Re: Oops.....

2009-07-20 Thread Maureen
You should all be thanking your lucky stars that you don't own car dealerships. Value of my investment in our family business is down 73% from last September and will probably be down to zero by the end of this year unless something magic happens quickly. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Robert

Re: 9/11 controlled demolition dejavu

2009-07-20 Thread Michael Grant
> ns7 don't.do.it. Just stick to the vinyl. Or get your own acetate press and just make your own. I'm a bit of purist that way. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Casey Dougall < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > > So I'm sitting a

Re: 9/11 controlled demolition dejavu

2009-07-20 Thread Casey Dougall
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > So I'm sitting at Starbucks in Costa Verde (Cam will be familiar with this > spot) and this woman sitting behind me is showing the 9/11 "controlled > demolition theory" videos on Youtube to some Berkeley students home on > break. She shows th

9/11 controlled demolition dejavu

2009-07-20 Thread Robert Munn
So I'm sitting at Starbucks in Costa Verde (Cam will be familiar with this spot) and this woman sitting behind me is showing the 9/11 "controlled demolition theory" videos on Youtube to some Berkeley students home on break. She shows them the videos and I can't help but ask what she is showing the

Re: Police force make terrible mistake lol

2009-07-20 Thread Scott Stroz
Well, for starters, you can see both cop cars waiting on the street until the 'bad guys' get into the 'getaway' car. One of them almost right across the street. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > Scott Stroz wrote: >> Funnytoo bad its obviously fake. > Not that I disagre

Re: It's algae (Re: First the Bloop, now the Goop)

2009-07-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> DualCam wrote: > > http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1911517,00.html > That shit nasty. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archi

Re: Police force make terrible mistake lol

2009-07-20 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > You can hear the director give instructions throughout the whole video ... Yeah and if you read the video comments they also point out that the police cars are parked visibly nearby and only start moving AFTER the bank robbers exit the bank.

Re: Police force make terrible mistake lol

2009-07-20 Thread Greg Morphis
Yeah and at the end you hear "cut! excellent!" On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > Erika L. Rich wrote: >> You can hear the director give instructions throughout the whole video ... > Ah!  So if I had sound on my work computer here I would have known!  Duh :) > > > > ~~~

Re: Police force make terrible mistake lol

2009-07-20 Thread Ian Skinner
Erika L. Rich wrote: > You can hear the director give instructions throughout the whole video ... Ah! So if I had sound on my work computer here I would have known! Duh :) ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with someth

Re: Police force make terrible mistake lol

2009-07-20 Thread Erika L. Rich
You can hear the director give instructions throughout the whole video ... On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > Scott Stroz wrote: > > Funnytoo bad its obviously fake. > Not that I disagree, but why "obviously?" > >

Re: Police force make terrible mistake lol

2009-07-20 Thread Ian Skinner
Scott Stroz wrote: > Funnytoo bad its obviously fake. Not that I disagree, but why "obviously?" ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive:

Re: Police force make terrible mistake lol

2009-07-20 Thread Scott Stroz
Funnytoo bad its obviously fake. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Vivec wrote: > > I spluttered rum and coconut water all over the keyboard with this one :) > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE_-3yNyLUE > > hee hee hee > > ~

Police force make terrible mistake lol

2009-07-20 Thread Vivec
I spluttered rum and coconut water all over the keyboard with this one :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE_-3yNyLUE hee hee hee ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of

Yikes!

2009-07-20 Thread Ian Skinner
Photograph shows a car plowing into a group of cyclists. http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/bikerace.asp ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists

Who's up for some fantasy football?

2009-07-20 Thread Scott Stroz
I set up a league that I was hoping would be used for CF folks. If you are interested, drop me an email at scott [at] boyzoid [dot] com -- Scott Stroz --- The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. - Thoma

Re: Oops.....

2009-07-20 Thread Robert Munn
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Gruss G wrote: > > > * commercial real estate > * credit cards > * prime mortgages > * business loans > > You can expect cycle 2 to begin in a month or two. > De-leveraging is a bitch. Commercial real estate is already getting hammered in San Diego. High end prop

Re: plum

2009-07-20 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> I think Mikey D needs to make an app where we can type in someone's > name and see the last few posts they made to the to the list.  It > makes it easier to see who pissed them off. Heh, that's what GMail search is for ~| Want

Re: plum

2009-07-20 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I think Mikey D needs to make an app where we can type in someone's name and see the last few posts they made to the to the list. It makes it easier to see who pissed them off. On Jul 20, 2009, at 1:13 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > > Last message I can see from either of them dates bac

