Re: Get your race card here

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
lol, too true On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Maureen wrote: > He'd still be a raving lunatic. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.ne

Re: Get your race card here

2008-09-24 Thread Maureen
He'd still be a raving lunatic. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But if he was a Republican... > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:29 AM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hastings is a raving lunatic, nothing he says really surprises me. ~~~

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
Yes, I voted to protect you as well, even though you don't apparently want the protection. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:30 PM, William wrote: > I didn't vote for my representative to erode my rights in the name of > "protecting" me. > > You apparently did.

Re: Get your race card here

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
Republicans tend to have the cranky Bible-thumping types rather than the black helicopter types on their fringes. Take your pick of them... On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Michael wrote: > But if he was a Republican... > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:29 AM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: Get your race card here

2008-09-24 Thread Michael Dinowitz
But if he was a Republican... On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:29 AM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hastings is a raving lunatic, nothing he says really surprises me. > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most importa

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread William Bowen
I didn't vote for my representative to erode my rights in the name of "protecting" me. You apparently did. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am satisfied that members of Congress from both parties saw the evidence > and were convinced. That is called "re

Re: Get your race card here

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
Hastings is a raving lunatic, nothing he says really surprises me. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Michael wrote: > Rep. Alcee Hastings told an audience of Jewish Democrats Wednesday that > they > should be wary of Republican VP nominee Sarah Palin because "anybody toting > guns and stripping

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
I am satisfied that members of Congress from both parties saw the evidence and were convinced. That is called "representative government". On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:26 PM, William wrote: > > You don't believe it, that's your choice. > > you seem to believe it because they said it was so, but the

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread William Bowen
> You don't believe it, that's your choice. you seem to believe it because they said it was so, but they offer no proof, that's your choice. I'll take evidence please. -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~

Get your race card here

2008-09-24 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Rep. Alcee Hastings told an audience of Jewish Democrats Wednesday that they should be wary of Republican VP nominee Sarah Palin because "anybody toting guns and stripping moose don't care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks." "If Sarah Palin isn't enough of a reason for you to get ov

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
You don't believe it, that's your choice. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:14 PM, William wrote: > > > and as for the list. Post hoc ergo propter hoc. How about some > specifics about how *exactly* the Patriotic Act was involved? >

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread William Bowen
> You mean like 9/11 was foiled without the Patriot Act? > > Oh right, that one succeeded. And the Patriot Act would have prevented 9/11? Well, gosh and golly, so would have making it illegal to carry box knives on fucking planes. But *that* little tid-bit escaped the notice of the airlines for a

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
That's a good analysis. There is risk, but there is also a real opportunity for the government to walk away with a couple of trillion dollars in cash. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Sam wrote: > The Paulson Plan Will Make Money For Taxpayers > > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB12223070411677398

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
You mean like 9/11 was foiled without the Patriot Act? Oh right, that one succeeded. Here is the full list: According to a CNN report in October, the list of plots foiled thanks to the Patriot Act includes: The West Coast Hijack Plot: In mid-2002 the United States disrupted a plot to use h

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Sam
The Paulson Plan Will Make Money For Taxpayers http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122230704116773989.html?mod=rss_opinion_main On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It comes down to credit ratings agencies. Big firms holding all these toxic > financial assets sta

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
It comes down to credit ratings agencies. Big firms holding all these toxic financial assets started getting downgraded as credit risks. The downgrade in their credit rating made it impossible for them to borrow money at a time when they most needed to borrow money, leading to the collapse of Bear

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread William Bowen
> Measures from the > Patriot Act were instrumental in preventing at least one very serious > terrorist attack against the country. and the "Millennium Plot" (http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/ops/millenium-plot.htm) was foiled *without* the Patriot Act. would it have been *more* foiled if t

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Maureen
If you want an eye-opening experience, check out this website: http://www.eia.doe.gov/ For all types of energy, it shows where it comes from, where it goes, how much it costs, and lots of other stats. Once you've read through this, you'll never listen to media or political commentary on energy th

