule that's a foul unless your boots are on the ground. On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sam wrote: >> Wow, you guys are scraping bottom if you think only combat soldiers >> can support a war. > > There a

Re: Russia, Georgia, & Neo-Cons

2008-08-21 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Wow, you guys are scraping bottom if you think only combat soldiers > can support a war. There are thousands of American engaged in volunteer peace missions overseas. I'm sure all of them think the US taxpayer should, say, have a war against genocide in Darfur. Since we don't, the

Re: Russia, Georgia, & Neo-Cons

2008-08-21 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > I am suggesting, with regard to Russia, that we prevent a wider war by > making it clear to the Russians that we will not stand by while they > roll over the former Soviet-bloc nations one by one. Been there. We send in the SecState and she flaps on about 60s. Then the Russians

Re: Russia, Georgia, & Neo-Cons

2008-08-21 Thread Robert Munn
At what point did you swirl the tea leaves around and decide that I was advocating a war? I have done no such thing. I am suggesting, with regard to Russia, that we prevent a wider war by making it clear to the Russians that we will not stand by while they roll over the former Soviet-bloc nations

Re: Russia, Georgia, & Neo-Cons

2008-08-21 Thread Sam
Wow, you guys are scraping bottom if you think only combat soldiers can support a war. BTW, didn't Obama mention attacking Pakistan? On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>the russians are the ones rattling the sabres, apparently youhad not noticed. >> > > I sti

Re: Russia, Georgia, & Neo-Cons

2008-08-21 Thread Larry Lyons
>the russians are the ones rattling the sabres, apparently youhad not noticed. > I still stand by what I said, you're sounding like a classic chickenhawk. Its very easy to sound so big and threatening, when someone else is doing the bleeding. ~~~

Re: Best Olympics Picture

2008-08-21 Thread Cameron Childress
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Best Olympics Picture

2008-08-21 Thread Gruss Gott
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Re: Russia, Georgia, & Neo-Cons

2008-08-21 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > and doesn't that mean obama has no right to be commander in chief, > since he didn't volunteer. > Obama isn't suggesting we go to war. You are. So go. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important a

Re: Russia, Georgia, & Neo-Cons

2008-08-21 Thread Robert Munn
and doesn't that mean obama has no right to be commander in chief, since he didn't volunteer. On 8/21/08, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>You sound like the Europeans in the 1930s. Why should we appease the >>Russians while they swallow Georgia and then move on to Poland, the >>Baltics, a

Re: Russia, Georgia, & Neo-Cons

2008-08-21 Thread Robert Munn
the russians are the ones rattling the sabres, apparently youhad not noticed. On 8/21/08, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>You sound like the Europeans in the 1930s. Why should we appease the >>Russians while they swallow Georgia and then move on to Poland, the >>Baltics, and Ukraine? Not

Re: Russia, Georgia, & Neo-Cons

2008-08-21 Thread Gruss Gott
> gg wrote: > Really? > > Cause thats what I hear from you all the time now. > As you should. I'm a concerned citizen who's going to be VERY careful before I spend any of my tax dollars or neighbor's lives on war. I'm not an expert at war, so I'm going to be very cautious before I recommend one.

Re: Russia, Georgia, & Neo-Cons

2008-08-21 Thread Loathe
Really? Cause thats what I hear from you all the time now. Gruss Gott wrote: >> RoMunn wrote: >> You sound like the Europeans in the 1930s. > > You sound like a civilian doing a risk assessment of war. > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusio

RE: more kitchen advice

2008-08-21 Thread Adam Churvis
Two places where you should always look for such advice are America's Test Kitchen and Consumer Reports. They're both on the web, but I believe the part you're looking for is a paid service on both. While those sites have professional test reviews, you can also look on eGullet.com for consumer co

Re: Russia, Georgia, & Neo-Cons

2008-08-21 Thread Larry Lyons
>You sound like the Europeans in the 1930s. Why should we appease the >Russians while they swallow Georgia and then move on to Poland, the >Baltics, and Ukraine? Not happening. And you sound like a classic chickenhawk. I notice you're not volunteering. Its really easy to rattle the sabers when it

Hanging around one place for a very very long time

2008-08-21 Thread Larry Lyons
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7570928.stm Talk about living in the same neighbourhood for a while: Uncovering the ultimate family tree By Tristana Moore BBC News, Goettingen Manfred Huchthausen, a 58-year-old teacher, proudly showed me around his well-tended garden. "Isn't it beautiful?"