Re: plum

2009-07-20 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Last message I can see from either of them dates back to the end of November, 2008. Hatton On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Zaphod > Beeblebrox wrote: >> and the CF7Ready tag is a dead giveaway :) > > Yeah - I was looking at the site

Re: plum

2009-07-20 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > and the CF7Ready tag is a dead giveaway :) Yeah - I was looking at the site last night. There is also mention of a class being recently updated for CF6.1 Heh... :) -Cameron ~~~

Re: plum

2009-07-20 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
they're obviously not busy maintaining the productivity enhancement site: "Our new C# & ASP.NET 2.0 for ColdFusion Developers course has been scheduled through Q2 2007" and the CF7Ready tag is a dead giveaway :) On Jul 20, 2009, at 12:09 PM, george.e...@ssa.gov george.e...@ssa.gov wrote

Re: Blasphemy!

2009-07-20 Thread William Bowen
>> Political correctness run amok, or the church trying in vain to save itself? > > "Blasphe-me,  blasphe-you, blasphe-ev'ryone!" - eDDie iZZard, Dress to Kill. "Now, *no one* is to stone *anyone*, until I blow this whistle! Even if, and I want to make this absolutely clear, even if they do say J

Re: Blasphemy!

2009-07-20 Thread William Bowen
> Political correctness run amok, or the church trying in vain to save itself? "Blasphe-me, blasphe-you, blasphe-ev'ryone!" - eDDie iZZard, Dress to Kill. -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~~~

Blasphemy!

2009-07-20 Thread Cameron Childress
Political correctness run amok, or the church trying in vain to save itself? "The new criminalization of blasphemy is not a return to the pious past, but rather is underpinned by a very modern suspicion of offensiveness." http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/7171/

It's algae (Re: First the Bloop, now the Goop)

2009-07-20 Thread Cameron Childress
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1911517,00.html On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > "It's certainly biological," Hasenauer said. "It's definitely not an > oil product of any kind. It has no characteristics of an oil, or a > hazardous substance, for that matter.

Re: Colbert report on Alito's neutrality compared to Sotomayor bias

2009-07-20 Thread Michael Dinowitz
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Dana wrote: > >  But... there are situations where merit and perseverance get you nowhere. I > have seen some. You make it sound like that is all that is ever needed and > sorry, this is not so. If I made it sound like that's all that was needed then my message wa

Re: plum

2009-07-20 Thread george.e...@ssa.gov george.e...@ssa.gov
>What is Plum? And where are the Churvii? (in .Net world?) George ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/g

RE: plum

2009-07-20 Thread Scott Raley
http://www.productivityenhancement.com/plum/WhatPlumCanDo.cfm -Original Message- From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz] Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 1:08 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: plum What is Plum? On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Scott Raley wrote: > > Anyone using Plu

Re: plum

2009-07-20 Thread Ras Tafari
some sort of framework that the churvii churned out a couple years ago... On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Michael Grant wrote: > > What is Plum? > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Scott Raley wrote: > >> >> Anyone using Plum that Mr. and Mr. Churvis put together? >> >> >> >> > > ~~~

Re: plum

2009-07-20 Thread Michael Grant
What is Plum? On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Scott Raley wrote: > > Anyone using Plum that Mr. and Mr. Churvis put together? > > > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the

Re: Colbert report on Alito's neutrality compared to Sotomayor bias

2009-07-20 Thread Dana
But... there are situations where merit and perseverance get you nowhere. I have seen some. You make it sound like that is all that is ever needed and sorry, this is not so. I do agree, I think, that affirmative action should be a temporary solution. My dad has stories of his relatives being tol

Re: Colbert report on Alito's neutrality compared to Sotomayor bias

2009-07-20 Thread Scott Stroz
I think I have done that already. But, again, a good place to start is 'The color of someone skin should never be used as a factor to exclude or include someone from qualifying for a job'. I don't have delusions of grandeur that I have a full solution, but in this case, 'an eye for an eye' does

Re: Colbert report on Alito's neutrality compared to Sotomayor bias

2009-07-20 Thread Michael Dinowitz
> The system was gamed and it needed to be ungamed.  There's only really > one way to do that. I disagree with you that there is only one way to do it. Of course, there is more than one game and more than one system, but the point is the same. To quote superheroes, "you don't fight evil by becomin

Re: Colbert report on Alito's neutrality compared to Sotomayor bias

2009-07-20 Thread Vivec
Great, Can you define that system for us? Even in general terms... 2009/7/20 Scott Stroz : > 2. How about a system where NO ONE gets discriminated against? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let

Re: Colbert report on Alito's neutrality compared to Sotomayor bias

2009-07-20 Thread Scott Stroz
1. Yes I do. 2. How about a system where NO ONE gets discriminated against? On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> Dino wrote: >> >> Gruss, I don't want to get in between you and Scott, but your >> analogies really suck. Massively. Like a quantum level above a black >> hole. >>

Re: Oops.....

