Re: and we thought Kansas was bad

2010-02-25 Thread Maureen
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Sam wrote: > I'm no lawyer but I am pretty sure consent is a good defense. Tell that to Jack Kevorkian. > >> Complete red herring in this discussion. > > Got ye some of that weed heh? I live in California. I'm a cancer patient with a prescription. It's legal

Re: and we thought Kansas was bad

2010-02-25 Thread Judah McAuley
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Maureen wrote: >> >>> My bad, it's not assault if you ask someone to do it to you. >> Nope.  Assault is still a crime, even if the person you assaults >> requests to be beaten.  As is murder. > > I'm no lawyer but

Re: and we thought Kansas was bad

2010-02-25 Thread Sam
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Maureen wrote: > >> My bad, it's not assault if you ask someone to do it to you. > Nope.  Assault is still a crime, even if the person you assaults > requests to be beaten.  As is murder. I'm no lawyer but I am pretty sure consent is a good defense. >>> Or we c

Re: and we thought Kansas was bad

2010-02-25 Thread Maureen
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Sam wrote: > > My bad, it's not assault if you ask someone to do it to you. Nope. Assault is still a crime, even if the person you assaults requests to be beaten. As is murder. >> Or we could make it easy to let a woman terminate an unwanted >> pregnancy witho

Re: and we thought Kansas was bad

2010-02-25 Thread Sam
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: >>> Beating someone until she miscarries was illegal before this measure. >> >> Before it was just assault. > > Which is illegal. My bad, it's not assault if you ask someone to do it to you. So it was a legal form of abortion. >> Or what a

Re: and we thought Kansas was bad

2010-02-25 Thread Judah McAuley
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: >> >> Beating someone until she miscarries was illegal before this measure. > > Before it was just assault. Which is illegal. >> This measure is simply a further attempt to to regulate what a

Re: and we thought Kansas was bad

2010-02-25 Thread Sam
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Beating someone until she miscarries was illegal before this measure. Before it was just assault. > This measure is simply a further attempt to to regulate what a woman > can and cannot do with her body. Or what a woman can pay a thug t

RE: and we thought Kansas was bad

2010-02-25 Thread LRS Scout
That's the thing, everyone agrees, so long as it's THEIR morals being put forward. -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:44 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: and we thought Kansas was bad It makes me laugh at my own hypocris

Re: and we thought Kansas was bad

2010-02-25 Thread Jerry Johnson
It makes me laugh at my own hypocrisy, though. I was all hot earlier about the need to impose my morals on others. (I wasn't wrong, but am a hypocrite) Now I am all hot about Utah imposing their stupid morals on others. Jerks. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Beating

Re: and we thought Kansas was bad

2010-02-25 Thread Judah McAuley
Beating someone until she miscarries was illegal before this measure. This measure is simply a further attempt to to regulate what a woman can and cannot do with her body. And I keep hearing all this talk about how Republicans want to avoid a nanny state. Big pile of hypocritical crap as usual.

Re: and we thought Kansas was bad

2010-02-25 Thread Sam
So I guess the thread was poorly worded too :) Abortions are legal but they're very strict. You can't just have one because you want to. But you can go to Nevada, providing you have a license or plenty of water for the horse. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > Well, no o

Re: best pc notebook?

2010-02-25 Thread Robert Munn
So are SSD now reliably faster than HDD? The early benchmarks I saw for SSD were unimpressive given the cost. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox > wrote: >> We recently got one of our execs a Macbook Air with the SSD.

