Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Sam
NOT. I told you nit to listen or read him. The report he refers to was from Dec 2009. Orange County just STARTED checking status in March 2010. LA and Ventura Co's started ion May 2009, I don't think they finished yet. Also note, it checks current inmates against passed immigration issues. I'm

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Sam
BTW, aren't most CA prisoners in Arizona? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Sam wrote: > NOT. > > I told you nit to listen or read him. > > The report he refers to was from Dec 2009. Orange County just STARTED > checking status in March 2010. > LA and Ventura Co's started ion May 2009, I don't th

Re: Please keep my dad in your thoughts....

2010-04-29 Thread Eric Roberts
Sorry to hear that Scott...he will be in our prayers. Eric On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > So, we got some updated news on my dad. > > For the last few weeks he has had increased pain as well as a lot of > weakness. Yesterday, he had another chest CT scan and the result

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Larry Lyons
>Just out of curiosity (and I'm not trying to be a smartass) was pre or >post 9/11, because I think the Virginia licensing laws changed after >9/11 > >On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: >> Last time I renewed I didn't have to show I was an American. But I suspect that J-1 visas

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Larry Lyons
I was involved in doing some training development for Immigration before I got into web development. I got very familiar with what ICE personnel can and cannot do. They can detain citizens or resident aliens until they can prove legal residence in the US. Personally I think this sucks, but th

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Eric Roberts
That just made me think of Will Ferrel's character in The Producers heheheh Eric On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > On skates? > > Horrendous. > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Medic wrote: > > > > > How's your goosestep Herr Johnson? > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 29,

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Sam
I thought my wanting you to get a ticket was funny :P On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Dana wrote: > > You know what Sam, you just reminded me of an insight I had from that > stop sign thing -- you have less sense of humor than the California > Highway Patrol... > ~

Re: Please keep my dad in your thoughts....

2010-04-29 Thread denstar
Thanks for keeping us posted. Beaming the good vibes, :Denny -- Individuality is founded in feeling; and the recesses of feeling, the darker, blinder strata of character, are the only places in the world in which we catch real fact in the making, and directly perceive how events happen, and how

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Medic
Damn you Judah for being informed. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/m

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Judah McAuley
They just started checking status on intake in an automated fashion. As you might be able to tell from the official report I linked to, they did a survey of the entire prison population as of Dec 31st 2009. One would presume that they took the list of inmates, ran it through the USICE system, flag

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Dana
You know what Sam, you just reminded me of an insight I had from that stop sign thing -- you have less sense of humor than the California Highway Patrol... On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Sam wrote: > > That's odd since they just started checking status: > > http://www.pappaslaw.com/index.php/

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Dana
I like Negra Modelo. I know it seems like it should be Negro... do not ask me to explain this discrepancy ;) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Negro Modelo is pretty decent, but I wasn't thinking of beer for > Mexico, but rather Tequila. > > Mmmmtequila. > > On Thu, A

Re: Please keep my dad in your thoughts....

2010-04-29 Thread Scott Stewart
"What sucks, for me, is that I spent almost 20 years of my life helping complete strangers, but when my dad gets sick, there is nothing I can do to help." I feel for ya, my dad has Alzheimers and there's not a damn thing I can do about it. It sucks, the only thing I can tell ya is to keep fightin

Re: Please keep my dad in your thoughts....

2010-04-29 Thread Sam
Sorry to hear that. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > So, we got some updated news on my dad. > > For the last few weeks he has had increased pain as well as a lot of > weakness. Yesterday, he had another chest CT scan and the results were > quite grim.  The main tumor in h

Re: Please keep my dad in your thoughts....

