Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-03-01 Thread denstar
I think that mostly just goes for these newfangled conservatives :-)p. (not that Rob's one o' /those/) -- Properly speaking, history is nothing but the crimes and misfortunes of the human race. Pierre Bayle On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Maureen wrote: > > The only amendment that exists for th

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-03-01 Thread Maureen
The only amendment that exists for the conservatives is the 2nd Amendment. They wouldn't object if the others disappeared entirely. On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 9:03 PM, denstar wrote: > You don't sweat the trashing of the 4th Amendment, habeas corpus, > etc.. (Not that you were "down" with it, but

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-03-01 Thread Dana
you're bringing facts to an ideology fight. No fair :) On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > RoMunn wrote: > > Here is where your entire argument falls flat. People in the US today > have > > more material wealth than ever before in the history of mankind. Did > wages > > st

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-03-01 Thread denstar
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Robert Munn wrote: ... > > Obama is certainly setting the stage for it. > Obama set the stage? Are you serious? =) You don't sweat the trashing of the 4th Amendment, habeas corpus, etc.. (Not that you were "down" with it, but I didn't see this reaction for that s

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2009-03-01 Thread Gruss Gott
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Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-03-01 Thread Robert Munn
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Gruss wrote: > > > There's a theory that the early 20th century popular romantic > composers like Puccini paved the way for European authoritarian > dictators. > > Both, the theory goes, were able to manipulate people's illusions > about themselves and about their

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-03-01 Thread denstar
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: ... > But it's the 'unsustainable' part I'm starting to wonder about. Me too. Things can apparently be unsustainable for quite a while before they're really unsustainable. Or maybe if we make-believe hard enough, we never have to realize the rea

Re: posturing was (RE: interesting article on suicide attacks and religion)

2009-03-01 Thread Gruss Gott
> TheScout wrote: > be right when the administration is wrong.  Well, I guess as I libertarian I > get to bitch no matter who is in charge :) > I bet you loved Jindal's speech then! As for Pres Obama, if you've got this many material complaints after his 30 days in office then - love 'im or hate

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-03-01 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > have no knowledge. My parents, although still wealthy, gave away most of > their money to charitable causes There's a theory that the early 20th century popular romantic composers like Puccini paved the way for European authoritarian dictators. Both, the theory goes, were able

Re: AGP video card bluescreens/reboots windows

2009-03-01 Thread Vivec
Card is probably not workings *nod* *nod* Failing at a hardware level and causing bluescreen. What is the text on the bluescreen? Does it point to a driver or something? 2009/3/1 Matthew Smith : > > I am trying to use an old unknown agp video card I had lying around since it > has dvi and might

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-03-01 Thread Robert Munn
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Gruss wrote: > > 1.) You had 2 parents that loved and cared for you and probably spared > no expense in your k-12 education My mother and father divorced when I was very young. I was raised by my mother and stepfather, (who I am generally mean when I say "my pare

AGP video card bluescreens/reboots windows

2009-03-01 Thread Matthew Smith
I am trying to use an old unknown agp video card I had lying around since it has dvi and might support the native resolution of my new 24" monitor. Unfortunately, when I put it in the computer, the computer blue screens just as the windows logo appears on screen. In safe mode it begins to load

RE: Monitors! Monitors! Get your cheap monitors here!

2009-03-01 Thread Jim Davis
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Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-03-01 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > too. Isn't that how it works? Sure, I could have finished law school and > gone to work in some meat grinder firm, or I could have gone to work at an > investment banking firm, and made millions. So, 1.) You had 2 parents that loved and cared for you and probably spared no expe

Re: Monitors! Monitors! Get your cheap monitors here!

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Re: Monitors! Monitors! Get your cheap monitors here!

2009-03-01 Thread Ray Champagne
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RE: Monitors! Monitors! Get your cheap monitors here!

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Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-03-01 Thread Gruss Gott
> cHat wrote: > Ahhh! Now I understand what you're saying - you're talking about QUICK > wealth, the kind that isn't EARNED it's GIVEN.  I'm talking about > EARNED wealth, which in my opinion is more valued and more > appreciated. > Exactly. And it's not materially different from, say, welfare.

Re: Monitors! Monitors! Get your cheap monitors here!

2009-03-01 Thread Ray Champagne
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Re: Monitors! Monitors! Get your cheap monitors here!

2009-03-01 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
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Re: Monitors! Monitors! Get your cheap monitors here!

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Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-03-01 Thread Robert Munn
Marxist class warfare philosophy is dead and buried, move on. As to wealth re-distribution, you cite one example of so-called wealth re-distribution by the government - aided and abetted by the Democratic Party far more than Republicans, I will note - and then claim it represents the long-term po

posturing was (RE: interesting article on suicide attacks and religion)

2009-03-01 Thread LRS Scout
Posturing is all you did during the Bush years. And I hated the guy, supported some policies, didn't others. It's our turn to rant, and to often be right when the administration is wrong. Well, I guess as I libertarian I get to bitch no matter who is in charge :) Looks like your USA may try and

RE: Monitors! Monitors! Get your cheap monitors here!

2009-03-01 Thread LRS Scout
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Monitors! Monitors! Get your cheap monitors here!

2009-03-01 Thread Ray Champagne
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Re: interesting article on suicide attacks and religion

2009-03-01 Thread Larry Lyons
>But this list is all about posturing. :) >I'll flag this email as important and will try to contact them. > It should take all of 20 minutes, 15 of those would be going through the university's cheerleadering section. The affiliations of the authors are listed in the pdf. larry

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-03-01 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> If you did that, and had some decent interview skills, you'd get a > Wall St job.  In 2007 at Goldman the *minimum* bonus for > bonus-eligible staff was $500,000.  This meant that if you weren't a > total spend thrift 2-3 years out of MBA school and you were a > millionaire. Ahhh! Now I underst

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-03-01 Thread Larry Lyons
>And if you believe half of that drivel, go and live in Venezuela with the >other fucking socialists. America Love it or Leave it! Almost as good as mentioning Nazis for a threat killer. My my what a witty insightful rejoinder, I am sure he was just devastated by that one. ~~~

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-03-01 Thread Gruss Gott
> grant wrote: > > So to be clear, RoMunn is middle class and Gruss has more than 11 million? > The last box on most investment house questionnaires for net worth (not incl house) is "$10 Million or less". Robert and I would both be checking that box. My point was this: (1.) All of our net wor

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-03-01 Thread Gruss Gott
> cHat wrote: > Over the past 20 years?  Actually, my "net worth" has grown by leaps > and bounds over that relatively long-term period. That's the grift. Pretty clever too, huh? You're in a box, but don't even realize it because you've got 5 more crumbs than you did when you were 20. In the m

Re: Cheifs trade for Cassel, Vrabel

2009-03-01 Thread Rastafari
vrabel is getting older, and slower and the trick play they always use him on is played out... the LAST team i'd be worrying about mgmt-wise is the pats. now, my raiders on the other hand... mmm On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > I disagree. I think Bill was trying

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-03-01 Thread Michael Grant
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Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-03-01 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Factually - not opinion - your class's net worth had DROPPED. > > Factually - not opinion - the wealthy's net worth has GROWN. Over the past 20 years? Actually, my "net worth" has grown by leaps and bounds over that relatively long-term period. Even in the short term period it's gone up. > T