Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > So, here's the interview.  I used bold to highlight some lines that I > thought were interesting.  At no time in this interview does Rand Paul come > across as a racist.  He seems to be trying very hard to make the point that > he abhors di

Re: NYC suggestions?

2010-05-21 Thread Judah McAuley
DC is going to be a separate trip. I've got friends in DC and love all the museums though I haven't been there in 20(!) years. I think it will also be a more interesting trip for my daughter when she is older and better able to appreciate the historical stuff and take in Arlington and the Vietnam

Re: NYC suggestions?

2010-05-21 Thread Judah McAuley
That sounds pretty cool, I've never heard of it before. I'll make a note of it and see where its at in comparison to where we are staying. Thanks Cam. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > Check out the highline while you re there too... It's no super huge > tourist attra

Re: NYC suggestions?

2010-05-21 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > We took the kids to Statue of Liberty this past Monday. I would > recommend that to anyone visiting NYC who has not seen it yet. My daughter Ellie wants to see it. I am interested in Ellis Island from a historical perspective, might have to

Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-21 Thread Sam
I wish On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > They are moderate when it suits them and very neo-con the rest of the > time... > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusi

RE: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-21 Thread Eric Roberts
They are moderate when it suits them and very neo-con the rest of the time... -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 8:41 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote "Moderate r

Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Moderate republicans have all been pushed out of the party or have taken a sharp turn to the right." Really? I must have missed it. Last time I checked Juan McCain and Lindsay Grahamnesty were still in office (Just to name a few). It would be nice if they would take a right turn so they could

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
MADDOW: How about desegregating lunch counters? Lunch counters. Walgreen's lunch counters, were you in favor of that? Possibly? Because the government got involved? (CROSSTALK) PAUL: Right. Well, what it gets into is, is that then if you decide that restaurants are publicly owned and not private

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
MADDOW: When you -- PAUL: And I'm in favor of --* I'm opposed to any form of governmental racism or discrimination or segregation, all of the things we fought in the South, in fact, like I say, I think it's a stain on our history that we went 120 years from when the North desegregated and when th

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
So, here's the interview. I used bold to highlight some lines that I thought were interesting. At no time in this interview does Rand Paul come across as a racist. He seems to be trying very hard to make the point that he abhors discrimination and would not patronize any place that discriminate

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
It is in the state's interest to ensure a minimal standard of education. Its also in the state's interest to ensure that the children are not abused or neglected. We may couch these in moral or legalistic terms, but the bottom line it that it is the concern of the state. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Someonecan hold any opinion they want no matter how obnoxious. Just look at Sam for instance. That said, the problem happens when they go from just holding those opinions to acting on them. Unfortunately from what I've been reading on Paul's opinions, as a senator he may try and act on them. On

Re: NYC suggestions?

2010-05-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Weather's great? Its been cool and rainy lately. Although its supposed to be quite nice this weekend. BTW I live on the western edge of the DC region. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Brian Thornton wrote: > > take three-four hours and take the drive to dc... > > the weathers great right now. >

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
"That's not what he said on the interview. Jobs were never mentioned. It was about private businesses being able to deny service based on their personal bias." You're right. For some reason, jobs were on my mind and should fall under this issue. ~~~

Re: NYC suggestions?

2010-05-21 Thread Brian Thornton
take three-four hours and take the drive to dc... the weathers great right now. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > Check out the highline while you re there too... It's no super huge > tourist attraction but i thought it was cool when I went last year. > It's an old e

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Scott Stroz
You mean those who support his views, right? Some might take supporting his right to be racist as supporting a racist. :D On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Supporting their right to be racist and supporting a racist are 2 different > things.  I never said that he didn't ha

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Scott Stroz
So our 'rights' are only limited to those that are 'stated' some where? If that is true, then we have precious few real rights. :D On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Where is that right stated?  The government also has an obligation to ensure > that certain standards are m

Re: NYC suggestions?

2010-05-21 Thread Cameron Childress
Check out the highline while you re there too... It's no super huge tourist attraction but i thought it was cool when I went last year. It's an old elevated train segment that's been converted into park and walking path. I think it's about a mile long or so and there are multiple points

RE: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Eric Roberts
Where is that right stated? The government also has an obligation to ensure that certain standards are met...that is not only in the best interest of the children, but also to the state for economic reasons. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, M

RE: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Eric Roberts
Supporting their right to be racist and supporting a racist are 2 different things. I never said that he didn't have a right to be racist, just that those who support him are racist. Eric -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 6:21 PM

Re: NYC suggestions?

2010-05-21 Thread Scott Stroz
We took the kids to Statue of Liberty this past Monday. I would recommend that to anyone visiting NYC who has not seen it yet. Also, if you are a baseball fan, both the Yankees & Mets play in brand new stadiums and would likely be a good stop even if you are not fans of those teams. When I trave

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Scott Stroz
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > **Doesn't matter...if one person's rights have been violated, then all of > our rights have been violated. Does that include trying to take away a parent's right to educate their children as they see fit - because you have advocated that in

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Scott Stroz
I understand it would be a deal breaker for you, and most likely would for me as well. I do not support racism, but I will suport a person's right to be racist. Its a free country, people are free to think what they like and, to a degree, say what they like. I do not think it makes me a racist t

Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-21 Thread Scott Stroz
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I guess you weren't paying attention when some democrats didn't vote with > their party... Interesting how you did not answer the question. -- Scott Stroz --- You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can

