Re: (ot) presenting a file for download in javascript

2009-09-14 Thread denstar
A quick and dirty solution may be the use of http headers: [do counter stuff, careful not to output anything to the browser]; header("location:www.link-location/path/to/file"); But if they have redirects turned off that won't work. Hrm. Actually, I don't see why you couldn't direct them to the

Re: (ot) presenting a file for download in javascript

2009-09-14 Thread Maureen
That's exactly what i want to do. but this part: have counter logic actually start the download has be stumped. I'll look at the links. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:50 PM, denstar wrote: > > Maybe change the download link to go to the counter logic, and then > the counter logic actually start t

This is Hilarious ...

2009-09-14 Thread Gruss Gott
and, thus, nsfw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXfGJghh1GM ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf

Re: Patrick Swayze (1952-2009)

2009-09-14 Thread Scott Stroz
Nobody puts baby in a corner. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:22 PM, denstar wrote: > > Here's to dancing, dirty or otherwise.  We need more of it. > > -- > We are all human, and caring about the way something looks and feels > does not mean we're superficial--it means we're human. We don't need > to

Re: Patrick Swayze (1952-2009)

2009-09-14 Thread Erika L. Rich
++1 On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:22 PM, denstar wrote: > > Here's to dancing, dirty or otherwise. We need more of it. > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House o

Re: Patrick Swayze (1952-2009)

2009-09-14 Thread denstar
Here's to dancing, dirty or otherwise. We need more of it. -- We are all human, and caring about the way something looks and feels does not mean we're superficial--it means we're human. We don't need to exploit sex to recognize that a certain amount of sexiness is both pleasurable and natural.

Re: musings on 9/11, eight years later

2009-09-14 Thread denstar
:) I'm a good burster, not usually so much on the eloquence thing. -- To be in love Is to touch with a lighter hand. In yourself you stretch, you are well. Gwendolyn Brooks On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Dana wrote: > > and denny burst into eloquence. ~~~

Re: Patrick Swayze (1952-2009)

2009-09-14 Thread denstar
:( On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/14/patrick-swayze-dies/ > > :( ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the Hou

Re: Dr Who

2009-09-14 Thread denstar
Now I'm burning to fold laundry and slap some of the new ones in. They mostly be sitting on the shelf, currently :(. My "kick ass dude" card should be revoked for sins such as this. /me holds out the card -- Everything that is really great and inspiring is created by the individual who can la

Patrick Swayze (1952-2009)

2009-09-14 Thread Erika L. Rich
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/14/patrick-swayze-dies/ :( ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com

Re: musings on 9/11, eight years later

2009-09-14 Thread Dana
and denny burst into eloquence. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 7:05 PM, denstar wrote: > > Oh, I didn't really change the subject. When I think of 9/11, it's > more than just the trauma and amazing heroism and whatnot we > experienced that day. Still. > > It's all important, Sam. History is, like,

Re: (ot) presenting a file for download in javascript

2009-09-14 Thread Dana
all files by that specific user? On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I have this button to click to download a file, and an href that > points to the file for manual download or to our client for auto > download and install. If you click the button the download dialogue > box

Re: CF Error

2009-09-14 Thread denstar
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Scott Raley wrote: > > Contact me off list Don't do it, it's a trick! -- I think it is good that books still exist, but they do make me sleepy. Frank Zappa ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion c

Re: musings on 9/11, eight years later

2009-09-14 Thread denstar
Oh, I didn't really change the subject. When I think of 9/11, it's more than just the trauma and amazing heroism and whatnot we experienced that day. Still. It's all important, Sam. History is, like, "working smarter, not harder". "Some of us" (heh) don't change our principles with the presid

Re: (ot) presenting a file for download in javascript

2009-09-14 Thread denstar
Maybe change the download link to go to the counter logic, and then have the counter logic actually start the download? I'm not immersed in PHP at the moment, so no code, but maybe something like this: http://mikeleigh.com/dev/downloadcounter/ Force be with you Maureen! And while I'm no expert