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Judah wrote: > I have a sense of urgency, yes. But honestly at this point, I'm more > worried > about the effects of giving the Bush administration what it wants. The > Patriot Act was an emergency too. Our country was going to be given over to > the terrorists if

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread William Bowen
> I'd love to educate you but I know it's not possible unless you take > off your rose colored glasses. you could *try*, perhaps starting with, "McCain will solve this mess by..." and then saying something of import rather than bloviating again. > I don't know of a cure for republican derangement

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
Again, this is a national statistic, so yes, your personal power generation may be provided by something else, but across the country, 50% of the electricity Americans use everyday comes from coal. That doesn't mean it has to be that way, it means it is that way. Could we one day power everything

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Sam
I'm talking about his career, not as a presidential candidate. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not in this Congress. Thus far in the 110th Congress, McCain is tops in > missed votes. He's missed 64.1% of the votes (412 missed, 231 cast). Obama > comes i

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Beth In Alaska
> Does no one else have any sense of urgency about this problem? Holy shit, > lay aside the political issues until this is resolved. I think that some of us are curious how this wasn't a crisis a month ago and all of a sudden its an emergency ~~~

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Judah McAuley
I could see China coming after us because they own a substantial amount of government issued debt, but I don't see how that would come into play here. This is requiring the government to issue substantially *more* debt in order to bail out private companies. Where does paying China off come into th

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Sam
I'd love to educate you but I know it's not possible unless you take off your rose colored glasses. I don't know of a cure for republican derangement syndrome. ;P On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 8:40 PM, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Surely the Republican mouthpieces on the list can lay it

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Maureen
The urgency here is that the US government owes a lot of money to foreign lenders, and they've come to collect. Anyone who thinks the pressure is from Wall Street, and not Bejing hasn't been paying attention. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a se

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Judah McAuley
Where you are maybe. We get most of our electricity in the NW from hydro and my house is on 100% wind power. Still, coal will be part of the equation for the next several years to be sure. Just don't be so quick to say status quo is how it has to be. Judah On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Robert

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Judah McAuley
I have a sense of urgency, yes. But honestly at this point, I'm more worried about the effects of giving the Bush administration what it wants. The Patriot Act was an emergency too. Our country was going to be given over to the terrorists if it wasn't passed! And I think it is entirely clear that t

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Maureen
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doesn't he have an 80%+ voting record in the Senate? Neither candidate has done anything to brag about regarding the budget. Data from Project Vote Smart http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=53270 Since January of 2

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Judah McAuley
Not in this Congress. Thus far in the 110th Congress, McCain is tops in missed votes. He's missed 64.1% of the votes (412 missed, 231 cast). Obama comes in at number 3 in most votes missed at 45.9% (295 missed, 348 cast). So Obama has cast 117 more votes in this Congress than McCain. http://projec

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
The voting record in the last year is irrelevant. This is a crisis, a very real, very serious crisis. In fact, it is so much of a crisis that President Bush personally called Obama and asked him to come to the White House to meet with John McCain and the Congressional leadership from both parties

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread William Bowen
> http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/24/mccain-suspends-campaign-calls-for-first-debate-to-be-delayed/ > > gee, could he be doing this since Obama has jumped out in the polls > over this very issue? :) > And what is it, exactly that McCain plans to do, by focusing on this one issue? It

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Sam
Doesn't he have an 80%+ voting record in the Senate? On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is bullshit. I'm sorry but it is. > > He missed most of the votes during his tenure... and now he's rushing to the > rescue? Don't get me wrong: Obama missed nearl

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Jerry Barnes
There's no middle ground on this one. It's either brilliant or incredibly dumb. You can see what is going to happen: McCain can now claim he is helping solve the crises while Obama twiddles his thumbs prepping for a debate. If Obama changes his mind and goes to Washington, he is then followi

RE: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 3:14 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: McCain postpones campaign > > http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/24/mccain-suspends- > campaign-calls-for-first-debate-to-be-delaye