RE: and we thought Kansas was bad

2010-02-25 Thread Scott Stewart
Well, no obviously. But this is a poorly written piece of legislation, it shifts the burden of proof to the woman to prove that her miscarriage wasn't intentional, which is utterly and completely ridiculous. In the case that you mentioned, the girl contracted someone to beat her until she miscar

Re: and we thought Kansas was bad

2010-02-25 Thread Sam
So beating a girl until she miscarries should be legal? On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Its now a crime in Utah for a woman to have a miscarriage. > > http://www.amplifyyourvoice.org/u/AFY_Will/2010/2/24/In-Utah-Miscarriage--Criminal-Homicide > ~~

and we thought Kansas was bad

2010-02-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Its now a crime in Utah for a woman to have a miscarriage. http://www.amplifyyourvoice.org/u/AFY_Will/2010/2/24/In-Utah-Miscarriage--Criminal-Homicide -- Larry C. Lyons web: http://www.lyonsmorris.com/lyons LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/larryclyons -- The real problem is not whether mach

Re: best pc notebook?

2010-02-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
just checked, there is an Oracle 10g release for the Mac. http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/macos/index.html On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I need box that will run Coldfusion server, Railo, Oracle, > MsSqlServer, MySQL, Fedora, Apache, PHP, Avid, Maya, Protools, Ableton

Re: best pc notebook?

2010-02-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
In a nutshell yes. Currently I run JBoss, Open BlueDragon, Railo, CF9, MySQL, Apache, and PHP, some graphics programs and a few other things. You can use VMWare to run the non-mac stuff (M$ SQL and Ubuntu for instance). I haven't tried Oracle yet however. larry On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:36 PM, M

Re: Camcorder suggestions

2010-02-25 Thread Greg Morphis
Yeah, they're back ordered, due 3/25/10. I placed an order for one.. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > That does look pretty sweet. I'd been pondering getting a Flip, a > friend has one and it is pretty nice and we certainly need to get on > the whole movies of the cute 3

Re: Camcorder suggestions

2010-02-25 Thread Judah McAuley
That does look pretty sweet. I'd been pondering getting a Flip, a friend has one and it is pretty nice and we certainly need to get on the whole movies of the cute 3 year old thing. Looks like Pc Connection Express has it for $150: http://www.pcconnectionexpress.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sk

RE: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread LRS Scout
Coming up on 100 years of national socialism now, do we have to start accepting them? Shit way longer than that for the white power white pride crowd. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:55 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re:

Re: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Scott Stroz
So, it would have been OK if it was the norm? Or if the Nazis had been around for a lot longer? On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Justin Scott wrote: > >> It was fine in Germany to kills Jews. Was that OK? > > The examples you're citing don't demonstrate true cultural values.  The > Nazis were an

Re: best pc notebook?

2010-02-25 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > I am not familiar with all of the tools, but I would be suprised if it > couldn't. One other note here - if you have an Apple Store anywhere near you, it would be very easy to bring those questions in and someone there is virtually cer

Re: best pc notebook?

2010-02-25 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Maureen wrote: > I need box that will run Coldfusion server, Railo, Oracle, > MsSqlServer, MySQL, Fedora, Apache, PHP, Avid, Maya, Protools, Ableton > Live, Final Cut Pro and Adobe Creative Suite for Producers.  I also > need midi in and out. > > Could I configure

RE: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread LRS Scout
The Spanish? The Moors? Seems like it's been a cultural norm to me. -Original Message- From: Justin Scott [mailto:jscott-li...@gravityfree.com] Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:53 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: WTF?!?! > It was fine in Germany to kills Jews. Was that OK? The ex

RE: Awesome Color Tool

2010-02-25 Thread LRS Scout
Man that is cool. -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:33 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Awesome Color Tool speaking of an awesome color-related service: http://labs.ideeinc.com/multicolr/ (click on one or more colors o

RE: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Justin Scott
> It was fine in Germany to kills Jews. Was that OK? The examples you're citing don't demonstrate true cultural values. The Nazis were an aberration for a society where killing Jews was not the norm before a certain someone worked up a national frenzy on the matter. That particular group was at

Re: Awesome Color Tool

2010-02-25 Thread Jerry Johnson
That cssdrive is great. I was using this one http://pictaculous.com/ but yours is way, way, way better. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > speaking of an awesome color-related service: > > http://labs.ideeinc.com/multicolr/ > (click on one or more colors on the right.) >

Re: best pc notebook?