(ot) presenting a file for download in javascript

2009-09-14 Thread Maureen
I have this button to click to download a file, and an href that points to the file for manual download or to our client for auto download and install. If you click the button the download dialogue box pops up so the file can be downloaded. However I need to update the database with a count of a

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Maureen
It's actually a very easy task. Are their lips moving? Then they're lying. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > It think its quite easy.  we need to educate voters so they know when > politicians are lying

RE: CF Error

2009-09-14 Thread Scott Raley
Contact me off list -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 6:03 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: CF Error Absolutely. Work...it's what I do. On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Scott Raley wrote: > > You want another site? > > -

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Dana
of *course* On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Sam wrote: > > Pretty damn good actually. > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Dana wrote: > > > > wow crush them. How has that worked out for us, Sam? > > > > ~| Want to reach th

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Sam
Pretty damn good actually. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Dana wrote: > > wow crush them. How has that worked out for us, Sam? > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Dana
wow crush them. How has that worked out for us, Sam? On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Sam wrote: > > So give them another or crush them? > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Michael Grant wrote: > > > > I hate to break it to you Sam, but Al Qaeda can already claim a major > > victory. > > > >

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Dana
nobody is hating here sam, or was... that's right you are here now. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Sam wrote: > > Why the hate? > Now you're saying all US soldiers that enlisted after 9/11 are > brainwashed idiots? > Wipe the foam from your mouth and think about this, if we walked away > fro

Re: Bush's Report Card In And ...

2009-09-14 Thread Sam
First, we're talking about 2004. Second, I don't think we can ever win in Afghanistan, the most we could hope for is to keep the Taliban at bay. I'm not sure going all in back in 2003 would have changed that outcome. Obama has spent more than all presidents combined in his first six months and w

Re: Dr Who

2009-09-14 Thread Dr. Who
scratch that he only has season 2-4 and it eq 15 gb.. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-commun

Re: Dr Who

2009-09-14 Thread Paul Ihrig
i have them all if you know a place i could put them... for you.. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > I shall. I'm the kind of person that will refuse to read the second and > third books in a series until I've read the first one... even though I've > owned them now for ov

Re: Dr Who

2009-09-14 Thread Dr. Who
i have to agree. he IS missed and i think it's pretty shitty of him to quit. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:32 AM, morgan l wrote: > > David Tennant has to be the best Doctor since Tom Baker. > > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Sam
Then why did the democrats win so many seats? Your theory is flawed. You should not assume everyone thinks like you, very few do. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:24 AM, Dana wrote: > > ok well. As someone who was doing voter outreach in the 2004 election I can > assure you that lots of people read it

Re: Bush's Report Card In And ...

2009-09-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
for one thing I do not think Iraq would have been invaded, thereby taking care of Afghanistan at least 5 years ago. We would have also been far less in debt than we were at the end of the Bush regime. I do not think that such issues as extreme rendition, torture or prisoner abuse would have occurr

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Sam
Whether you supported the war or not, come 2006 Osama Bin Laden called it the third World War. We were fighting terrorist from all over the world that went to Iraq to beat America. The Dems wanted to pull out and walk away leaving OBL and al Qaeda with a victory. There is no denying that walking

Re: Bush's Report Card In And ...

2009-09-14 Thread Sam
Which do you think would have done better and why? On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Really? > > now I am convinced you are delusional. > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Sam wrote: >> >> He was their best guy. After him the next best were Edwards, Obama and >> Hil

Re: musings on 9/11, eight years later

2009-09-14 Thread Sam
What are you talking about? Who said Obama was president during 9/11? On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > Uhm. > > No,  He scolded the idiot bankers who flew in on their corporate jets to beg > for a handout nothing to do with 9/11

Re: Dr Who

2009-09-14 Thread Casey Dougall
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > Well geez. I just watched my first episode ever of Dr Who. The BBC channel > is running a marathon all day, and I went to turn football on this morning > and got stuck in the middle of watching the end of a show... with the > Titanic in i

Re: musings on 9/11, eight years later

2009-09-14 Thread Sam
Hmmm, weren't all those programs legal? Doesn't Obama still use them? If you're going to change the subject to make a point use a real point :P On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:33 AM, denstar wrote: > > Yeah, cuz, like, you only have to worry if you're doing something > wrong, ya know. > > And, you kno