2010-04-29 Thread Scott Stroz
So, we got some updated news on my dad. For the last few weeks he has had increased pain as well as a lot of weakness. Yesterday, he had another chest CT scan and the results were quite grim. The main tumor in his chest is larger than it has ever been and the tumores in his liver continue to gro

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Sam
Don't tell me you drank Cuervo ewww On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > tequila = motor oil. yeccchh > > very, very bad experience with tequila.. it's on the pemanent "DO NOT WANT" > list > ~| Want to

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Judah McAuley
I felt that way in college but after a number of years off, I discovered *good* tequila, which is an entirely different beverage than Jose Cuervo. I don't drink much hard alcohol, but good tequila is just yummm On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > tequila = motor oil. ye

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Scott Stewart
tequila = motor oil. yeccchh very, very bad experience with tequila.. it's on the pemanent "DO NOT WANT" list On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Negro Modelo is pretty decent, but I wasn't thinking of beer for > Mexico, but rather Tequila. > > Mmmmtequila. > > On

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Judah McAuley
Negro Modelo is pretty decent, but I wasn't thinking of beer for Mexico, but rather Tequila. Mmmmtequila. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > food, yeah.. > beer I dunno, I think I'd rather drink a Labatts then a DosEquis, > although Negro Modelo is mighty good stuff >

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Scott Stewart
food, yeah.. beer I dunno, I think I'd rather drink a Labatts then a DosEquis, although Negro Modelo is mighty good stuff On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Mexico has much better food and alcohol than Canada, however. And they > have monkeys, which is not something that c

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Sam
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:45 PM, G Money wrote: > > > And my point was simply that Canada doesn't suck, whereas Mexico does suck. Lots to love about Mexico...and hate > Still...you know what's just as annoying as an American who thinks their > country is all great while your country sucks? A Ca

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Scott Stroz
Honestly, I am not so worried about illegal immigrants having insurance so they can drive as I am about illegal immigrants in general. I understand there are a variety of reasons why people come here (legally or illegally) but if you are here illegally, you are breaking a law. That being said, it

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Sam
That's odd since they just started checking status: http://www.pappaslaw.com/index.php/2010/03/17/orange-county-ca-jail-begins-to-check-immigration-status-of-inmates/ And LA last May http://www.correctionsone.com/corrections/articles/1844000-Calif-jails-will-check-immigration-status-as-inmates-a

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Judah McAuley
Mexico has much better food and alcohol than Canada, however. And they have monkeys, which is not something that could be said of either the US or Canada. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:45 PM, G Money wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > >> >> Because Canada is much cool

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread G Money
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > > Because Canada is much cooler than the US? > you mean "colder". And my point was simply that Canada doesn't suck, whereas Mexico does suck. Still...you know what's just as annoying as an American who thinks their country is all great whi

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Dana
snow psychosis On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Medic wrote: > >> why would anyone want to sneak over the border? > > Cheap booze. Cheap cigarettes. Cheap [insert anything here] > > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Dana
that sounds more plausible, thanks Judah On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > And looking at the actual data table: > > http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/capitolalertlatest/USICE2d0912%20(2)1.pdf > > It looks like there are 18101 with definite immigration holds, meaning

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Dana
I don't think my record is particularly spotty but what's this about not giving up the green card? You can pay extra to not do that? Cause it's pretty hard to function without it and assuming I had the cash I would indeed pay to not languish at their mercy while they were processing the applicatio

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Dana
but it makes it *possible* while preventing this ensures that no illegal immigrant with have insurance if they drive On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > To me, driver's licenses are like IT certifications. They do not prove > anything other than you can take a test. > > As f

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread morgan l
Just the bad drivers. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Sam wrote: > > I understand the shooting bad drivers part but why the illegals? > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:12 PM, morgan l wrote: > > > > I don't know about Scott, but I certainly do. > > > >

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Sam
Does that mean you need to own a car first to get a license? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > In Oregon, at least, you are required to have proof of insurance in > order to get a license. I will agree that passing a driving exam isn't > proof that you really are a good d

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Sam
I understand the shooting bad drivers part but why the illegals? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:12 PM, morgan l wrote: > > I don't know about Scott, but I certainly do. > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something the

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Judah McAuley
And looking at the actual data table: http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/capitolalertlatest/USICE2d0912%20(2)1.pdf It looks like there are 18101 with definite immigration holds, meaning that they are here illegally and 4072 with possible holds, meaning they are being investigated, out of a tot

