Halloween

2008-09-17 Thread kelly
Hey folks. We're going to be having Halloween party on Nov 1 in Westminster MD. Several live bands, food, drinks and fun. It will be an all day event and kid friendly. If anyone is interested just let me know and I'll send you more details. Peace, Kelly www.webdiva.org Sent via BlackBerry fro

Re: My Mommy's OK - you can all stop worrying!

2008-09-17 Thread Beth In Alaska
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Re: eve ensler on palin

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
I agree, torture is not OK. Am I sorry they did it to KSM? Nope. The guy hates us, hates everything about us, he wants to destroy our entire civilization. Fairness and justice are great ideals, just be clear that Al Qaeda does not believe in fairness, and their sense of justice is killing everyone

Re: non political - off topic :) Lawn Mowers

2008-09-17 Thread William Bowen
> 5 1/2 hours of palm blistering fun /puts on best Gielgud voice Might I suggest madame wear gloves? :-P Weedeater gas powered mower purchased from Lowe's for $130 about 6 years ago. Replacement toggle on the main push bar from Lowe's, 6 bucks. 14 year old son mows the lawn every weekend

Re: Today's POW Update

2008-09-17 Thread William Bowen
FWIW, McCain fired it (the POW/pass rhetoric) up on Monday at a campaign rally. that was after he had peddled his economy in crisis message and his "Veep is a woman" message. so there was at least one this week. >> > Chuck wrote: >> > what happened to the daily updates? >> > *tumbleweeds* >> > >

Re: Whose policies led to the credit crisis?

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
in general, yes. on this thread, i didn't tally the count. ;-) On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:44 PM, denstar wrote: > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Robert Munn wrote: >> hardly, i agree with the republicans more than the democrats on the issues. > > Even after this thread? > ~~

Re: Fed buys 80% of AIG for $85 billion

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:48 PM, William wrote: > > That *all* happened in the last 8 years. Thanks for that mr. bush. no, the debt was enormous before bush, he just made it a lot bigger. but that's beside the point. we could have a debt of zero today and we would still be totally bankrupt as a

Re: Palin's email account hacked, emails published

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:59 PM, denstar wrote: > This is what you and Sam are fighting for. illegal hacking of political candidates communications? no, i don't think so. > Or are you going to bust an about-face, and claim privacy and whatnot > is *really* what you've been running on, and those

Re: Palin's email account hacked, emails published

2008-09-17 Thread denstar
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > Sounds like Watergate, doesn't it? > > As if this election couldn't get any freakier. Is anyone even paying attention? Freaky? This is what you and Sam are fighting for. Or are you going to bust an about-face, and claim privacy and wha

Re: Jamie Gorelick, Mistress of Disaster

2008-09-17 Thread denstar
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Sam wrote: [...] > But thanks for playing:) Win some, lose some. =] -- The good man is he who rules himself as he does his own property: his autonomous being is modelled on material power. Theodor Adorno

Re: Fed buys 80% of AIG for $85 billion

2008-09-17 Thread denstar
So long as they're not using the September 11th attacks as a political tool this go around, I guess I can't complain. The economy at least is sorta relevant. Sad that the "fiscal conservatives" put us here. Oh, yeah, it was a "team effort" for that one. :-) -- The man for whom time stretches

Re: Fed buys 80% of AIG for $85 billion

2008-09-17 Thread William Bowen
> We may be passing on an America to our children that is less > prosperous, maybe meaner and more divided than the country we > inherited from our parents. - Barack Obama We may be. That's a possibility. that's the nice thing about conjecture. One thing that is for sure, we *will* be passing on

Re: Whose policies led to the credit crisis?

2008-09-17 Thread denstar
Why is it always tit for tat? Do you have some kind of personal investment in the Republican party? Saying that it's not that bad, everything is relative, "clinton did it too", seems sorta like a cop-out. It's actually rather counter-productive to getting the problems addressed. I mean, is it b

Re: Whose policies led to the credit crisis?

