Re: Why there is no sign of a climate conspiracy

2009-12-10 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
On Dec 10, 2009, at 9:56 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox > wrote: >> >> I haven't been eitherjust so happened that I got to reading my latest >> "Skeptical Inquirer" and found an article about how the public and science >> agree/disagree with each ot

Re: Why there is no sign of a climate conspiracy

2009-12-10 Thread Dana
well you claim we don't know... just trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. In reality, nobody with a serious bone in their body thinks there's much doubt in my opinion On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Dana wrote: > > So proud of such an ad

Re: Why there is no sign of a climate conspiracy

2009-12-10 Thread Dana
good idea. Go do that. Come back and tell us which is bigger. On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Sam wrote: > > Let's follow the grant money while we're at it. > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Larry C. Lyons > wrote: > > > > simple suggestion, follow who is donating most of the money. The >

Re: Why there is no sign of a climate conspiracy

2009-12-10 Thread Dana
::shrug:: somewhat valid, but beside the point. Air travel exists whether you hold this conference or not. I have not seen (and am not asking for) numbers on emissions from coal-powered plants vs airplanes but... what are the people from the Pacific Rim supposed to do, swim? How many people are t

Re: Why there is no sign of a climate conspiracy

2009-12-10 Thread Sam
Let's follow the grant money while we're at it. On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > simple suggestion, follow who is donating most of the money. The > energy companies and those companies that are responsible for a lot of > the carbon and other pollution are funnelling a

Re: Why there is no sign of a climate conspiracy

2009-12-10 Thread Sam
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > I haven't been eitherjust so happened that I got to reading my latest > "Skeptical Inquirer" and found an article about how the public and science > agree/disagree with each other on certain subjects. > > Regarding climate change

Re: Why there is no sign of a climate conspiracy

2009-12-10 Thread Bruce Sorge
How are all the jets and limo's that are being used for the climate issue in Copenhagen affecting the current situation? Kind of ironic in this day of teleconferencing that they have to waste the energy and pollute the air to talk about what needs to be done about the climate and how to stop pollu

Re: Why there is no sign of a climate conspiracy

2009-12-10 Thread Sam
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Dana wrote: So proud of such an admittedly clueless opinion, I guess you need to be proud of something. > I still have the same position on global warming I did a couple of years > ago. ... > I am sure Sam will now post a series of links which may or may not be

google docs does footnotes!

2009-12-10 Thread Dana
hurray hurray. Yes, I am easily amused, but this does wonders for the legibility of collaborative documents. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists

Re: Why there is no sign of a climate conspiracy

2009-12-10 Thread Larry C. Lyons
simple suggestion, follow who is donating most of the money. The energy companies and those companies that are responsible for a lot of the carbon and other pollution are funnelling a lot of money to the so-called climate change deniers. Far more than what is being given to those legitimately inve

Re: Why there is no sign of a climate conspiracy

2009-12-10 Thread Dana
the conspiracy theorist that sits on my should whispers "corporate ownership of the media." But hey, he thought WMD were a lotta hype too, so On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I haven't been eitherjust so happened that I got to r

Re: Why there is no sign of a climate conspiracy

2009-12-10 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I haven't been eitherjust so happened that I got to reading my latest "Skeptical Inquirer" and found an article about how the public and science agree/disagree with each other on certain subjects. Regarding climate change: Warming is due to human activity - Public 49% Scientists - 84% Warmi

Re: Why there is no sign of a climate conspiracy

2009-12-10 Thread Dana
mmm. I have not really been following this because honestly, this smells like fake controversy to me. There is other science that says there is climate change, yes? There are Tuvalu and Fiji that say they are worried about even surviving. There are Alaskan tribes that say their lifestyle is disapp

Re: Tron, the sequel.

2009-12-10 Thread Cameron Childress
Preview here... http://www.apple.com/trailers/disney/tronlegacy/ -Cameron On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > Coming to a theater near you, a year from now.  In 3D! > > I don't know whether to be intrigued or to run screaming into the hills > to hide?  Maybe bot ~~

Re: Tron, the sequel.

2009-12-10 Thread Michael Grant
The original still makes me want to puke a little in my mouth. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups

Tron, the sequel.

2009-12-10 Thread Ian Skinner
Coming to a theater near you, a year from now. In 3D! I don't know whether to be intrigued or to run screaming into the hills to hide? Maybe both. http://news.cnet.com/2300-11386_3-10002008-1.htm On Dec. 17, 2010, Disney will release Tron: Legacy, the long, long-awaited sequel to the cult hi

Decade's end: Most annoying things the Web offered (images)

2009-12-10 Thread Ian Skinner
http://news.cnet.com/2300-1023_3-10002005.html There was a lot of brilliant, groundbreaking innovation to emerge on the Web in the '00s. There was also a lot that, well, wasn't. And to give those digital train wrecks their proper place in the sun, we present to you the 10 most annoying things

KC Secret Santa

2009-12-10 Thread G Money
I pass this on every year as Christmas time approachesand now is that time :) http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091210/ap_on_re_us/us_secret_santa Always warms the heart. -- You can get killed just for living in Your American skin

Re: I love the Oatmeal

2009-12-10 Thread Ras Tafari
great work. too much to read for me... but great work. ill read it later, when i can, errr, uhhh, stay focused ;) On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > This guy's comics really crack me up. The drawings themselves are great > too. Nice and simple, but lively. > > http://th

I love the Oatmeal

2009-12-10 Thread Ray Champagne
This guy's comics really crack me up. The drawings themselves are great too. Nice and simple, but lively. http://theoatmeal.com/comics/customer_service ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let t

The Gospel According to the the Republicans

2009-12-10 Thread Larry C. Lyons
http://www.bobonline.net/progxiansd/ssj/index.html -- Larry C. Lyons web: http://www.lyonsmorris.com/lyons LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/larryclyons -- The real problem is not whether machines think but whether men do. - B. F. Skinner - ~~

Re: Why there is no sign of a climate conspiracy

2009-12-10 Thread G Money
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Vivec wrote: > > "Clearly, the leaked emails have caused disquiet in some quarters. > There's no doubt there are concerns about the content of some of the > emails – even when you know the way science really works – as laid out > above. The Intergovernmental Pane

Re: Why there is no sign of a climate conspiracy

2009-12-10 Thread Dana
discussion? On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Sam wrote: > > So, you want to ignore everything we've discussed to date and start over? > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:05 AM, Vivec wrote: > > > > > http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18238-why-theres-no-sign-of-a-climate-conspiracy-in-hacked-e

Re: Why there is no sign of a climate conspiracy

2009-12-10 Thread Sam
So, you want to ignore everything we've discussed to date and start over? On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:05 AM, Vivec wrote: > > http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18238-why-theres-no-sign-of-a-climate-conspiracy-in-hacked-emails.html > > We can be 100% sure that the world is getting warmer. > We

Why there is no sign of a climate conspiracy

2009-12-10 Thread Vivec
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18238-why-theres-no-sign-of-a-climate-conspiracy-in-hacked-emails.html We can be 100% sure that the world is getting warmer. We are certain that greenhouse gasses are the main cause of the world's warming "Clearly, the leaked emails have caused disquiet in s