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Judah McAuley
It looks like the current numbers for California are actually about 13% http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/capitolalertlatest/2010/01/corrections-sta.html On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "They've had a gang problem in Salinas for decades, according to the news > here

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Medic
> why would anyone want to sneak over the border? Cheap booze. Cheap cigarettes. Cheap [insert anything here] ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lis

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread morgan l
I don't know about Scott, but I certainly do. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Sam wrote: > > Now you want to shoot bad drivers too? You are such a right winger. > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > I think we have all experienced a lot of people with driver's licens

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
"They've had a gang problem in Salinas for decades, according to the news here. That 50% is a bit eye-popping, you sure about that?" Nope. I am not sure. The number came from the Justice Department. It might be too low. "ok and how does this correlate with illegal immigration please?" Any

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Scott Stroz
If 1 & 2 are accurate, why would anyone want to sneak over the border? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > >>So much of this would be resolved if Mexico didn't suck burro balls. There's >>a reason we don't have immigration issues with Canada >> > > Canada has a better econo

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Larry Lyons
>On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Scott Stewart >wrote: > >> >> did you watch the Caps/Habs game last night and see Ovechkin mail in >> his performance? >> > >Did he really? Wow. > It wasn't just Ovechkin, it was the whole team (he said watching from the stands)... Although last night was

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread G Money
I want to shoot bad drivers I don't mind admitting that. I would shoot every single asshole that I see driving while talking on their cell phone. BOOM! Dead. Man, i'm getting a hard on just thinking about that. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Sam wrote: > > Now you want to shoot bad driv

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Larry Lyons
>So much of this would be resolved if Mexico didn't suck burro balls. There's >a reason we don't have immigration issues with Canada > Canada has a better economy with much lower unemployment rates? Because Canada is much cooler than the US? Because most Canadians who sneak over the border

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Larry Lyons
>I am doing green card --> naturalization, not applying for a green >card, but wow, that's rather breathtaking. No wonder a lot of people >choose snow. > >On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Larry Lyons wrote: >> BTW that fee of $2300 for a vanilla type application is for naturalization. There ar

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Judah McAuley
In Oregon, at least, you are required to have proof of insurance in order to get a license. I will agree that passing a driving exam isn't proof that you really are a good driver. None the less, I'd rather that people at least have that minimal knowledge combined with proof of insurance than to be

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Scott Stewart
uhm.. go to North Carolina for a few days, the only thing that a drivers license guarentees is that you passed the test, kinda like Microsoft Certification. NC does require that you have insurance, but doesn't require that you're actually capable of driving. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Juda

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Scott Stroz
To me, driver's licenses are like IT certifications. They do not prove anything other than you can take a test. As for insurance, having a license does not necessarily mean you are going to run out and buy insurance, Sure, we would like to think that all drivers are responsible like ourselves, bu

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Judah McAuley
No, I don't think it does at all. Because by your analysis, it doesn't do any good to have drivers licenses or insurance for anyone because some people who have licenses don't drive well and some who have licenses don't have insurance. But I think that it is quite obvious that having a drivers lic

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Sam
Now you want to shoot bad drivers too? You are such a right winger. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I think we have all experienced a lot of people with driver's licenses > who, arguably, do not know how to drive. I also have experienced my > fair share of licensed driver

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:50 AM, G Money wrote: >> Why would they leave, they have a perfectly nice home land? > > Because they want to live somewhere where their "home team" can win a > Stanley Cup? > > *ducks* So *that's* why Buffalo has had such a population loss!