2008-09-17 Thread denstar
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > hardly, i agree with the republicans more than the democrats on the issues. Even after this thread? -- The individual mirrors in his individuation the preordained social laws of exploitation, however mediated. Theodor Adorno > On Wed, Sep 1

Re: ... there is a God..

2008-09-17 Thread denstar
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Jim Davis wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Tony >> Subject: Re: ... there is a God.. >> >> gents >> >> http://www.wwtdd.com/photo.phtml?post_key=12211&photo_key=35141 >> >> you cannot tell me those arent strangely spaced. >> gotta be fakies. >> gotta be

Re: eve ensler on palin

2008-09-17 Thread denstar
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > Perception is reality, right? So why does the Left (and I'm not > talking about you, Maureen) continue to drive the perception that > Gitmo is a den of horrors? The answer goes back to why we are debating > this election - it is a partisan

Re: Palin's email account hacked, emails published

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
Hacking the account was DEFINITELY illegal. The Secret Service and the FBI are already involved. The news, such as it is, is hardly noteworthy. Amateurs did this. Pros would not have posted screen shots with the full URLs of the proxy server. The guy who runs the proxy server has already said he'l

RE: ... there is a God..

2008-09-17 Thread adam
That's her as a young girl in a movie with James Mason (that's him as the artist on the beach). Most recently she won the Best Actress Oscar for "The Queen." She's played the queen of England three times that I know of (The Madness of King George, Elizabeth I, and The Queen). I have the entire P

Re: eve ensler on palin

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Dana wrote: > you keep saying that. If it is ok for him then it is ok for anyone, nah, only for mass-murderers. > and just think, perhaps he would have preferred two in the head, hmm? without doubt. sucks to be him. ~~

Re: eve ensler on palin

2008-09-17 Thread Dana
you keep saying that. If it is ok for him then it is ok for anyone, and just think, perhaps he would have preferred two in the head, hmm? On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree torture not OK, that was what I meant about what they did to > him being for r

Re: Palin's email account hacked, emails published

2008-09-17 Thread Dana
yeah well... courts are sort of famous for allowing the first amendment. Who knows any more though. My understanding is this -- the documents are news. They confirm that she used her YAHOO ACCOUNT FOR CRISSAKES to conduct government business in an effort to avoid subpoenas. Hacking the account was

Re: Palin's email account hacked, emails published

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
I'm talking about whether the courts allow it. BTW, an update - looks like the people responsible are going to be caught, because they are morons: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/18/palin_email_investigation/ On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Dana wrote: > if you thnk this is precedent-setti

Re: eve ensler on palin

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
I agree torture not OK, that was what I meant about what they did to him being for revenge. AFAIK they don't use waterboarding any longer. Like I said before, I don't especially care about what they did to KSM. Two in the back of the head would have been fine with me. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 7:52

Re: Fed buys 80% of AIG for $85 billion

2008-09-17 Thread Sam
The new threat, it's going to be meaner: We may be passing on an America to our children that is less prosperous, maybe meaner and more divided than the country we inherited from our parents. - Barack Obama On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 4:29 PM, denstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh my! A Republican

Re: Whose policies led to the credit crisis?

2008-09-17 Thread Sam
I think it's interesting you call yourself unbiased and independent yet you always attack the republicans and rarely the dems. This thread your entire argument is McCain is not a leader because he wasn't able to stop Obama and Dodd, You have nothing to say about Obama and Dodd? Don't you think that

Re: eve ensler on palin

2008-09-17 Thread Sam
We talked about him a long time age. it ended up the Canadian Government was responsible. How easily you forget. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > no he is not, that's the thing. > > Khadr because he is a child and a Canadian citizen. What about Maher > Arar? Agai

Re: Today's POW Update

2008-09-17 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Chuck wrote: > > what happened to the daily updates? > > *tumbleweeds* > > > > Well it switched to "lipstick", then "sexist", now it's "workers". > > I heard Bill Maher say tonight that the average American is too dumb > to

Re: non political - off topic :) Lawn Mowers

2008-09-17 Thread Erika L. Walker
I actually just heard about that from someone else as well. They had bought a new riding mower with a B&S engine and after only a year was having issues with it ... good thing to point out. I'd forgotten about that. We're not buying a new mower anyway. Gonna just put a used deck on this old one wh

Re: Whose policies led to the credit crisis?