Re: Bush invites Obama, McCain, and Congressional leaders to White House

2008-09-24 Thread Dana
oo ooo ... pick me :) I know the answer to this one! On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone think it is a ploy now? Be scared if this thing doesn't get resolved > ASAP. > > http://www.wnbc.com/news/17551484/detail.html > > >

Bush invites Obama, McCain, and Congressional leaders to White House

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
Anyone think it is a ploy now? Be scared if this thing doesn't get resolved ASAP. http://www.wnbc.com/news/17551484/detail.html ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Dana
apparently the EPA is willing to go to court to prevent that On 9/24/08, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The alternative strategy hinges on carbon capture for Desert Rock. Is that > plant going to be required to perform carbon capture? > > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Dana wrote

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
The alternative strategy hinges on carbon capture for Desert Rock. Is that plant going to be required to perform carbon capture? On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Dana wrote: > > http://www.dinecare.org/pages/Coal/pdfs/Alternatives_to_Desert_Rock_Executive_Summary.pdf > > ::shrug:: > >

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Dana
http://www.dinecare.org/pages/Coal/pdfs/Alternatives_to_Desert_Rock_Executive_Summary.pdf ::shrug:: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluidized_bed_combustion > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Robert wrote: > >> I've been ins

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Dana
um. The state of New Mexico opposes the newest plant proposed here. The EPA issued a permit anyway. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been inside a bunch of clean coal plants, and I've seen experimental > boilers for things like pressurized fluidized be

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluidized_bed_combustion On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Robert wrote: > I've been inside a bunch of clean coal plants, and I've seen experimental > boilers for things like pressurized fluidized bed technology. The technology > works, but it is very expensive compare

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
I've been inside a bunch of clean coal plants, and I've seen experimental boilers for things like pressurized fluidized bed technology. The technology works, but it is very expensive compared to traditional coal-fired power plants. Technologies that are employed: 1. Fluidized-bed boilers - A boile

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Dana
it is currently being hyped because once the plants are built people are reluctant to shut them down, but air quality regulation is increasing popular. Seriously, when you cannot see the other side of the Grand Canyon vecause of coal plants in the next state, people begin to see the problem. On We

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I was reading a report a few years back about the various 'games' companies were playing to get certain moneys from the govenment for developing clean coal tech. Most of them were out and out fakes. I hope they've come closer to reality since then. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
none of which changes the reality that when you access a web site or turn on a light in your house, run your air conditioning or listen to your stereo, 50% of that electricity comes from coal. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Dana wrote: > here's the link that goes with that comment -- > > http:

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
Here are the poll numbers: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/ I don't know about you, but I am *extremely* concerned about the lack of a sense urgency in Congress, and the lack progress on anything resembling a solution to this problem. Financial analysts are predicting as much as a 20% dro

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Dana
here's the link that goes with that comment -- http://www.sierraclub.org/cleanair/clear_skies.asp On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > there's probably a more objective write up but this one was easy to > find and gives you some terms to search.. > > On Wed, Sep

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Dana
there's probably a more objective write up but this one was easy to find and gives you some terms to search.. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:32 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Really? > > I know Bush is a whack job but...why would he do something like this? If the > company has already agr

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Judah McAuley
Depends on which poll you are looking at of course. The new ABC/WaPo poll puts Obama at 52 to McCain 43, Fox puts Obama up 45-39, Diego has it at 48-42 for Obama. Regardless, the polls are pretty much all trending quite consistently to Obama at the moment. That, of course, could change. What I don

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Dana
yeah, giving that much to wall street is a much better investment. Tell you what, this election is not even worth making fun of any more ;) On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's inject a little dose of reality into the discussion, shall we? > 50% of our el

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Dana
clean coal is a misnomer. Take it from someone that breathes the clean air it produces. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is this guy out to lunch, or what? No clean coal plants in America? We > have the world's largest reserves of coal, 50% of our electric