Re: Mother tries to use Facebook to talk with Son at university

2009-09-14 Thread Ian Skinner
Vivec wrote: > And it goes so wrong LOL ! > > http://9.media.collegehumor.com/collegehumor/ch6/6/4/collegehumor.1a01bb46f4aeb2d320116ec428ee5fa5.jpg So why did *this* Greg guy approve the 'friend' of this strange women in the first place? On second though, never mind. ~~~

Mother tries to use Facebook to talk with Son at university

2009-09-14 Thread Vivec
And it goes so wrong LOL ! http://9.media.collegehumor.com/collegehumor/ch6/6/4/collegehumor.1a01bb46f4aeb2d320116ec428ee5fa5.jpg ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House o

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Sam
So give them another or crush them? On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Michael Grant wrote: > > I hate to break it to you Sam, but Al Qaeda can already claim a major > victory. > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with som

Re: Bush's Report Card In And ...

2009-09-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Really? now I am convinced you are delusional. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Sam wrote: > > He was their best guy. After him the next best were Edwards, Obama and > Hillary. > We did much better with Bush. > > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: >> >> Nope, which is why

RE: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Scott Stewart
"I think its funny that the liberals on this list think I am conservative and the conservatives think I am liberal." That would make you uh... A centrist. like most of America -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 --

Re: Dr Who

2009-09-14 Thread Erika L. Rich
I shall. I'm the kind of person that will refuse to read the second and third books in a series until I've read the first one... even though I've owned them now for over 10 years and they sit on the shelf and mock me because I haven't tracked down book one. (don't ask) I think I'll scour the net

Re: Bush's Report Card In And ...

2009-09-14 Thread Sam
He was their best guy. After him the next best were Edwards, Obama and Hillary. We did much better with Bush. On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Nope, which is why I said that the Democratic Party also bears some > blame for thinking Kerry was the best guy. > > I cannot tel

Re: Mother tries to use Facebook to talk with Son at university

2009-09-14 Thread Michael Grant
Smells like 4chan to me. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > Vivec wrote: > > And it goes so wrong LOL ! > > > > > http://9.media.collegehumor.com/collegehumor/ch6/6/4/collegehumor.1a01bb46f4aeb2d320116ec428ee5fa5.jpg > > So why did *this* Greg guy approve the 'friend' of t

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Michael Grant
I hate to break it to you Sam, but Al Qaeda can already claim a major victory. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Sam wrote: > > Why the hate? > Now you're saying all US soldiers that enlisted after 9/11 are > brainwashed idiots? > Wipe the foam from your mouth and think about this, if we walked

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Sam
And he did. You think Kerry or Gore would have kept us safe? Even the left was thankful Gore wasn't president on 9/11. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Dana wrote: > > I said that a lot of people voted for Bush because they believed that he > would keep us safe in a time of war. You said that Ch

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Sam
Why the hate? Now you're saying all US soldiers that enlisted after 9/11 are brainwashed idiots? Wipe the foam from your mouth and think about this, if we walked away from Iraq in 2006 it would have been a major victory for al Qaeda. Why do you think we're still there knowing Obama ran on leaving

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread G Money
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > I think its funny that the liberals on this list think I am > conservative and the conservatives think I am liberal. > Welcome to the club! Just remember, if you've got both sides pissed off at you, that means you are doing it right :) --

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Dana wrote: > > I said that a lot of people voted for Bush because they believed that he > would keep us safe in a time of war. You said that Cheney didn't say that > exactly. (But of course he never did say that exactly, check him out on > Iraqi involvement in 9

Re: Dr Who

2009-09-14 Thread Raymond Camden
I think what I like most about the new series is - it keeps the playfulness of the older series, yet adds a seriousness to it that really adds to the entire story as a whole. It's dark, but not "Lets make it Dark to be more adult and cool." Kind of like how Harry Potter gets dark in a good way as

Re: edgewebhosting/my blog

2009-09-14 Thread Dana
k good On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > > Ok, found out. It's a security thing. I had uploaded a CFM and got > flagged as an attack. Over protective - maybe - but I can see erring > on the side of caution. Will just reupload my CFM as a zip. > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9