2008-09-17 Thread Dana
I don't care. He was tortured himself and condones continuing the practice. I find that reprehensible. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not a waffle, a Clinton, which is to say, a sop to the base of his > party during the primary campaign. Like I said, he l

Re: eve ensler on palin

2008-09-17 Thread Dana
http://foia.fbi.gov/guantanamo/detainees.pdf On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > no he is not, that's the thing. > > And I reject the idea that torture is ok if it is only one guy. > Torture is torture. What about the people they waterboared? Is that ok > because the

Here Goes MorganStanley?

2008-09-17 Thread Gruss Gott
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Morgan Stanley (MS.N), which saw its stock pummeled Wednesday on worries it may not survive the credit crunch, has held preliminary takeover talks with Wachovia Corp (WB.N), a person familiar with the situation told Reuters. Separately, CNBC reported that Morgan Stanley was h

Re: eve ensler on palin

2008-09-17 Thread Dana
no he is not, that's the thing. And I reject the idea that torture is ok if it is only one guy. Torture is torture. What about the people they waterboared? Is that ok because they only admit to doing it to three people? Note, we only know about Kahtani because someone leaked the logs. We only know

Re: Today's POW Update

2008-09-17 Thread Sam
Pt.. He's talking about the guy that started a "Today's POW Update" thread On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I heard Bill Maher say tonight that the average American is too dumb > to be governed; that he/she has no capacity to form or analyze > reasoned

Re: Today's POW Update

2008-09-17 Thread Gruss Gott
> Chuck wrote: > what happened to the daily updates? > *tumbleweeds* > Well it switched to "lipstick", then "sexist", now it's "workers". I heard Bill Maher say tonight that the average American is too dumb to be governed; that he/she has no capacity to form or analyze reasoned arguments and inst

Re: Whose policies led to the credit crisis?

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
Not a waffle, a Clinton, which is to say, a sop to the base of his party during the primary campaign. Like I said, he learned from Clinton and Bush how to get past the primary. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Dana wrote: > it's not an issue to waffle on.

Re: eve ensler on palin

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Dana wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Khadr > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_al-Kahtani > http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/21/opinion/21lewis.html Khadr is a weird case. Why doesn't Canada want him back? Kahtani was one of the hijackers, but could

Re: Now that's a snake ...

2008-09-17 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I saw that a couple of days ago...I was watching it late at night after everyone else had gone to bed. At the end of it, I had to go and change my underwear. I hate snakes. On Sep 17, 2008, at 5:17 PM, Erika L. Walker wrote: > Take a gander at this sucker ... > > http://www.texas-hunters.c

Re: non political - off topic :) Lawn Mowers

2008-09-17 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
just be leary of which engine you get in your next tractor. I had to replace the B&S motor on my tractor after only 3 years of service. I talked with 4 small engine shops and they all told me that it was a bad air filter design by B&S and that they had a new design that was much better.

Re: Whose policies led to the credit crisis?

2008-09-17 Thread Dana
it's not an issue to waffle on. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sounds like he got the fuzzy-answer syndrome. that was before he > locked up the primary nomination. i'd like to know what he has to say > about it now. ~~

Re: My Mommy's OK - you can all stop worrying!

2008-09-17 Thread Tony
SWEET SAUCE -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yay :) > > On 9/17/08, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Finally reached my mom (she lives in Houston) today on

Re: Whose policies led to the credit crisis?

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
sounds like he got the fuzzy-answer syndrome. that was before he locked up the primary nomination. i'd like to know what he has to say about it now. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > yeah... whatever happened to McCain... > > http://www.boston.com/news/nation/art

Re: Whose policies led to the credit crisis?