2010-02-25 Thread Maureen
I need box that will run Coldfusion server, Railo, Oracle, MsSqlServer, MySQL, Fedora, Apache, PHP, Avid, Maya, Protools, Ableton Live, Final Cut Pro and Adobe Creative Suite for Producers. I also need midi in and out. Could I configure a MacBook Pro to do all those, and if so, how? On Thu, Feb

Re: Awesome Color Tool

2010-02-25 Thread Jerry Johnson
speaking of an awesome color-related service: http://labs.ideeinc.com/multicolr/ (click on one or more colors on the right.) On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:29 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > http://www.cssdrive.com/imagepalette/index.php > > I came across this late last night working. Might be of help to

RE: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Justin Scott
> Are there any moral objective truths that you subscribe > to, Justin? Or can ANYTHING be allowed, as long as it > can be "culturally justified"? (Pure cultural relativism) Sure, but they are more abstract. I believe that murder is wrong (but that applies to my concept of murder which may vary

Re: best pc notebook?

2010-02-25 Thread Maureen
I could, but I have Ubuntu on my cobalt raq servers, so I just keep the Sony for doing data conversions on older databases. Also, it's the only machine I have that still has a working floppy drive. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > You can always drop Ubuntu on that old So

Re: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Jerry Johnson
There are times that I think we _must_ attempt to impose our values on others. Where that line exists becomes the argument. There are things we dislike but cannot fix, there are things we don't follow our own principles on. but there are things that cannot be let stand. It was fine in Germany t

Awesome Color Tool

2010-02-25 Thread LRS Scout
http://www.cssdrive.com/imagepalette/index.php I came across this late last night working. Might be of help to some. Just upload or point to the url of an image and it gives you different color pallets to work with. ~| Want t

RE: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread LRS Scout
According to muslim law woman are not permitted to be married until they are old enough to menstruate. No 9 year old should be having sex, by choice or otherwise. Period. -Original Message- From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 4

Re: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I can, mentally disabled 18 y.o. individuals may not be mature enough. On Feb 25, 2010, at 2:43 PM, G Money wrote: > can't think of an instance where an 18 year old would be immature enough, > and/or a 9 year old would be mature enough, for me to think this would be > appropriate. ~~

Re: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
My "objective truth" is based on whether or not an individual is being harmed. In the U.S., I can't imagine too many scenarios where an 18 year old screwing a 9 year old girl would not, in some way, harm the girl. Even if the girl was in agreement, there would be emotional and psychological h

RE: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Justin Scott
> No, they really don't. I said they're harder to define, not impossible. It would be really, really hard to make a case for rape being acceptable, but as I pointed out in my example, something that we would see as pedophilia and molestation is normal under certain circumstances in other culture

Re: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread G Money
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:47 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Being an objectivist I have no problem with saying some I believe in some > objective moral truths. > I think just about all of us do...it's really, really hard to be a pure cultural relativist. You would have to theoretically allow for the

Re: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Saudi Cleric Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif Defends the Marrying Off of > Under-Age Girls in Saudi Arabia: Atheists, Christians, and Fornicators > Are Responsible for Human Rights Treaties > > http://www.memritv.org/clip_transcript/en/2399.htm

RE: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread LRS Scout
Being an objectivist I have no problem with saying some I believe in some objective moral truths. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 3:27 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: WTF?!?! All of this is a question of cultural relativis

Re: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread G Money
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Justin Scott wrote: > Just as a thought experiment why 18? Is it ok for a 17 year old man to > be with a 9 year old girl? Is it ok for anyone to be with a nine year old > girl? What about a nine year old boy? Is motive important or is it wrong > in all cas

Re: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Jerry Johnson
No, they really don't. Raping a 9 year old is wrong. Wrong. Never right. No matter the culture. As is honor killing, female genital mutilation, genocide, and stealing (like the Traveler groups here in America, or some Ivy Leadue families) On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Justin Scott wrote:

