Re: Supreme Court opens campaign finance coffers

2010-01-21 Thread Maureen
Yep. We are not guaranteed the best government money can buy. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > Corporate limits on campaign spending have been eliminated. Hold onto your > hats boys and girls, this campaign season is going to be a free-for-all. > > http://www.usatoday.co

Supreme Court opens campaign finance coffers

2010-01-21 Thread Robert Munn
Corporate limits on campaign spending have been eliminated. Hold onto your hats boys and girls, this campaign season is going to be a free-for-all. http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/judicial/2010-01-21-campaign-law_N.htm

Re: air america shuts down

2010-01-21 Thread Robert Munn
apparently not enough of anybody on the left to keep a radio station afloat, lol On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > just not enough mindless drones on the left to keep a radio station afloat > ;) > ~

Re: air america shuts down

2010-01-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
just not enough mindless drones on the left to keep a radio station afloat ;) On Jan 21, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > the end of the liberal talk radio station: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/business/media/22radio.html > > > ~

Re: out here having fun in the cold california mud

2010-01-21 Thread Dana
that house in the Santa Cruz mountains that I rented for christmas is probably either a) without electricity b) unreachable c) on the roof of the down-mountain neighbor or d) all three On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Dana wrote: > you doing that right now > ? > > Send me your phone number

Re: out here having fun in the cold california mud

2010-01-21 Thread Dana
you doing that right now ? Send me your phone number offlist and I'll call ya ;) On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Wait til you experience your first quake. Fun and games in rock and > roll country. Come up to Alameda and help me move. > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:29 PM, D

Re: out here having fun in the cold california mud

2010-01-21 Thread Maureen
Wait til you experience your first quake. Fun and games in rock and roll country. Come up to Alameda and help me move. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Dana wrote: > > welp between the tornado watch yesterday and the close encounter today with > an artichoke field at a state beach in Monterey,

out here having fun in the cold california mud

2010-01-21 Thread Dana
welp between the tornado watch yesterday and the close encounter today with an artichoke field at a state beach in Monterey, I am beginning to see the wisdom of being careful what you wish for. This is different than Albuquerque, all right.;P ~~~

air america shuts down

2010-01-21 Thread Robert Munn
the end of the liberal talk radio station: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/business/media/22radio.html ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Ar

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Dana wrote: > > I dont see many remarks about cops in general. I see lots of remarks about > this copy and cops like him. > > Remember, there is something like 800,000 cops/ law enforcement agents in USA. It is not the norm, but it still is relevant and they sh

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Dana
I dont see many remarks about cops in general. I see lots of remarks about this copy and cops like him. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:30 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Lived in and been jailed in. > > -Original Message- > From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 9

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Dana
oh yeah. My 15-yo, with lots of karate championship wins, was a handful. Still. Most girls that age don't know much about fighting and haven't done much except perhaps pull hair once or twice. He on the other hand is a trained police office who massively outweighs her and has training and probably

Mango vs BlogCFC

2010-01-21 Thread Judah McAuley
Two tech-related new years resolutions, one of which is to start up a blog again. Do current users have much of an opinion on preference between Mango and BlogCFC? BlogCFC seems a bit more bare bones but it is also written by Ray. I like simple and I like things written by Ray. Mango seems to hav

Re: how many boobs

2010-01-21 Thread morgan l
http://tinyurl.com/yjyx84t 5th result. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Scott Raley wrote: > > Did anyone catch the show on Spike of how many boobs does it take to screw > in a lightbulb? I saw the commercial but didn't see the show. Is it on the > net anywhere? > > > > ~~

Re: how many boobs

2010-01-21 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Scott Raley wrote: > > Did anyone catch the show on Spike of how many boobs does it take to screw > in a lightbulb? I saw the commercial but didn't see the show. Is it on the > net anywhere? > > > http://www.spike.com/full-episode/highs-arrows-bright/35501 ~~~

how many boobs

2010-01-21 Thread Scott Raley
Did anyone catch the show on Spike of how many boobs does it take to screw in a lightbulb? I saw the commercial but didn't see the show. Is it on the net anywhere? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they w

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Maureen
It's not just "these days". My uncle, a tiny little man barely 5 feet tall, was beaten to death by two Knoxville Tennessee cops during prohibition because he was working as a janitor in a speakeasy that was serving illegal booze. There is a certain type of cop that are power hungry and feel thei

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Medic
I'm just messing Sam. I know you were joking. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Sam wrote: > > Does the smiley face give you a clue? > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Medic wrote: > > > > whether Sam is joking or not... it's hard to say. > > > >

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Sam
Does the smiley face give you a clue? On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Medic wrote: > > whether Sam is joking or not... it's hard to say. > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on t

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Medic
Well I'm pretty sure it's obvious I am, based on my last year hanging around here. If it's not clear than you haven't been paying attention Larry. Now, whether Sam is joking or not... it's hard to say. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I really hope you two are just joki

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I really hope you two are just joking. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Medic wrote: > > Yes, we should thank this officer for teaching her a lesson in > r-e-s-p-e-c-t. > > > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Sam wrote: > >> >> Yeah but she'll think twice about disrespecting cops now :) >> >>