2008-09-17 Thread Dana
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > McCain during Bush Admin: > > - Was clearly and strongly against detainee abuse and torture yeah... whatever happened to McCain... http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/16/mccain_drops_the_torture_ball/ ~~

Re: eve ensler on palin

2008-09-17 Thread Dana
you know what they say about assume.the fact that the media does not cover it does not mean that it is not there. Consider who owns the media. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Khadr http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_al-Kahtani http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/21/opinion/21lewis.html that's

Re: Whose policies led to the credit crisis?

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
McCain during Bush Admin: - Was clearly and strongly against detainee abuse and torture - Was part of the Gang of Thirteen coalition to push through judicial nominees in the face of partisan bickering - Was the original voice in favor of the surge - Pushed for Freddie/Fannie reform (say what you l

Re: eve ensler on palin

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
Some of them are still there, yes, but how are they being treated? Is it the abusive place it was before? I can find nothing in the news about continuing abuse at Guantanamo. I did some poking around and the best information I could find was that the really abusive stuff happened early on- as we a

Re: Economy: What would McCain Do?

2008-09-17 Thread Dana
N anything but that. Well actually listening to a GOP apologist try to blame Demicrats for Wall Street might be worse, if it were not so entertaining :) On 9/17/08, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The shot that I took at Obama's team was a response based on Gruss' > on-going c

Re: My Mommy's OK - you can all stop worrying!

2008-09-17 Thread Dana
yay :) On 9/17/08, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Finally reached my mom (she lives in Houston) today on her cell. > > Apparently her building was the only one in her complex with NO damage... > two of them near her had their roofs blown to hell and several other lost > siding and windows.

Re: eve ensler on palin

2008-09-17 Thread Dana
continuing drama? Because THOSE PEOPLE ARE STILL THERE sheesh talk about unclear on the concept On 9/17/08, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > for which lots of people have been punished. so why the continuing drama? > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Dana wrote: >> I dunno. Might have

Re: Whose policies led to the credit crisis?

2008-09-17 Thread Larry Lyons
>Larry's onto something here, but we don't know for sure, and given the >supposed importance of the bill at the time, it may or may not be the >case, and unless someone really wants to take the time to research it >(not me), we just can't be sure. A nice bit of evidence would be to compare the num

My Mommy's OK - you can all stop worrying!

2008-09-17 Thread Jim Davis
Finally reached my mom (she lives in Houston) today on her cell. Apparently her building was the only one in her complex with NO damage... two of them near her had their roofs blown to hell and several other lost siding and windows. But for her, nothing. She lost water for a few days and power o

Re: Whose policies led to the credit crisis?

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
hardly, i agree with the republicans more than the democrats on the issues. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:20 PM, denstar wrote: > So you'd say it's about 50-50? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic re

Re: Whose policies led to the credit crisis?

2008-09-17 Thread denstar
So you'd say it's about 50-50? -- The gods look in pleasure on penitent sinners. Theodor Adorno On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > i'll beat on the 'publicans when i disagree with them, e.g the idiocy > over blocking reform because of a political score. > > On Wed, Sep 17, 200

Re: Whose policies led to the credit crisis?

2008-09-17 Thread denstar
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > I'm going to reluctantly add Gruss to my killfile. > > I don't often agree with Sam on anything. > > Argument is one thing, but blatant attacks on other people are not something > I like, or want to have to read. I've never killfiled anyone.

Re: Economy: What would McCain Do?

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Gruss wrote: > Does experience help? of course. But just like basketball, > experience will never overcome applied talent. and John McCain has both ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the mo

Re: Whose policies led to the credit crisis?

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
i'll beat on the 'publicans when i disagree with them, e.g the idiocy over blocking reform because of a political score. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:13 PM, denstar wrote: > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Maureen wrote: >> Perhaps YOU have said that, but Sam's original post blamed it all on the >>

RE: ... there is a God..

2008-09-17 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:13 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: ... there is a God.. > > gents > > http://www.wwtdd.com/photo.phtml?post_key=12211&photo_key=35141 > > you cannot tell me those arent strangely spac

Re: eve ensler on palin

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
for which lots of people have been punished. so why the continuing drama? On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Dana wrote: > I dunno. Might have something to do with the stuff about not letting > people sleep, telling them that they need to be trained like a dog > before they can be around humans, "a

Re: Whose policies led to the credit crisis?