RE: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Justin Scott
> For instance.I would admit to believing that a man > over 18 years old should not be screwing a 9 year old > girl...no matter the culture. Thus I believe in an > objective truth that transcends and supersedes cultural > norms. Just as a thought experiment why 18? Is it ok for a 17 year

RE: strip quotes

2010-02-25 Thread Scott Raley
thanks -Original Message- From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:04 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: strip quotes This is a little late, but gmail didn't give me any mail at all yesterday. Veeerd. Anyway I usually like to use the char code to do thi

Re: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread G Money
All of this is a question of cultural relativism. Either you believe that there exist some objective moral truths...or you don't. "respect their culture" is an important, valid concern...but is it absolute? Most would agree that it is not.and yet we are reluctant to admit that we believe in

RE: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread LRS Scout
You all know I was state for several years, I was lucky to work for Diplomatic Security which is more focused on anti-terrorism, force protection, intelligence gathering and so on. The rest of state is ridiculous. They often believe in peace at any cost. -Original Message- From: Michael

RE: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread LRS Scout
I hate even thinking about that shit. Look up man boy love night. It's on Thursdays btw. -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com] Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 3:11 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: WTF?!?! There are parts of their culture that

RE: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread LRS Scout
No. Women have been kidnapped and sold and nothing was done there. I was there once when 10 western woman's bodies were found in the desert and nothing was done at all. The embassy does nothing for American's arrested there, lets them rot, even if it's on a BS charge. Hell, I was snuck out of

Re: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I don't think the statement was ridiculous. We've gone over this in the past where the state department, in a clear violation of policy, gave the child of an American citizen on American soil over to one of it's Saudi parents without any trial, investigation, or whatever. There are other cases tha

Re: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Michael Dinowitz
There are parts of their culture that is just plain wrong from what we consider a modern civilized point of view. Slavery? Pedophilia? When we catch people doing these things in America, we arrest them. When we catch Saudis doing it in America, their excuse is one of culture. But I guess we can im

RE: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Justin Scott
> of course, you wouldn't call Saudi's who said "respect their > culture and don't impose our cultural values on them" > apologists then would you? Apologist isn't even the right word, in my opinion. Cultural relativist is much more accurate. Judge each culture according to its own traditions,

Re: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Jerry Johnson
I think that is a bit ridiculous, don't you? On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Michael Dinowitz < mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote: > > Even the state department bows down and betrays American citizens to the > Saudis. > > ~|

Re: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Michael Dinowitz
They're already trying to impose their culture on us. The UN 'bill' to block speech that upsets people of a religious persuasion? The thousands of mosques that they finance where Wahabism is being taught and hate speech, ideas, and writings come up on a not so rare basis. Everyone talks about the

Re: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
exactly. I'm just stating, in Mike's eyes, I must be an apologist because I don't want to impose my culture on them, but he probably wouldn't call my analog in the islamic world an apologist. It all depends on whose values you think are qualified to be imposed on others. On Feb 25, 2010, at

Re: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Sam
A lie or a mistake? Looks like a drafting error on Ginsberg's part. So she didn't recommend lowering the age, just lowering the punishment On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:43 PM, morgan l wrote: > > Hannity would be proud that people still spout that lie of his. > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Sa

RE: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread LRS Scout
What do you think they are trying to do? -Original Message- From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 2:45 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: WTF?!?! you know, it's a two way streetthey could always impose their cultural values on

Re: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> of course, you wouldn't call Saudi's who said "respect their culture and don't > impose our cultural values on them" apologists then would you? "We are committed to international treaties as long as they do not violate Islamic law. If they violate Islamic law, we should throw them out, because

RE: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread LRS Scout
Ok, so one of us VS. an entire culture of them. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 2:36 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: WTF?!?! Justice Ginsburg suggested lowering the age of consent to 12 On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:24 PM, LRS S