Re: Dr Who

2009-09-14 Thread morgan l
David Tennant has to be the best Doctor since Tom Baker. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-co

Re: edgewebhosting/my blog

2009-09-14 Thread Dana
welp I still see your bog but I don't think the post went through unless it's the one that says "testing for ray,please ignore." Try a traceroute. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > > Holy crap. The second I hit submit on my blog entry I lost access. > Ditto to edgewebhost

Re: Dr Who

2009-09-14 Thread Raymond Camden
I wouldn't recommend skipping 2 and 3. They were pretty darn good. Do them in order Erika. :) On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Dr. Who wrote: > > go from the new series one to current four. > guys from 28 days latter was the first new dr. > David tenant just quite after season 4 last year, so th

Re: edgewebhosting/my blog

2009-09-14 Thread Raymond Camden
Ok, found out. It's a security thing. I had uploaded a CFM and got flagged as an attack. Over protective - maybe - but I can see erring on the side of caution. Will just reupload my CFM as a zip. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > Holy crap. The second I hit submit on my bl

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Dana
I said that a lot of people voted for Bush because they believed that he would keep us safe in a time of war. You said that Cheney didn't say that exactly. (But of course he never did say that exactly, check him out on Iraqi involvement in 9/11). I then said a bunch of poor slobs believed his shit

Re: edgewebhosting/my blog

2009-09-14 Thread Raymond Camden
Holy crap. The second I hit submit on my blog entry I lost access. Ditto to edgewebhosting. And this is via the RIAForge box. What the hell. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > Ugh. Well, I just posted to my blog via RDP to RIAForge. Still can't > hit my blog or Edgeweb. >

Re: edgewebhosting/my blog

2009-09-14 Thread Raymond Camden
Ugh. Well, I just posted to my blog via RDP to RIAForge. Still can't hit my blog or Edgeweb. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > Ray, > > Works fine for me... > > I think it's user error.. :) (j/k) > > -- > Scott Stewart > ColdFusion Developer > 4405 Oakshyre Way > Raleigh

RE: edgewebhosting/my blog

2009-09-14 Thread Scott Stewart
Ray, Works fine for me... I think it's user error.. :) (j/k) -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 9:47 AM To: c

Re: Dr Who

2009-09-14 Thread Dr. Who
go from the new series one to current four. guys from 28 days latter was the first new dr. David tenant just quite after season 4 last year, so this years season didnt happen other then a few specials. they have a new guy picked out. http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/ ~~

Re: edgewebhosting/my blog

2009-09-14 Thread Yves Arsenault
The edgewebhosting.net site didn't work for me on first try I tried both that site and your blog pretty much seconds after and then they worked. I'm a bit late responding... Yves Arsenault "Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend". --Martin Luther King, Jr.

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Scott Stroz
WTF is that supposed to mean? I have a closed mind? You are the one claiming that Bush made threats against people's lives if they did not vote for him and refuse to see what he _actually_ said as anything but a threat. You were the one who claimed that people enlisted because Bush said if the

Re: edgewebhosting/my blog

2009-09-14 Thread Raymond Camden
Nice. Anyone want to post a blog entry for me? ;) On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Dana wrote: > > they both work for me > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > >> >> For some reason I can't hit my blog, nor edgewebhosting.net. Anyone >> else having trouble? I've got a wor

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Dana
No *I* apologize. I sometimes forget and try to argue with a closed mind. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 7:27 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > This thread was started because you claimed that Bush threatened > people's lives if they did not vote for him, and you posted 'proof' of > same. You were the one w

Re: edgewebhosting/my blog

2009-09-14 Thread Dana
they both work for me On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > > For some reason I can't hit my blog, nor edgewebhosting.net. Anyone > else having trouble? I've got a work laptop next to me, and while on > VPN, it has no problem. > > -- >

Re: edgewebhosting/my blog

2009-09-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
It may be you Ray. I had no problem hitting either your blog or edgewebhosting. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > > For some reason I can't hit my blog, nor edgewebhosting.net. Anyone > else having trouble? I've got a work laptop next to me, and while on > VPN, it has no