2008-09-17 Thread denstar
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Maureen wrote: > Perhaps YOU have said that, but Sam's original post blamed it all on the Dems. And every time Rob says "both" he adds "the democrats"... =] Sorta like those apologies that start with "we were both wrong...". Awesome. Heh. =] Honestly, I don'

Re: Now that's a snake ...

2008-09-17 Thread denstar
Yowsers!, neh? Leave it to nature to scare you more than that flash animation of the screaming ghost or whatever... Giant gator vs. giant snake, the battle is on! -- The almost insoluble task is to let neither the power of others, nor our own powerlessness, stupefy us. Theodor Adorno On Wed, S

Re: eve ensler on palin

2008-09-17 Thread Dana
I dunno. Might have something to do with the stuff about not letting people sleep, telling them that they need to be trained like a dog before they can be around humans, "aggressive" interrogation techniques, lack of access to family memebers and to legal help... On 9/17/08, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PR

Re: Fed buys 80% of AIG for $85 billion

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
I think that's the old line. The new line is probably something along the lines of "if you vote for the other guy, the government will take your money and force you to live on welfare". On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 4:29 PM, denstar wrote: > Oh my! A Republican accusing a Democrat of fear mongering! >

Re: Palin's email account hacked, emails published

2008-09-17 Thread Dana
if you thnk this is precedent-setting -- have you been paying attention lately? On 9/17/08, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and for the sake of our political life, i hope you are wrong, because > that turns the internet into open season on everyone associated with a > campaign, and that i

Re: Palin's email account hacked, emails published

2008-09-17 Thread Dana
they may well want to know the source. On 9/17/08, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We'll see what a judge thinks. Ten bucks says the site gets a visit > from the Justice Department within 24 hours. > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Dana wrote: >> I find it very illuminating that the to

Re: Palin's email account hacked, emails published

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
and for the sake of our political life, i hope you are wrong, because that turns the internet into open season on everyone associated with a campaign, and that is a horrible, horrible precedent to set. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Robert wrote: > We'll see what a judge thinks. Ten bucks says t

Re: Palin's email account hacked, emails published

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
We'll see what a judge thinks. Ten bucks says the site gets a visit from the Justice Department within 24 hours. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Dana wrote: > I find it very illuminating that the top criterion for public office > in her eyes is LIFE. A pro-life orientation presumably? > > Sorry,

Re: Jamie Gorelick, Mistress of Disaster

2008-09-17 Thread Sam
The Gorelick Wall is what we were talking about when I stated that. What she added to the wall had nothing to do with Watergate. Watergate had nothing to do with separating communications between the CIA and FBI. Backtracking and saying the original wall was formed after Watergate doesn't tie Water

Re: eve ensler on palin

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 4:29 PM, denstar wrote: >> But that's exactly the problem I was referring to. Americans throw >> around words like "haul me off to Gitmo", and then people in other >> countries read that stuff and take it seriously, which goes a long way >> to explaining why people in other

Re: Palin's email account hacked, emails published

2008-09-17 Thread Dana
I find it very illuminating that the top criterion for public office in her eyes is LIFE. A pro-life orientation presumably? Sorry, but the emails are newsworthy and this is within the scope of the first amendment. Hacking the account is not however. On 9/17/08, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: A conservative case for Obama

2008-09-17 Thread denstar
I agree with the foe-conservatism. Faux, even. People are so bamboozled... but it's self-bamboozlement, as the proof is in the pudding. Guess it's more fun to live in fantasy land, than America, these days. America takes work, see, and why work when you can live on credit? -- Technology is mak

Re: BRILLIANT!! Aussie Cowbell!!