2009-07-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: >> You can expect cycle 2 to begin in a month or two. > > I don't think I have ever wanted you to be as wrong as much as I do with this. > I know - we just decided last night to go to cash (CDs) by the end of August at the latest. There are probably a few things we'll leave in the

Re: Colbert report on Alito's neutrality compared to Sotomayor bias

2009-07-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dino wrote: > > Gruss, I don't want to get in between you and Scott, but your > analogies really suck. Massively. Like a quantum level above a black > hole. > Dude. Duh. It's because I'm intellectually lazy. Look, I'm sure there's lots better fluffy arguments but I personally don't need 'em.

RE: video cameras

2009-07-20 Thread Scott Raley
I'm not the one writing the check for this one -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 10:13 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: video cameras On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Scott Raley wrote: > Yes I've seen there stuff but fo

Re: Colbert report on Alito's neutrality compared to Sotomayor bias

2009-07-20 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Gruss, I don't want to get in between you and Scott, but your analogies really suck. Massively. Like a quantum level above a black hole. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > At your family reunion you all agree that the BBQ will be much better > if you have burgers, brats, and ho

Re: Oops.....

2009-07-20 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > You can expect cycle 2 to begin in a month or two. Maybe I will get a chance to buy Adobe at $15 (currently $31) again after all! Awesome! -Cameron ~| Want to reach the Cold

Re: video cameras

2009-07-20 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Scott Raley wrote: > Yes I've seen there stuff but for the price of one camera and converting it > to get it on a PC, I can just go to dlink and get 2 or 3 wireless cameras > and put them on a separate router and segregate what pc's can access that > router. Probl

Re: Colbert report on Alito's neutrality compared to Sotomayor bias

2009-07-20 Thread Scott Stroz
I think you have now officially gone off the deep end. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> Scott wrote: >> You can hang any adjective you want on my logic, but I still fail to >> see how its bad to discriminate against one group, but good to >> discriminate against another. >

RE: video cameras

2009-07-20 Thread Scott Raley
Yes I've seen there stuff but for the price of one camera and converting it to get it on a PC, I can just go to dlink and get 2 or 3 wireless cameras and put them on a separate router and segregate what pc's can access that router. Problem is they look like cameras. -Original Message- Fro

Re: Colbert report on Alito's neutrality compared to Sotomayor bias

2009-07-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > You can hang any adjective you want on my logic, but I still fail to > see how its bad to discriminate against one group, but good to > discriminate against another. At your family reunion you all agree that the BBQ will be much better if you have burgers, brats, and hot dogs rat

Re: Oops.....

2009-07-20 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> Scott wrote: >> >> Yea, umm, do you remember all the stuff we were told was going to >> happen if we didn't pass the stimulus package? >> > > I'm going to tell you secret: we're fecked. I think its cute you think that was a secret. > > Now

Re: Oops.....

2009-07-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > > Yea, umm, do you remember all the stuff we were told was going to > happen if we didn't pass the stimulus package? > I'm going to tell you secret: we're fecked. Now I know in the past I've been Doomy DarkCloud, but ... it's worse than I thought. If you add up all of the unfun

Re: Colbert report on Alito's neutrality compared to Sotomayor bias

2009-07-20 Thread Scott Stroz
I never said affirmative action was racist, I said it was discriminatory. You are using the ends to justify the means. Imagine me saying it was OK to torture Bob, because we got the result we were looking for - that is what you are doing. 'It's OK that we discriminate against some people, becaus

Re: Colbert report on Alito's neutrality compared to Sotomayor bias

2009-07-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > So, you think the solution to discrimination is to discriminate > against those who initially perpetrated the discrimination? > That's exactly it. I get your garage logic view of the World, but there's no better way - if you have one, let me know. The reason is because becoming

Re: Oops.....