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Dana wrote: > wow soo I guess we can look forward to this looting to take place as > scheduled then hmm? huh? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to da

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Dana
wow soo I guess we can look forward to this looting to take place as scheduled then hmm? On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Obama is only up 3 points in the average of national polls, still > within the margin of error. > > McCain has obviously been convinced

Re: Lindsay Lohan and Clay Aiken

2008-09-24 Thread Dana
she's been planning a wedding so some chick named Samantha for a while, so I'd she was already "out." On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > uhmm.. Clay Aiken was a big "duh!!!" > > but Lindsay Lohan? although...depending on who she hooked up with > >

Re: Platform Change!

2008-09-24 Thread Dana
I thought you were against socialism? On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:58 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No shit right? > > Wait, I thought you were all for the bail outs? > > Gruss Gott wrote: >> Uh oh. From the 2008 Republican platform description: >> >> "We do not support government bailouts

Re: I hate canned laughter

2008-09-24 Thread Dana
sour On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:16 AM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wine? > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:28 AM, test test <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Grapes >> >> > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is

Re: McCain suspends campaign ...

2008-09-24 Thread Dana
he already used that one the last time things got uncomfortable. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ha! Not quite what some of you may have hoped for ... > > http://www.kypost.com/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=8dd86259-503b-4713-bd6e-456ec0ebd16b >

ann coulter does some actual journalism on the cause of the financial crisis

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
She still manages to take some trademark nasty shots, but she has some actual news to report... http://www.anncoulter.com/ On MSNBC this week, Newsweek's Jonathan Alter tried to connect John McCain to the current financial disaster, saying: "If you remember the Keating Five scandal that (McCain)

Re: Lindsay Lohan and Clay Aiken

2008-09-24 Thread Tony
still got it covered... im tellin you... id bet 75% of 15-25 yr old chicks have tried at this point. at least on the east coast... -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
Let's inject a little dose of reality into the discussion, shall we? 50% of our electricity comes from coal-fired power plants. There are 600 coal plants in the country. This is a total SWAG, but I'll guess that those plants represent $500 billion or more in infrastructure. Replacing those plants w

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
Obama is only up 3 points in the average of national polls, still within the margin of error. McCain has obviously been convinced by Bernanke and Paulson that the threat of an economic meltdown is very real. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Zaphod wrote: > http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2

Re: Lindsay Lohan and Clay Aiken

2008-09-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
Hey, the 3 digit channels on your cable box dont COUNT. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Rastafari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a TON. TON. LOADS. > hoards of them. and im not kidding. > > not that they are gay, lesbian or whatever, just that they are into SEX > and sex doesnt mean FNCKING, it me

I beleive some members of the list will enjoy this...

2008-09-24 Thread Ian Skinner
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Re: Lindsay Lohan and Clay Aiken

2008-09-24 Thread Rastafari
a TON. TON. LOADS. hoards of them. and im not kidding. not that they are gay, lesbian or whatever, just that they are into SEX and sex doesnt mean FNCKING, it means, whatever it means to them... but they are INTO whatever, and by whatever gender... im serious... On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:45 PM,

Re: Lindsay Lohan and Clay Aiken

2008-09-24 Thread Loathe
I disagree, maybe it's where you live, but in NY, DC, all the cities I've lived in, even here I've known a ton of bi-girls. Beth Fleischer wrote: >> ill say this... >> >> most women could be bi-sexual. >> most. >> >> to them, sex isnt like it is to us men. its diff. >> and they all have the capab

Re: Lindsay Lohan and Clay Aiken

2008-09-24 Thread Tony
nada. ive got a LOT of empirical evidence, loads of testimony, and loads of personal experience. -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Beth Fleischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ill say this... >> >

Re: Here Come The Racists

2008-09-24 Thread Sam
About time. So far Obama is the only one claiming everyone is racist. Now they finally found one. Hmmm, I wonder if it's Axelrod is astroturfing again. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The president of George Fox University this morning denounced the > hang