Re: edgewebhosting/my blog

2009-09-14 Thread Scott Stroz
Maybe a router somewhere between you and them is down? On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > > For some reason I can't hit my blog, nor edgewebhosting.net. Anyone > else having trouble? I've got a work laptop next to me, and while on > VPN, it has no problem. > > -- >

edgewebhosting/my blog

2009-09-14 Thread Raymond Camden
For some reason I can't hit my blog, nor edgewebhosting.net. Anyone else having trouble? I've got a work laptop next to me, and while on VPN, it has no problem. -- === Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master Email: r...@

Re: Dr Who

2009-09-14 Thread Michael Grant
I remember the music scaring the hell out of me when I was a young child. I loved it for that. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > > That's new. Wikipedia Dr. Who. It's "ancient" in TV terms. ;) I > watched the old episodes when I was in middle school, late night on > PBS.

Re: Dr Who

2009-09-14 Thread Erika L. Rich
Ahh cool. Now I need to find the time to watch the other episodes I taped. Perhaps it's worth a DVD ... :) I love the BBC channel. They do come out with some good programmes ... On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > > That's new. Wikipedia Dr. Who. It's "ancient" in TV terms.

Re: Dr Who

2009-09-14 Thread Raymond Camden
That's new. Wikipedia Dr. Who. It's "ancient" in TV terms. ;) I watched the old episodes when I was in middle school, late night on PBS. The old series was very well done considering the budget - it really put the focus on the story. I've really enjoyed the new series as well though. It kept the s

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Scott Stroz
This thread was started because you claimed that Bush threatened people's lives if they did not vote for him, and you posted 'proof' of same. You were the one who brought up people enlisting during this discussion. If I misunderstood what you meant by that, I apologize On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:

Re: Dr Who

2009-09-14 Thread Erika L. Rich
I havent a clue ... This one had Kiley Minogue in it if that helps ... hopefully the rest got taped. Haven't checked yet. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > > Did you watch 'classic' or new? Both I think are very well done, but > just curious. > > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at

Re: Dr Who

2009-09-14 Thread Raymond Camden
Did you watch 'classic' or new? Both I think are very well done, but just curious. On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > Well geez. I just watched my first episode ever of Dr Who. The BBC channel > is running a marathon all day, and I went to turn football on this morning >

RE: FW: CANADIAN.... Eh !

2009-09-14 Thread Scott Stewart
+10 Amen -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 7:39 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: CANADIAN Eh ! You ow

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Dana
you are twisting my words. Read what I just said. I know people that did this and so do you. If you want an actual discussion, fine. Otherwise I can just go argue with Sam or with the wall here. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > And they did this because Bush said if the D

RE: Bush's Report Card In And ...

2009-09-14 Thread Scott Stewart
"Until we as voters, decide to stop letting the GOP and the Dems think for us and begin to vote based on the issues that really affect us everyday, we're going keep the same wheel spinning, do nothing and smile about it, bunch of crooks that we have had for the last 50 some odd years." Scott, I

Re: Bush's Report Card In And ...

2009-09-14 Thread Michael Grant
I think Southpark said it best: Blame Canada. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I think your stance is more a deflecting of responsibility than mine. > You are saying the blame falls squarely on the shoulders of those who > were elected. > > All I am saying is that those w

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Scott Stroz
And they did this because Bush said if the Democrats win so do the terrorists? Links? On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Dana wrote: > > there were a lot of people who enlisted because they thought it would help > keep their country safe, that it was threatened by Iraq and that defeating > Iraq wo

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Dana
there were a lot of people who enlisted because they thought it would help keep their country safe, that it was threatened by Iraq and that defeating Iraq would make the US safe. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > It think its quite easy. we need to educate voters so they

Re: Bush's Report Card In And ...