2009-07-20 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Side note: Anyone wanna take bets on who will be the first to respond > with 'Just think about how bad it would have been if we did not pass > the stimulus'? Here's an even better response: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/07/labor-leaders-push-obama-for-second-stimulus-package.htm

Re: video cameras

2009-07-20 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Wireless... for a network... not RGB to tv/vcr Perhaps the solution is not in the camera but in the receiver - http://www.homespy.com/usb_dvr.htm http://www.homespy.com/dmrs.htm ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with s

Re: video cameras

2009-07-20 Thread Cameron Childress
I think most covert wireless is going to be a local wireless transmitter that is NOT wifi. you may want to look at the cheapest device that will convert regular video to streaming video and piggyback that to a more traditional covert camera solution. http://www.brickhousesecurity.com/wireless-co

RE: video cameras

2009-07-20 Thread Scott Raley
Store monitoring -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:23 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: video cameras I can't recommend a product, but I'll be damned that you did not pique my interest as to why you want one. On Mon, Jul 20, 2

Re: plum

2009-07-20 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
wow...that sparked some memories :) Never actually used it in a production system. Loved the idea of it...didn't care for the implementation. On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Scott Raley wrote: > > Anyone using Plum that Mr. and Mr. Churvis put together? > > > > ~

Re: video cameras

2009-07-20 Thread Scott Stroz
I can't recommend a product, but I'll be damned that you did not pique my interest as to why you want one. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Scott Raley wrote: > > Okay I need video cameras.. wireless that will hook up and watch from a pc. > I use dlink now the problem is they look like camera's.

Re: video cameras

2009-07-20 Thread Erika L. Rich
Meh. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Scott Raley wrote: > > Wireless... for a network... not RGB to tv/vcr > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing

Re: Colbert report on Alito's neutrality compared to Sotomayor bias

2009-07-20 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Why stop at the 60's? The racism of the 10's were worse. The racism of the 1860's was worse. The 60's showed more promise than any year before it. What would I have done differently in the 60's? Make sure Dr. King was not killed. Make sure Malcolm X, who was a more peaceful and forgiving man after

RE: video cameras

2009-07-20 Thread Scott Raley
Wireless... for a network... not RGB to tv/vcr -Original Message- From: Erika L. Rich [mailto:elr...@ruwebby.com] Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:47 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: video cameras how about a smoke detector http://www.dynaspy.com/product_info.php/cPath/21/products_i

Re: video cameras

2009-07-20 Thread Erika L. Rich
how about a smoke detector http://www.dynaspy.com/product_info.php/cPath/21/products_id/109 On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Scott Raley wrote: > > Okay I need video cameras.. wireless that will hook up and watch from a pc. > I use dlink now the problem is they look like camera's. I need

Re: Colbert report on Alito's neutrality compared to Sotomayor bias

2009-07-20 Thread Scott Stroz
Its a loaded question and only a fool or an egotist dare try to answer it. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Vivec wrote: > > That's not an answer to the question. > > Basically, you have not been able to articulate what you would have > done differently, and what you would Do differently to ensur

Re: Colbert report on Alito's neutrality compared to Sotomayor bias

2009-07-20 Thread Vivec
That's not an answer to the question. Basically, you have not been able to articulate what you would have done differently, and what you would Do differently to ensure that the racism and segregation of the 60s did not happen again. 2009/7/19 Michael Dinowitz : > > Change can come from a revolut

Re: Colbert report on Alito's neutrality compared to Sotomayor bias

2009-07-20 Thread Michael Dinowitz
You don't fight racism by being a racist. You don't fight discrimination by discriminating. The civil rights marches of the 60's was about equal rights and freedoms. It was about lots of people from lots of racial backgrounds coming together to protest and 'force' (without violence) the government

Oops.....

2009-07-20 Thread Scott Stroz
Yea, umm, do you remember all the stuff we were told was going to happen if we didn't pass the stimulus package? Looks like it happened anyway - http://snurl.com/nkwge Side note: Anyone wanna take bets on who will be the first to respond with 'Just think about how bad it would have been if we di

Re: Colbert report on Alito's neutrality compared to Sotomayor bias

2009-07-20 Thread Scott Stroz
So, you think the solution to discrimination is to discriminate against those who initially perpetrated the discrimination? I disagree with the defensibility of the logic and reason behind it. If discrimination was bad before, it should be bad now, regardless of which side is getting discriminate

Re: Colbert report on Alito's neutrality compared to Sotomayor bias

2009-07-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > So, to be clear, it would be bad for me to get a job solely because I > am white, but its good if I don't get a job solely because I am white? >  Is that what you are saying? Yes, that's what *I'm* saying. > If it is wrong for a person to not get a job because they are not > wh

video cameras

2009-07-20 Thread Scott Raley
Okay I need video cameras.. wireless that will hook up and watch from a pc. I use dlink now the problem is they look like camera's. I need something that doesn't look like a camera but will hook up to my network and I can watch/record using a pc.. everything I've found that doesn't look like a ca