Re: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
you know, it's a two way streetthey could always impose their cultural values on us. of course, you wouldn't call Saudi's who said "respect their culture and don't impose our cultural values on them" apologists then would you? On Feb 25, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > I'm

Re: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread morgan l
Hannity would be proud that people still spout that lie of his. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Sam wrote: > Justice Ginsburg suggested lowering the age of consent to 12 ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with somethi

RE: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread LRS Scout
You're surprised? Mohammed married a nine year old girl, and had sex with her before her period started, against his own rules. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 2:09 PM To: cf-community Subject: WTF?!?! Saudi Cle

Re: some interesting comments about climate change deniers by author and scientist David Brin

2010-02-25 Thread Sam
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > And what is your education monkey boy? Monkey boy:) That's funny every time you say it. Now this is a good read: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/02/25/judith-i-love-ya-but-youre-way-wrong/#more-16698 ~~

Re: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Sam
Justice Ginsburg suggested lowering the age of consent to 12 On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:24 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > You're surprised? > > Mohammed married a nine year old girl, and had sex with her before her > period started, against his own rules. >

Re: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I'm not really understanding your disbelief. This is nothing new. Not only has it been going on for ages, but it's been in the news for years as well. OK, not the mainstream news, but... He's not a freak or anyone in the extreme. This feeling can be heard from the tip of Africa to the top of Egyp

Re: some interesting comments about climate change deniers by author and scientist David Brin

2010-02-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
btw while I may not be a climate scientist, this writer knows something about it: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=seven-answers-to-climate-contrarian-nonsense On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > no but I can comment on theoretic integration attempts, or the

Re: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Jerry Johnson
There you go again, taking his statements out of context. He SAID, at the end "...with all due respect." "Who is responsible for the human rights and international treaties? The atheists, the Christians, and the fornicators, with all due respect." So... =) Yeah, he's a freak. On Thu, Feb 2

Re: WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Scott Stroz
wowjust.wow On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > >  Saudi Cleric Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif Defends the Marrying Off of > Under-Age Girls in Saudi Arabia: Atheists, Christians, and Fornicators > Are Responsible for Human Rights Treaties > > http://www.memritv.org/clip_tr

Re: some interesting comments about climate change deniers by author and scientist David Brin

2010-02-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
no but I can comment on theoretic integration attempts, or the combining of independent research as is being attempted. Last I checked the maths do not care what area of scientific research they come from. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > No, but you did say 'Bluntly put y

WTF?!?!

2010-02-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Saudi Cleric Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif Defends the Marrying Off of Under-Age Girls in Saudi Arabia: Atheists, Christians, and Fornicators Are Responsible for Human Rights Treaties http://www.memritv.org/clip_transcript/en/2399.htm -- Larry C. Lyons web: http://www.lyonsmorris.com/lyons LinkedIn:

Re: some interesting comments about climate change deniers by author and scientist David Brin

2010-02-25 Thread Scott Stroz
No, but you did say 'Bluntly put you do not have any degree of expertise in this area. You are not qualified to comment at all quite frankly.' Given that you admit you do not have any degree of expertise in climate science, by your own words, you are also not qualified to comment on it. Just say

Re: some interesting comments about climate change deniers by author and scientist David Brin

2010-02-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You're proving Brin's points I see. Bluntly put you do not have any degree of expertise in this area. You are not qualified to comment at all quite frankly. Moreover instead of addressing the points brought up you insult and prevaricate. You've demonstrated time and time again you have shown a

Re: some interesting comments about climate change deniers by author and scientist David Brin

2010-02-25 Thread Judah McAuley
I worked in a lab that was the first to show physiological evolutionary responses to warming climate. But, no, I'm not a climatologist. I do have a fairly keen understanding of the difference between good science and bad science though. Judah On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Scott Stroz wrote

Re: some interesting comments about climate change deniers by author and scientist David Brin