2009-09-14 Thread Scott Stroz
I think your stance is more a deflecting of responsibility than mine. You are saying the blame falls squarely on the shoulders of those who were elected. All I am saying is that those who put him there, in this case since we knew what to expect, should shoulder some (but not a lot) of the blame f

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Scott Stroz
It think its quite easy. we need to educate voters so they know when politicians are lying. Now, that may seem like a daunting task, but there is one sure fire way to know when a politician is lying: their lips are moving. Seriously, though, I am not talking about the normal political shit. I

RE: Bush's Report Card In And ...

2009-09-14 Thread Scott Stewart
Gruss, you pulled out of context, you read the rest of my post, didn’t you? -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:

RE: musings on 9/11, eight years later

2009-09-14 Thread Scott Stewart
Uhm. No, He scolded the idiot bankers who flew in on their corporate jets to beg for a handout nothing to do with 9/11 -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Michael Grant
Hrmff. You're going to have a very tiny voter base if that happens. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > What? > > Are you trying to say I should not believe that I was not one of the > people whose lives were 'threatened' if I did not vote for Bush, or > that I shouldn't bel

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Dana
maybe but there are a lot of them out there. It was probably the most frequent response. Hard to argue you're a democracy when the criterion for citizenship is cynicism and a selective memory. Some people really do believe what the government tells them, Scott. Look at all the people who enlisted.

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Scott Stroz
What? Are you trying to say I should not believe that I was not one of the people whose lives were 'threatened' if I did not vote for Bush, or that I shouldn't believe that I didn't believe it? It was political posturing and pure, unadulterated bullshit. Anyone who cannot see through that shoul

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Dana
ok well. As someone who was doing voter outreach in the 2004 election I can assure you that lots of people read it that way. If you want to believe that you weren't one of them, be my guest. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > That is not what you said. You said people's li

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Scott Stroz
That is not what you said. You said people's lives were threatened if they did not vote for Bush. I do not take that statement as 'threatening my life'. See, I took it for what it was, a political speech, given by a politician. Which means, there is maybe, and this is stretching it, 5% truth a

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Dana
"the terrorists win"??? That doesn't sound scary and probably lethal to you? On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I don't see where it says I would die if I did not vote for Bush > (which is what you claimed happened in the other thread). :D > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:06

Re: just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Scott Stroz
I don't see where it says I would die if I did not vote for Bush (which is what you claimed happened in the other thread). :D On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Dana wrote: > > Bush, Cheney tie Dem win to terrorists / GOP leaders turn up the rhetoric to > stoke voter base > Article:Bush, Cheney t

just for you scott

2009-09-14 Thread Dana
Bush, Cheney tie Dem win to terrorists / GOP leaders turn up the rhetoric to stoke voter base Article:Bush, Cheney tie Dem win to terrorists / GOP leaders tu:/c/a/2006/10/31/MNG1GM2U2M1.DTL Article:Bush, Cheney tie Dem win to terrorists / GOP leaders tu:/c/a/2006/10/31/MNG1GM2U2M1.DTL advertise

Re: Bush's Report Card In And ...

2009-09-14 Thread Scott Stroz
Gruss - I understand what you are saying and, generally, I agree with you. If 2004 was an election between 2 guys who were never President than I would agree with you 100%. However, I think in this case, where people made no secret about choosing the 'best of the bad choices', it is a bit differe

Re: musings on 9/11, eight years later

2009-09-14 Thread denstar
Yeah, cuz, like, you only have to worry if you're doing something wrong, ya know. And, you know, the government needed the power to protect us.  Yeah. And, what, you want to DIE by voting for the other guy?  Maybe get a call at 3AM, and not have some random person know about it? Post-tapping war

Re: musings on 9/11, eight years later

2009-09-14 Thread Dana
FOR SHAME He's not a terrorist so he has nothing to worry about. Right? On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:52 AM, denstar wrote: > > Yeah! Fsck'n non-patriot. What, you hate America or something? > > It's 3 am... do you know where your phone records are? > > ;) > > -- > No wise man ever wished to be

Re: musings on 9/11, eight years later

2009-09-14 Thread denstar
Yeah! Fsck'n non-patriot. What, you hate America or something? It's 3 am... do you know where your phone records are? ;) -- No wise man ever wished to be younger. Jonathan Swift On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Sam wrote: > > I have no tolerance for people like you that politicize this.