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Jerry Johnson
On skates? Horrendous. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Medic wrote: > > How's your goosestep Herr Johnson? > > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > > > > I think I prefer when threads break down into bad name calling, or > > references to former German regimes, rathe

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Scott Stroz
I think we have all experienced a lot of people with driver's licenses who, arguably, do not know how to drive. I also have experienced my fair share of licensed drivers who have not had insurance. So, it kind of shoots that theory in the ass, now, doesn't it? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Jud

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Scott Stroz
Larry, you figured me out. This is all a ploy to get my real agenda pushed through, shooting all illegal immigrants. It is quite leap to go from advocating against allowing illegal immigrants to get driver's licenses and advocating that we shoot them all. Why is it that whenever you go against ei

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Medic
How's your goosestep Herr Johnson? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > I think I prefer when threads break down into bad name calling, or > references to former German regimes, rather than talk aboot hockey. > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Judah McAuley >wrote:

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Dana
They've had a gang problem in Salinas for decades, according to the news here. That 50% is a bit eye-popping, you sure about that? > You see my point then.  It is harder to concentrate on gangs and made up of > citizens and other crimes when time has to be divided up to deal with all > gangs and

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Scott Stewart
Habs suck Happy now Jerry? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > I think I prefer when threads break down into bad name calling, or > references to former German regimes, rather than talk aboot hockey. > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > >> >>

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Dana
I am doing green card --> naturalization, not applying for a green card, but wow, that's rather breathtaking. No wonder a lot of people choose snow. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Larry Lyons wrote: > >>costs about a thousand dollars and I already have had to emigrate to >>Silicon Valley to g

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Jerry Johnson
I think I prefer when threads break down into bad name calling, or references to former German regimes, rather than talk aboot hockey. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Halak has been a monster in goal. I thought they would place Carey > Price more since they pretty muc

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Judah McAuley
Oregon has always been a state that wanted to issue drivers licenses to illegal immigrants under the theory that there are going to be illegal immigrants here and it is much better to make sure they know how to drive and have insurance than not know how to drive and not have insurance and be drivi

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Scott Stewart
Just out of curiosity (and I'm not trying to be a smartass) was pre or post 9/11, because I think the Virginia licensing laws changed after 9/11 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > >>> They are already breaking the law by being here, does anyone really think >>they will start c

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Larry Lyons
>costs about a thousand dollars and I already have had to emigrate to >Silicon Valley to get work ;) but I've had the paperwork ready for >quite a while now. Several years. > >On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:31 AM, G Money wrote: >> Much more than a thousand. Just the initial application for a green c

RE: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread LRS Scout
Yes they would have legal status here. BTW nice escalation. Shooting Larry, come on man, enough with the dramatics, no one here is saying that. Yes I'm sure there is a small sub set of far right nuts out there that would love nothing more, but not within the mainstream anywhere. -Original

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Larry Lyons
>Once again, I do not think you should be allowed to get a driver's >license in the US if you are not a citizen or legal resident. If your >Canadian license expires while you are here, tough shit - go back to >Canada and get a new one. It is your responsibility to make sure your >driver's license

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Larry Lyons
>> They are already breaking the law by being here, does anyone really think >they will start caring about the law when it comes to auto insurance? > >Our of curiosity, is it possible to not have a green card and get both a >license and auto insurance? If it is than I can definitely see why an >il

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Judah McAuley
Halak has been a monster in goal. I thought they would place Carey Price more since they pretty much bet the franchise on him, but it looks like Halak is going to give him more time to grow up in a reserve roll. That is if Price stays out of the free agency market. I liked that the 1,2 and 3 seed

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Scott Stewart
of course the Habs goalie may as well have built a brick wall in front of the goal.. he was incredible. but Ovie was a non factor On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:13 PM, G Money wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Scott Stewart > wrote: > >> >> did you watch the Caps/Habs game last night and

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread G Money
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Sam wrote: > > Great another party line voter, just what we need. > Someone's got to offset you. -- The suburbs have no charms to soothe The restless dream of youth ~| Want to reach the Col

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread G Money
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > did you watch the Caps/Habs game last night and see Ovechkin mail in > his performance? > Did he really? Wow. -- The suburbs have no charms to soothe The restless dream of youth ~~~

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Scott Stewart
did you watch the Caps/Habs game last night and see Ovechkin mail in his performance? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:09 PM, G Money wrote: > > Hey, the beat the US team for the olympic gold.although barely. That > would have been a national tragedy if they would have lost that game. > > On Thu,