Re: Russia, Georgia, & Neo-Cons

2008-08-21 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > You sound like the Europeans in the 1930s. You sound like a civilian doing a risk assessment of war. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http

Re: This is fun (Science Geekery)

2008-08-21 Thread William Bowen
> http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/2008/06/links-june-17.html LOL. well done! -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 i

This is fun (Science Geekery)

2008-08-21 Thread Jim Davis
Trying to catch up on weeks of blogs, this entry was cute as hell: http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/2008/06/links-june-17.html Jim Davis ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get

Re: Russia, Georgia, & Neo-Cons

2008-08-21 Thread Robert Munn
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Gruss wrote: > So the question is simple: is the US willing to challenge Russia in > its sphere of control - probably risking war - or is it better to use > diplomacy with Russia while ceding them their Sphere of Control? > > If we want to risk war to control all a

Re: Russia, Georgia, & Neo-Cons

2008-08-21 Thread William Bowen
> I thought it was Ronnie Raygun who first came up with such a stupid program > (i.e., Starwars). That was laser beams or sharks or maybe sharks *with* frickin' laser beams... Seems that the Bush Admin's attitude is, "*obviously* laser beams are teh stoopid! duh! We should spend a shitload of mo

Re: Russia, Georgia, & Neo-Cons

2008-08-21 Thread G Money
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought it was Ronnie Raygun who first came up with such a stupid program > (i.e., Starwars). At least it had some relevance when Ronnie thought it up. The Soviet's were not an invented enemy, like this "rogue state" cl

Re: Russia, Georgia, & Neo-Cons

2008-08-21 Thread Larry Lyons
>I am NOT a fan of the missile shield. It's relaunched an arms race, it's >designed to repel a phantom menace (ouch!), and best of allit doesn't >even work!!! Again follow the money. Those pushing for the plan the strongest have a strong financial relationship, either directly or through cont

Re: Russia, Georgia, & Neo-Cons

2008-08-21 Thread G Money
I am NOT a fan of the missile shield. It's relaunched an arms race, it's designed to repel a phantom menace (ouch!), and best of allit doesn't even work!!! We're gonna start a war over an unnecessary piece of hardware that doesn't even work.only George W. Bush could be behind such a wonder

Re: Russia, Georgia, & Neo-Cons

2008-08-21 Thread Gruss Gott
> gMoney wrote: > Doesn't surprise me one iota. Did you know that well over 50% of the Polish > population was AGAINST supporting the US missile shield in their country? > Then Russia went into Georgia, and suddenly, 70% are FOR the US missile > shield. > Here are the simple politics of it: * Wou

Re: Usability is not something this site knows

2008-08-21 Thread Kelly
LMAO Cameron Childress wrote: > Chris Angel called, he wants his overly dramatic stare back. > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> be careful not to click the 'x' >> >> http://www.samanzerin.com/ >> > > ~~

Re: Usability is not something this site knows

2008-08-21 Thread Maxwell Appleton
hahah that's friggin awesome On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > + 1 million > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Someone should punch that guy in the face. His site sucks ass. > > > > > > > ~

Re: "Books to Read Before you Die"

2008-08-21 Thread Larry Lyons
>> Adam, >> >> Thanks for reminding me of McKellan's Richard III - just ordered it along >> with Kenneth Branagh's Henry V. >> >> >Enjoyed Branagh's Hamlet...probably my favorite one. Everything McKellan >does is stellar. > I haven't seen his Hamlet, very much liked his Much Ado About Nothing, but

Re: Russia, Georgia, & Neo-Cons

2008-08-21 Thread G Money
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So coming from the people who know tyranny best- those who suffered > under it for decades under Soviet domination- the US is the friend and > ally of free nations. How does everyone feel about that statement? > Speak up, i

Re: "Books to Read Before you Die"

2008-08-21 Thread G Money
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adam, > > Thanks for reminding me of McKellan's Richard III - just ordered it along > with Kenneth Branagh's Henry V. > > Enjoyed Branagh's Hamlet...probably my favorite one. Everything McKellan does is stellar. -- The flo

Re: Usability is not something this site knows

2008-08-21 Thread Cameron Childress
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Re: Usability is not something this site knows

2008-08-21 Thread Erika L. Walker
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Re: more kitchen advice

2008-08-21 Thread Erika L. Walker
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