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Jerry Johnson
I'd say that most cops are just normal people. But as someone once remarked "power corrupts". Take a normal guy, and give him extraordinary powers, and often he will start to take those power for granted. Just ask the spouse of any congress critter. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:30 PM, LRS Scout

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Actually depending on the situation its more difficult than you'd think. In certain situations, especially when they're beyond hysterical, can be amazingly strong. I've seen a 15 year old girl throw one worker weighing almost twice as much as her across the room. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:55 PM,

RE: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread LRS Scout
ACAB -Original Message- From: Casey Dougall [mailto:ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:21 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Casey Dougall < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Casey Dougall < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > > OH and The 16-year-old Calhoun testified that after Schene ordered her to take her shoes off, she flipped one of them off toward him. She said that's when Schene erupted in anger, hitting her head aga

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Medic wrote: > > Yes, we should thank this officer for teaching her a lesson in > r-e-s-p-e-c-t. > > > "I'd be concerned what she was going to do with the next shoe," said Schene LOL LOL LOL Um, how about finish shutting the dam door to the cell!!! In Wedne

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Medic
Yes, we should thank this officer for teaching her a lesson in r-e-s-p-e-c-t. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Sam wrote: > > Yeah but she'll think twice about disrespecting cops now :) > > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Jacob wrote: > > > > If a law enforcement officer cannot effectiv

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Sam
Yeah but she'll think twice about disrespecting cops now :) On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Jacob wrote: > > If a law enforcement officer cannot effective control a 15 year girl.. then > he or she should not be an officer. > ~~~

RE: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Jacob
If a law enforcement officer cannot effective control a 15 year girl.. then he or she should not be an officer. -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:57 PM To: cf-community Subject: Holding police and law enforcement to a hig

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Ras Tafari
i think we all are hombre... i know i am. i try not to, but its tough. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > YeaI thought about that right after I clicked 'send' and I am > guilty of it as much as anyone I suppose. > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Larry C. Lyons >

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Scott Stroz
YeaI thought about that right after I clicked 'send' and I am guilty of it as much as anyone I suppose. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: >> >> I guess painting with wide brushes is OK as long as it suits your ow

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I guess painting with wide brushes is OK as long as it suits your own agenda. > > Your last statement there seems to fit most people I suspect, or at least many on this list (myself included no doubt). larry -- Larry C. Lyons web: http:

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Scott Stroz
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > The kid was out of line. But the cop was well beyond the pale. He > should be fired but arrested for assault. The rat bast*rd was on a > power trip. its that sort of police officer that gives all others a > bad name. I agree. Though, I do

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Agreed they are the minority. Unfortunately they are the ones in the news too often. A point to ponder, the guy at the center of the Abu Graib scandal, Charles Graner was a prison guard in his other job. Apparently he had multiple charges of prison abuse when he was with the Pennsylvania prison s

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I used to work as a juvie counselor years ago, and dealt with more kids like this than I care to admit. I also had to testify in court about a very similar case back in Manitoba. The kid was out of line. But the cop was well beyond the pale. He should be fired but arrested for assault. The rat b

RE: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread LRS Scout
Lived in and been jailed in. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 9:09 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard Nope, He's lived in Nassau county so he's probably seen it first hand, I

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Sam
Nope, He's lived in Nassau county so he's probably seen it first hand, I have. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I have worked side by side with many police officers in many different > cities and towns.  In my experience, guys like this are a very small > minority. > > Sad

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Scott Stroz
I have worked side by side with many police officers in many different cities and towns. In my experience, guys like this are a very small minority. Sad part is, most people feel like you do because shit like this shows up on the internet. Would it be a safe assumption that most soldiers are li

RE: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread LRS Scout
Bull shit. The sheep dogs that remember they work for us are the small mainority. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 8:06 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard To be fair,

RE: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread LRS Scout
Unfortunately I think dickheads like this are the ones that make up most of law enforcement. People that want control, that were made fun of and beat up at school and stuff. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:26 PM To: cf

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Medic
Of course. The expression "one bad apple ruins the whole bunch" is fairly applicable here, except this it's an increasing amount of bad apples. It just seems that I've seen so many excessive force/abuse of power police videos in the past month that it's blowing my mind. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Scott Stroz
To be fair, the members of the law enforcement community who behave like this are a very small minority. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Medic wrote: > > That's disgusting. What the heck is going on in US law enforcement these > days? > > > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Jerry Johnson wr

Re: Holding police and law enforcement to a higher standard

2010-01-21 Thread Medic
That's disgusting. What the heck is going on in US law enforcement these days? On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > video of a deputy attacking a 15 year old girl in a jail cell > http://www.kirotv.com/video/18813384/index.html > > he has pleaded innocent, claiming that

Re: Planned Verisign outage

2010-01-21 Thread Erika L. Rich
Yeah they verified my request this morning. Installed certs are not affected, you just might not be able to login to manage, revoke, or buy new ones, or use their API. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Certs shouldn't be effected. Certs are checked against a chain that i