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Isn't there a major protests or something stopping us from actually getting access to the natural gas that we have available? I was in the doctors office and saw fox news (first time) and they were saying how we buy natural gas from Mexico because we don't get it ourselves. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Sam
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/05/20/obamas_coal_stance_in_kentucky.html On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If they actually "put it back ok", then i dont think most people would mind. > > But read about the health effects of everyone downst

Here Come The Racists

2008-09-24 Thread Gruss Gott
The president of George Fox University this morning denounced the hanging of a likeness of U.S. Sen. Barack Obama on campus along with graffiti aimed at minority recipients of a scholarship program. President Robin Baker discussed the incident today during the twice-weekly campus service, which wa

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dino wrote: > I'd love safe nuclear. I'd love wind and solar. The problem is education and > investment. Natural Gas? America is the Saudi Arabia of NG. Cars run on it, you can store and transport it cheaply, doesn't need much refining, it's clean, burns clean, and can be drilled vs. mined. J

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Your saying Bush wanted to do something good? Blasphemy! :) Remember Bush's "Clean Skies" initiative from his first 100 days? Remember > when Cheney canceled it all? > > Ah, the first 100 days. > > *sniff* > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion

Re: Lindsay Lohan and Clay Aiken

2008-09-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
S. You'll break the mood On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Beth Fleischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ill say this... > > > > most women could be bi-sexual. > > most. > > > > to them, sex isnt like it is to us men. its diff. > > and they all have the capability for girl girl action, im FULL

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
We went the other way on that one. We put "these people" into the president's inner staff (remember those meetings we arent allowed to know about)? And we put them in charge of policy at the EPA (so much so that even a hardcore republican, Whitman, quit in protest). Remember Bush's "Clean Skies" i

Re: Lindsay Lohan and Clay Aiken

2008-09-24 Thread Beth Fleischer
> ill say this... > > most women could be bi-sexual. > most. > > to them, sex isnt like it is to us men. its diff. > and they all have the capability for girl girl action, im FULLY convinced. Wishful thinking. ~| Adobe® ColdF

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Michael Dinowitz
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If they actually "put it back ok", then i dont think most people would > mind. > > But read about the health effects of everyone downstream from the tailings. > And read about how the coal companies are structured. the act

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Greg Morphis
Or maybe, just maybe he's concerned for his country? I know it's a stretch, but none of us know him.. he may be a snake, most politicians are, but no one knows if it is or if it isn't his reasoning for postponing his campaign.. I'm sure it's playing at least a part of it.. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I'd love safe nuclear. I'd love wind and solar. The problem is education and investment. A wind farm is planned off the NY shore. Investment is being made in solar and alternative energy sources. It just takes time and resources. The resources have been put into place and its moving. It just takes

Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Paul Ihrig
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Re: McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Erika L. Walker
pah! I beat you ... :P /me runs On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/24/mccain-suspends-campaign-calls-for-first-debate-to-be-delayed/ > > gee, could he be doing this since Obama has jumped out in the poll

McCain postpones campaign

2008-09-24 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/24/mccain-suspends-campaign-calls-for-first-debate-to-be-delayed/ gee, could he be doing this since Obama has jumped out in the polls over this very issue? :) -- Don’t waste your time on jealousy; sometimes you’re ahead; sometimes you’re behind; t

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Scott Stewart
Strip mining isn't the only way to get at it, they've been tunnel mining for centuries, and that lessens the environmental impact. Coal is a temporary and somewhat archaic solution, I'd much rather see the effort being thrown at safe nuclear power Michael Dinowitz wrote: > But when they're done

Re: McCain suspends campaign ...

2008-09-24 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Republican presidential candidate John McCain is reportedly suspending his > campaign to return to Washington, D.C. for bailout talks, according to FOX > News and NBC News. > > FOX News reports McCain is asking for Friday's presidential debate in > Oxford, Mississippi to be postponed to help focu

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
If they actually "put it back ok", then i dont think most people would mind. But read about the health effects of everyone downstream from the tailings. And read about how the coal companies are structured. the actual mines are held and operated by very small holding companies, many if not most "g

McCain suspends campaign ...