2010-02-25 Thread Scott Stroz
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > Bluntly put you do not have any degree of expertise in this area. You > are not qualified to comment at all quite frankly. Does anyone on this list really have enough of a degree of expertise that would make them qualified to comment? -

Re: some interesting comments about climate change deniers by author and scientist David Brin

2010-02-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
And what is your education monkey boy? did you even graduate from university? On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Sam wrote: > > If you had a clue you might have received that PHD. > Just saying. > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: >> >> I told my grad committee to piss off

Re: some interesting comments about climate change deniers by author and scientist David Brin

2010-02-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I never said I was. But I understand the process, and also how the integration of the data from independent studies works. So in that area I am better qualified than most. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > So, you admit you are not a climate scientist? That would mean, by >

Re: some interesting comments about climate change deniers by author and scientist David Brin

2010-02-25 Thread Sam
WTF? I have ten years experience as a Climatologist... no wait, that's my other user. NM You post nonsense about how stupid people are for not believing what you believe. You have no data because it's all proven to be bogus so you find an asshole that looks down on all the real scientists and ca

Re: some interesting comments about climate change deniers by author and scientist David Brin

2010-02-25 Thread Scott Stroz
So, you admit you are not a climate scientist? That would mean, by your definition, you are not qualified to comment either. Unless of course that only holds true for people who do not hold the same opinion as you. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I told my grad commit

Re: drop shipping wholesalers

2010-02-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I completely misread this as drop kicking wholesalers. larry On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Matthew Smith wrote: > > I'm looking to play with selling stuff on Ebay.  Anyone have experience with > drop shipping wholesalers?  Any recommendations?  Anything to look out for? > > Thanks. > > >

Re: some interesting comments about climate change deniers by author and scientist David Brin

2010-02-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Same here, I may not be a climate scientist, but I am trained well enough to know what is good scientific research and what is crud. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > But, no, I'm not a climatologist. I do have a fairly keen > understanding of the difference between good s

Re: some interesting comments about climate change deniers by author and scientist David Brin

2010-02-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I told my grad committee to piss off during my dissertation defense and walked out. One of the areas i did a lot of work in was in statistics and meta-analysis - integrating independent research that addresses a related set of questions. So I know something about the overall picture at least and

Re: some interesting comments about climate change deniers by author and scientist David Brin

2010-02-25 Thread Sam
If you had a clue you might have received that PHD. Just saying. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I told my grad committee to piss off during my dissertation defense > and walked out. > > One of the areas i did a lot of work in was in statistics and > meta-analysis - in

Re: some interesting comments about climate change deniers by author and scientist David Brin

2010-02-25 Thread Sam
Summary: You lost the argument so you're calling everyone that wasn't fooled like you an idiot. Get a life. Let's see his list of scientists (99%) that support GCC. Top dog on that list, Phil Jones, changed his tune and said that earth hasn't warmed in 15 years and isn't as warm as mid-evil warmi

Re: best pc notebook?

2010-02-25 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
We recently got one of our execs a Macbook Air with the SSD. It FLIES! On Feb 25, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > I'm actually considering getting a solid state drive in it too, which > should speedup alot of things quite a bit. I am frequently starting > up and shutting down var

Re: best pc notebook?

2010-02-25 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > Use VMWare Fusion not Parallels - much better and there are a lot of > virtual machines available for it on the VMWare site. Yes, I definitely intend on selecting the best VM engine. I know alot of people have suggested I *not* use paral

Re: best pc notebook?

2010-02-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
haven't had the opportunity yet to do try it out. You volunteering? On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > I've been curious how well virtualbox works on mac.   It's great on my ubuntu > box and it's free! > > The newest vmware is pretty slick with it's integration thoug

Re: best pc notebook?

2010-02-25 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I've been curious how well virtualbox works on mac. It's great on my ubuntu box and it's free! The newest vmware is pretty slick with it's integration though. On Feb 25, 2010, at 10:24 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Use VMWare Fusion not Parallels - much better and there are a lot of > virt

Re: best pc notebook?