2008-09-17 Thread denstar
WOOHOO! Cardboard is right out. -- Tact is the discrimination of differences. It consists in conscious deviations. Theodor Adorno On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Paul Ihrig wrote: > beutiful ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software

Re: Today's POW Update

2008-09-17 Thread Charlie Griefer
what happened to the daily updates? *tumbleweeds* :) -- I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important

Palin's email account hacked, emails published

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
Someone is going to end up in jail for this hack. http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/17/palins-e-mail-account-hacked-published-on-web-site/ For those allergic to Fox News, the original is apparently at gawker.com, which says they will not take the emails down (let's see how long that lasts). ~

Re: Fed buys 80% of AIG for $85 billion

2008-09-17 Thread denstar
Oh my! A Republican accusing a Democrat of fear mongering! Wasn't the republican party the one that said "if you vote for the other guy, you'll die"? Oh, I see you covered that with the 9/11 comment (awesome, BTW). Hey, we're not all dead, so they must have been right! See? Perfectly logical.

Re: eve ensler on palin

2008-09-17 Thread denstar
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > But that's exactly the problem I was referring to. Americans throw > around words like "haul me off to Gitmo", and then people in other > countries read that stuff and take it seriously, which goes a long way > to explaining why people in other

Re: Jamie Gorelick, Mistress of Disaster

2008-09-17 Thread denstar
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Sam wrote: > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: Sam said: The wall has nothing to do with Watergate >> And I've got to question your ability >> to have an informed opinion on the matter when you said the "wall" had >> nothing to do with Wat

Re: eve ensler on palin

2008-09-17 Thread Maureen
I suspect the the f-ed up view of the US has a lot more to do with bombing innocents and behaving like imperialists than any words I might use. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But that's exactly the problem I was referring to. Americans throw > around word

Re: Whose policies led to the credit crisis?

2008-09-17 Thread Maureen
Real leadership would have pushed a "significant" bill through even in the face of opposition within the party. Real leadership would have said that reform was critical and made public any attempts by either side to thwart it. Co-sponsorship of a bill takes no effort, and is mostly a PR stunt, as

Re: Non Partisan Economy Thoughts

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Gruss wrote: > Just some random thoughts compiled from various sources including me: > (1.) The gov't is not putting the liabilities of Fannie and Freddie on > the books officially. Sounds like they expect a private buyer to step in later this year or next year.

Re: ... there is a God..

2008-09-17 Thread Charlie Griefer
watch Caligula. You'll see Helen Mirren :) On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.palcoweb.it/Personaggi/HelenMirren/Images/HelenMirren21.jpg > > that one? > > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://images.celebset.net

Re: ... there is a God..

2008-09-17 Thread Tony
http://www.palcoweb.it/Personaggi/HelenMirren/Images/HelenMirren21.jpg that one? On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://images.celebset.net/pics/H/1380Helen%20Mirren.jpg this her? > > -- tony > > Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peac

Re: ... there is a God..

2008-09-17 Thread Tony
http://images.celebset.net/pics/H/1380Helen%20Mirren.jpg this her? -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anne Archer, Sophia Loren, Helen Mirren being hot (

Re: Now that's a snake ...

2008-09-17 Thread Erika L. Walker
LOL! Made me jump too ... On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think I need to go change my drawers. > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >wrote: > > > Take a gander at this sucker ... > > > > http://www.texas-hunte

Re: ... there is a God..

2008-09-17 Thread Jerry Johnson
She isn't my type, either. But, fortunately, until I hear a girl-type person speak, I assume she is smart, well informed on current events, owns a library card, and is a good kisser. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Adam Churvis < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jesus, what is so f***ing special abo

Re: Now that's a snake ...

2008-09-17 Thread Jerry Johnson
I think I need to go change my drawers. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Take a gander at this sucker ... > > http://www.texas-hunters.com/media/flvplayer3.html > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion

No cowbell ... would rather have venison!

2008-09-17 Thread Erika L. Walker
Water Skiing on Cross Lake This was taken by a KTBS helicopter flying over Cross Lake! That has to be a HUGE gator to have a whole deer in its mouth! What do you think? Are you ready to go skiing on Cross Lake?! If you ski at the west end of the lake - try not to fall. http://graphics1.snopes.com

Re: eve ensler on palin

2008-09-17 Thread Gruss Gott
> Judah wrote: > I'd argue that the f-ed up view is more reasonably attributable to the f-ed > up things that our country does, like hauling people off to Gitmo. > Or fighting for de-regulation and then blaming the people who agreed with you. ~~

Re: Now that's a snake ...