2008-09-24 Thread Erika L. Walker
Ha! Not quite what some of you may have hoped for ... http://www.kypost.com/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=8dd86259-503b-4713-bd6e-456ec0ebd16b Republican presidential candidate John McCain is reportedly suspending his campaign to return to Washington, D.C. for bailout talks, according to FO

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Michael Dinowitz
But when they're done they are mandated to repair the area. If we dig for coal we'll hurt the environment. Even if we repair the environment later, the environmentalists are against the first hand hurting. Even if not digging for coal will hurt America. So bottom line is that the environment is wor

Agreement Reached on Internet Royalties

2008-09-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
http://www.slyck.com/story1768_Agreement_Reached_on_Internet_Royalties "Limited download and interactive streaming services will generally pay a mechanical royalty of 10.5 percent of revenue, less any amounts owed for performance royalties. In certain instances, royalty-free promotional streaming

Re: Lindsay Lohan and Clay Aiken

2008-09-24 Thread William Bowen
>> I knew Clay Aiken was gay two years ago.. nothing new. >> > > Did ja now? > > Huh. He--Clay--clearly falls into the category of "You can tell by looking" -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~~~

Re: Lindsay Lohan and Clay Aiken

2008-09-24 Thread Gruss Gott
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Re: Lindsay Lohan and Clay Aiken

2008-09-24 Thread Tony
ill say this... most women could be bi-sexual. most. to them, sex isnt like it is to us men. its diff. and they all have the capability for girl girl action, im FULLY convinced. -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Wed, Sep 24,

Re: Lindsay Lohan and Clay Aiken

2008-09-24 Thread William Bowen
> If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck... it's gay? lol -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8

RE: Lindsay Lohan and Clay Aiken

2008-09-24 Thread Jacob
I knew Clay Aiken was gay two years ago.. nothing new. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck... -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:27 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Lindsay Lohan and Clay

Re: Lindsay Lohan and Clay Aiken

2008-09-24 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Both out in one day. > > About time. > BARF!!! Oh here we go! http://shop.breakbeat.co.uk/pc-2349-9-drumbass-arena-present-fabio-friction.aspx Following our hugely successful mix album from DJ Hype, we return with

Re: Lindsay Lohan and Clay Aiken

2008-09-24 Thread Scott Stewart
uhmm.. Clay Aiken was a big "duh!!!" but Lindsay Lohan? although...depending on who she hooked up with Cameron Childress wrote: > Both out in one day. > > About time. > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most

Lindsay Lohan and Clay Aiken

2008-09-24 Thread Cameron Childress
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Re: It's official Marina Del Rey here i come

2008-09-24 Thread Erika L. Walker
Great stuff bill! http://jeffersonatmarinadelrey.com Which unit you getting! Looks like an awesome place. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Bill Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en-us&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=3221+Carter+Ave+A+Marina+Del+Rey,+CA+

Re: It's official Marina Del Rey here i come

2008-09-24 Thread Erika L. Walker
LOL! ;) On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yeah like six feet and over three dogs > > -- tony > > Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. > -- siddhartha gautama > > > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: It's official Marina Del Rey here i come

2008-09-24 Thread Scott Stewart
man, I wish I could live that close to the beach.. Bill Wheatley wrote: > http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en-us&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=3221+Carter+Ave+A+Marina+Del+Rey,+CA+90292&fb=1&cid=0,0,8626201345625099187&sa=X&oi=local_result&resnum=1&ct=image > > thuis is the place. It's still

Re: Joe Biden - No coal plants in Amerca

2008-09-24 Thread Scott Stewart
Most of strip mining operations I've seen (in the Northeast US) basically knock down entire mountains to get at the coal and/or iron ore. It's not a pretty site and it's devastating to the local environment. Robert Munn wrote: > Have you actually seen mining operations in the US? I've seen surfa

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