2010-02-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Use VMWare Fusion not Parallels - much better and there are a lot of virtual machines available for it on the VMWare site. Also while I don't have the hard data for it, working on both PC's and my ancient black MacBook, running CF, MySQL and CFEclipse/Builder seem a lot faster on the Mac. On Thu

some interesting comments about climate change deniers by author and scientist David Brin

2010-02-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2010/02/real-struggle-behind-climate-change-war.html http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2010/02/distinguishing-climate-deniers-from.html His comments in the first one I think are really telling, -- That is because science itself is the main issue: its relevance and utili

Re: best pc notebook?

2010-02-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
FWIW they've just released a new 18" version: http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Configurators.aspx?mid=500 Mind you, its expensive ($2400). On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > they're a small company, mostly building gaming machines. For their > desktop they use water cooling

Re: best pc notebook?

2010-02-25 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > the macbookpro is the coolest laptop out there, no doubt. naomi has > the 17" model, it's really sweet. but i'm not buying anything from > apple, screw them. Down with the man! -Cameron ...

Re: best pc notebook?

2010-02-25 Thread Robert Munn
the macbookpro is the coolest laptop out there, no doubt. naomi has the 17" model, it's really sweet. but i'm not buying anything from apple, screw them. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:03 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > I know you're asking about PC laptops, but my next laptop will be a > Mac.  You c

Re: Camcorder suggestions

2010-02-25 Thread Paul Ihrig
well for what you are looking for. is exactly what i am looking for. i am sold on the zi8 full 1080p quick time format also hear people are using it as a portable HD playback device http://www.amazon.com/Using-Zi8-HD-Video-Player/forum/Fx2VMV1QKVDM9OA/TxGRKIMIPWYBXW/1?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B00

Re: Camcorder suggestions

2010-02-25 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
that makes senseI thought you were going to be using it as your sole camcorder. On Feb 25, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Greg Morphis wrote: > > Sure, I've got a Nikon D60 for stills, a Cannon Mini-DV camcorder for > decent video but I want something I can get quick that's not bulky and > can record

Re: Camcorder suggestions

2010-02-25 Thread Greg Morphis
Sure, I've got a Nikon D60 for stills, a Cannon Mini-DV camcorder for decent video but I want something I can get quick that's not bulky and can record all the amazing things I'm going to love watching my son do. I don't want to have to pull out the cannon, make sure it's charged, pop in a new min

Re: Camcorder suggestions

2010-02-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
As an alternative, and if you're willing to spend the money, look at a Nikon D90 digital camera. Not only does it do excellent digital images, you can also record HD video. Mind you its a bit more expensive than $150. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Paul Ihrig wrote: > > saw it at target for 15

Re: best pc notebook?

2010-02-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
they're a small company, mostly building gaming machines. For their desktop they use water cooling across the board, and encourage overclocking. there's a lot of nice little touches throughout. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:01 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > Nice system. I've never even heard of iBUYPOWE

Re: strip quotes

2010-02-25 Thread Medic
This is a little late, but gmail didn't give me any mail at all yesterday. Veeerd. Anyway I usually like to use the char code to do this stuff. This way there's no probs at all. Like zo: #replace(getpayment.eventtitle,chr(34), "", "all")# On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Scott Raley wrote:

Re: best pc notebook?

2010-02-25 Thread Paul Ihrig
can get a macbook at microcenter for 800 ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.c

Re: best pc notebook?

2010-02-25 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > Opinions about the best in class for current PC notebooks? I've been > looking at the HP EliteBook series, seems very good. I've been > considering a big screen laptop, either 17" or 18", but it seems like > a lot of the top notebooks have 15"

Re: Camcorder suggestions

2010-02-25 Thread Paul Ihrig
saw it at target for 150. no these do not compare to all the features you get with a full size hd cam. but for ease of use, portability and cost they do the trick. i have a dv cam it does great video. but do i have it on me when my daughter busts a move? no. also for sharing on youtube they can

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