2008-09-17 Thread Judah McAuley
Pretty wicked. It doesn't say what kind of snake it is but I'd have to guess either a reticulated python or an anaconda. Probably a python as I don't think that anacondas spend much time out of the water. Biggest snake I've ever hung out with in person was a 17 foot reticulated python. Damn those t

Re: NY Mets / NY Islanders get together

2008-09-17 Thread Judah McAuley
I support brain cancer research, but man, don't ask me to support the Islanders. They aren't the Ducks, but still... Good luck with your fundraisers and here's to the start of hockey season :) Judah On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Al Musella, DPM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Hi. >The mets a

Re: Economy: What would McCain Do?

2008-09-17 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > The shot that I took at Obama's team was a response based on Gruss' > on-going campaign that experience doesn't matter It matters. But not so much. Here's why: Think of sports: experience can help you play better, but even if you and I played basketball 24/7 since birth we stil

Re: eve ensler on palin

2008-09-17 Thread Judah McAuley
I'd argue that the f-ed up view is more reasonably attributable to the f-ed up things that our country does, like hauling people off to Gitmo. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But that's exactly the problem I was referring to. Americans throw > around word

Re: Fed buys 80% of AIG for $85 billion

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
I've been through it, firing a whole bunch of people in a single day and then wondering if the rest of us were going to have jobs the following week. For the people involved, it's a dark day, but they might be able to look back and laugh in a few years, it all depends on what they do next. On Wed,

Re: Now that's a snake ...

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
awesome On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Erika wrote: > Take a gander at this sucker ... > > http://www.texas-hunters.com/media/flvplayer3.html > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to

Re: eve ensler on palin

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
But that's exactly the problem I was referring to. Americans throw around words like "haul me off to Gitmo", and then people in other countries read that stuff and take it seriously, which goes a long way to explaining why people in other countries have such an f-ed up view of the United States. O

NY Mets / NY Islanders get together

2008-09-17 Thread Al Musella, DPM
Hi. The mets are in a tight race.. and every game is now very important.. there are tickets available for this Monday nights' home game at Shea Sept 22. as a fundraiser to benefit brain cancer research.. for details go to http://voicesagainstbraincancer.org/ .. We are also having a f

Now that's a snake ...

2008-09-17 Thread Erika L. Walker
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Re: non political - off topic :) Lawn Mowers

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
I have a relatively cheap self-propelled Craftsman walk-along mower I got from Sears on clearance. It works fine for my minimal grass cutting needs. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Scott S wrote: > Gas Mowers: > > Whaddya have that cuts well and is reliable? ~

Re: non political - off topic :) Lawn Mowers

2008-09-17 Thread Erika L. Walker
We have a toro weed whacker and we loves it. Little hard to start for me - but Charles likes it... The Craftsman mower I mentioned I've had for 5 years with not a single problem. I wash it after every use, keep it oiled and in the garage. It does finally need the blade sharpened - but that's it. G

Re: non political - off topic :) Lawn Mowers

2008-09-17 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > Gas Mowers: > > Whaddya have that cuts well and is reliable? > Toro super recycler. My yard is just on the edge of hand mowing for me (takes an hour + clean up). I've had a john deere and it was crap. I replaced my snow blower and lawn mower with toro and I couldn't be happier.

Re: Whose policies led to the credit crisis?

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Munn
Larry's onto something here, but we don't know for sure, and given the supposed importance of the bill at the time, it may or may not be the case, and unless someone really wants to take the time to research it (not me), we just can't be sure. There is no question that many Republicans and Democra

Re: ... there is a God..

2008-09-17 Thread Charlie Griefer
Anne Archer, Sophia Loren, Helen Mirren being hot (and they are) do not exclude Megan Fox from being hot as well. There are different kinds of hot :) On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Adam Churvis < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jesus, what is so f***ing special about this woman? She probably does

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