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread G Money
Hey, the beat the US team for the olympic gold.although barely. That would have been a national tragedy if they would have lost that game. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > uhmmm.. yeah... > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Cameron Childress > wrote: > > > > O

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Bruce Sorge
It seems to me that there is a reason why so many want to get out of their countries. I have been to both Mexico and the Philippines. Very depressed countries for sure, and much of that has to do with their corrupt government. Rather than blame our system of processing their visas lets focus on th

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Scott Stewart
uhmmm.. yeah... On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:50 AM, G Money wrote: >> Why would they leave, they have a perfectly nice home land? > > Because they want to live somewhere where their "home team" can win a > Stanley Cup? > > *ducks* >

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:50 AM, G Money wrote: > Why would they leave, they have a perfectly nice home land? Because they want to live somewhere where their "home team" can win a Stanley Cup? *ducks* -Cameron ... ~| Want t

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread G Money
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Medic wrote: > > > There's a reason we don't have immigration issues with Canada > > Namely because 99.9% of Canadians would rather eat a Uranium sandwich than > move to the United States. > Why would they leave, they have a perfectly nice home land? I wou

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Sam
Great another party line voter, just what we need. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:31 AM, G Money wrote: > > Why don't you just become a citizen alreadycome on over the dark side > > *evil laugh* > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusio

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Medic
> There's a reason we don't have immigration issues with Canada Namely because 99.9% of Canadians would rather eat a Uranium sandwich than move to the United States. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Dana wrote: > > I don't really want to beat a dead horse but I thought this was worth >

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Sam
A waiter? Really? Try moving to Mexico: http://michellemalkin.com/ On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Dana wrote: > > I don't really want to beat a dead horse but I thought this was worth > posting  -- an immigrant advocate answering some of the more > thoughtful ojections to illegal immigrat

RE: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread LRS Scout
He said LEGAL RESIDENTS. -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:20 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Closing the border works for short trips, less so for longer stays. Some people are here for years quite legally, you know. I was

Re: immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread G Money
So much of this would be resolved if Mexico didn't suck burro balls. There's a reason we don't have immigration issues with Canada On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Dana wrote: > > I don't really want to beat a dead horse but I thought this was worth > posting -- an immigrant advocate answ

Re: Loosing 5,000 barrels a day - Don't think futures will continue to fall for long!

2010-04-29 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Eric Roberts > wrote: > > Was it someone here that said that this wouldn't spill much because it > was a > > drilling rig rather than a production platform? > > At this point I wouldn't call it so muc

immigration facts for discussion

2010-04-29 Thread Dana
I don't really want to beat a dead horse but I thought this was worth posting -- an immigrant advocate answering some of the more thoughtful ojections to illegal immigration. The most interesting quote: ``If you are a Mexican wanting to get a legal visa to work as a waiter in the United States,

Re: Loosing 5,000 barrels a day - Don't think futures will continue to fall for long!

2010-04-29 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > Was it someone here that said that this wouldn't spill much because it was a > drilling rig rather than a production platform? At this point I wouldn't call it so much a spill, like "oops I spilled a little coffee on my shirt cuff", but more

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
"But this is anecdotal and I don't think you can hang the de-funding of schools exclusively on immigration vs say war spending." School spending is a state level issue. War funding is a federal level issue. States do receive federal aid for schools. I bet you can guess where I stand on that is

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Dana
... On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:36 AM, G Money wrote: > > pffft..lazy foreigner :) > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Dana wrote: > >> >> costs about a thousand dollars and I already have had to emigrate to >> Silicon Valley to get work ;) but I've had the paperwork ready for >> quite

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread G Money
pffft..lazy foreigner :) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Dana wrote: > > costs about a thousand dollars and I already have had to emigrate to > Silicon Valley to get work ;) but I've had the paperwork ready for > quite a while now. Several years. > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:31 AM, G

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Dana
you know that if I was a Reblican, I'd call that an unfunded mandate, right? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Maybe a special driver's license for that kind of situation...like how many > states put a red background on the pics for those who are under 21...this > would ma

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Dana
costs about a thousand dollars and I already have had to emigrate to Silicon Valley to get work ;) but I've had the paperwork ready for quite a while now. Several years. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:31 AM, G Money wrote: > > Why don't you just become a citizen alreadycome on over the dark side

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread G Money
Why don't you just become a citizen alreadycome on over the dark side *evil laugh* On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Dana wrote: > > works for short trips, less so for longer stays. Some people are here > for years quite legally, you know. I was here for about five years > before I applied

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Eric Roberts
Maybe a special driver's license for that kind of situation...like how many states put a red background on the pics for those who are under 21...this would make it obvious to law enforcement that they are legal aliens. Eric On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Hey, no plan

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Scott Stroz
Hey, no plan is perfect. I admit there are fringe cases where what I think should be would cause issues. I think that in those cases, where you are here legally, for an extended period of time, that you should be able to apply for a driver's license here. But, you should have to surrender it when

Re: This is a war I can get behind

2010-04-29 Thread Dana
that's hilarious On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "So the military has now joined middle and upper management in it's > obsession with PowerPoint.  Gah..." > > > I have a friend who is in the National Guard.  He has been to Iraq twice so > far.  He has some funny stories

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Dana
works for short trips, less so for longer stays. Some people are here for years quite legally, you know. I was here for about five years before I applied for a green card. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Once again, I do not think you should be allowed to get a driver's >

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Scott Stroz
Once again, I do not think you should be allowed to get a driver's license in the US if you are not a citizen or legal resident. If your Canadian license expires while you are here, tough shit - go back to Canada and get a new one. It is your responsibility to make sure your driver's license is u

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Scott Stroz
Either way, none of them should be allowed to get a driver's license in the US if they are not a legal resident or citizen, in my opinion. Again, if they have a valid license in their country of origin, than they should be able to legally operate a motor vehicle. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:06 AM,

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Dana
forgot to address this. Suppose you were there for several months and your license expired while you were there? I think my dad went through something of the kind while we were in France, though I don't remember if he resolved it by getting a French license. I am also sure that this arose while we

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Dana
I am not actually sure what the law is about Canadians entering the country as snowbirds, so I can't say. I strongly suspect that many do in fact overstay their visas. I have also heard that a great many students also overstay their visas, and that these students are more likely to be dangerous th

Re: Closing the border

2010-04-29 Thread Dana
not if you are working for yourself though, or with a countryman in a part of town where nobody cares. But what you say has some truth to it. A Mexican doctor or web developer is likely to be legal for the reasons you give. I'd consider mechanic, cook or carpenter to be skilled jobs though. There

Re: This is a war I can get behind

2010-04-29 Thread Eric Roberts
ah...yeah...20 years ;-) Nothing wrong with that...it was an informative correction. I didn't realize they changed assault weapons. When I was in they were just switching from the old Willy's jeep to the hmmv's...I remember having to take out platoon's jeep to the motor pool to get turned in.

Re: Loosing 5,000 barrels a day - Don't think futures will continue to fall for long!

2010-04-29 Thread Eric Roberts
Was it someone here that said that this wouldn't spill much because it was a drilling rig rather than a production platform? I could be thinking of a convo from facebook... Eric On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Casey Dougall < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > New estimate released, 2

Re: Loosing 5,000 barrels a day - Don't think futures will continue to fall for long!

2010-04-29 Thread G Money
So tighten those barrels up! On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Casey Dougall < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > New estimate released, 210,000 gallons of oil being spewed into the ocean > PER DAY! Wowzers > > > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704423504575212530648381798.ht

Loosing 5,000 barrels a day - Don't think futures will continue to fall for long!

2010-04-29 Thread Casey Dougall
New estimate released, 210,000 gallons of oil being spewed into the ocean PER DAY! Wowzers http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704423504575212530648381798.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories Oh and another side affect. http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2945016/did_gulf_oil_spill_ca

Re: This is a war I can get behind

2010-04-29 Thread Medic
That's funny. When I say Eric say M-16 I was wondering how long it would take before someone said something. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:51 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > You have been out a while. We mainly use M4s now. > > -Original Message- > From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensco

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