RE: You can't cure stupid

2010-05-21 Thread Eric Roberts
I can just picture the mosh pit that just happens to move over to where the protestors are *weg* -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 4:08 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: You can't cure stupid I would pay to see that. On Fri, May

RE: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Eric Roberts
-Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 6:02 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks. And here is where I lose my righteous sureness. (Which does not happen often) Where

RE: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Eric Roberts
Yes...up until the point where it interferes with another individual's right to be free from racism. -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 5:51 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Jerry Johnson
And here is where I lose my righteous sureness. (Which does not happen often) Where does a person end and a corporation begin? Is any commercial transaction inherently corporatist? Can a one-man sandwich cart deny service based on race? Can a one-man plumber? Can he deny service to his ex-wife'

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Judah McAuley
A question for you: is it an individual's right to be racist? Do people have a right to hold odious opinions? I would say that, yes, they do. I will shun them and be disgusted by them, but I believe that individuals have a right to hold opinions with which I stridently disagree. Now, Rand Paul se

RE: You can't cure stupid

2010-05-21 Thread Eric Roberts
Makes me wish that was in Chicago...I would pay for ringside seats on this one... -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:11 PM To: cf-community Subject: You can't cure stupid from a friend on Twitter: Westboro Baptist Church to pick

RE: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Eric Roberts
lol -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 1:51 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks. I almost said "the person with the biggest shoe", envisioning Eddy Murphy descr

RE: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Eric Roberts
Except of course when the people making the laws are corporatists, then the interests of business come first, people a distant third... -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 12:20 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Tea Party thinks

RE: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Eric Roberts
Why> I wouldn't support someone who is a racist regardless of what their other views are...that would be a deal breaker for me. Not standing up against racism is the same as supporting it as doing nothing allows the status quo to continue and encourages those with those views if you support them

RE: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Eric Roberts
Can one really be ambivalent about rascism? I think that either you are ok with racism or you are against racism. By remaining neutral on it, you are really saying that you are ok with it. Issues like this are really some of the few instances where it is pretty black and white (pun intended).

RE: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Eric Roberts
Why not...if 3 states represent all when it comes to complaining about medicare... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:42 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks. On Fri

RE: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-21 Thread Eric Roberts
I guess you weren't paying attention when some democrats didn't vote with their party... -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:46 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote Jus

RE: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-21 Thread Eric Roberts
Some didn't in the past year when? -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 8:44 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote My issue is with your use of the word ALL. Yes, some do

Re: You can't cure stupid

2010-05-21 Thread Kris Sisk
Heh...That should be interesting. Maybe they'll get some decency knocked into thier thick skulls by some hardcore metal fans. Unlikely, but hey one can wish right? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon

Re: NYC suggestions?

2010-05-21 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Monday looks good to us. We'll even have the kids clean the house (yeh, right). :) -- Michael Dinowitz Lead Author - Adobe Coldfusion Anthology http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Judah McAuley w

Re: You can't cure stupid

2010-05-21 Thread Scott Stroz
I would pay to see that. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Maureen wrote: > > from a friend on Twitter: > Westboro Baptist Church to picket Ronnie James Dio's memorial. File > this under "not a wise idea" > > from me: > I am at heart a non-violent person, but some part of me really wants a > bunc

Re: NYC suggestions?

2010-05-21 Thread Jerry Johnson
For heart-stopping patriotism: Ellis Island Statue of Liberty Ground Zero Grand Central Station/Penn Station. Intrepid NYC Public Library Architecture Empire State Building Chrysler Building Guggenhiem - just the building is worth the time UN Cathedral of St John St Patricks St Pauls South Str

Re: NYC suggestions?

2010-05-21 Thread Judah McAuley
Our host mentioned visiting the Empire State Building, might have to give it a try. That deli looks tasty. We're staying on the Lower East Side on FDR right near the Williamsburg Bridge for those with more precise knowledge of NYC than I. cheers, Judah On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Maureen w

Re: NYC suggestions?

2010-05-21 Thread Judah McAuley
I'm fine with either Jewish or Kosher and since I don't generally eat cheese, I like my pastrami without dairy. As for dinner, that might work. Our host is Jewish, though not kosher although he's vegetarian now and mostly vegan and I'm not sure how that fits into dietary laws, and is planning on

Re: NYC suggestions?

2010-05-21 Thread Maureen
Ben's Kosher on 38th. http://www.bensdeli.net/ Empire State Building always worth a visit, especially if your kids haven't seen it. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Besides that, I want a good jewish deli, some decent beer and some > wandering. Anyone have suggestions o

Re: NYC suggestions?

2010-05-21 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Do you want a Jewish deli or a Kosher one? The first might not be the second but the second will be the first. If you want to travel all the way out to Brooklyn, we would love to have you for dinner (insert "to serve man" joke here). -- Michael Dinowitz Lead Author - Adobe Coldfusion Anthology ht

Re: You can't cure stupid

2010-05-21 Thread Maureen
LOL. Priceless. I have an acquaintance, pretty girl in her early 20s. Dresses goth, heavy into martial arts, and a rabid metal fan. I can just see her putting her hobnails into some bony Baptist butt for dissing her guy Dio. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > I can't wai

Re: NYC suggestions?

2010-05-21 Thread Sam
Let's do it. I can go for some Jewish beer. Hmmm...nm... I'll be out of town Oh, you can't read this anyway :P On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > So, I'm flying out to NYC tomorrow morning and will be in Manhattan > for the week with not much scheduled. I will have the

NYC suggestions?

2010-05-21 Thread Judah McAuley
So, I'm flying out to NYC tomorrow morning and will be in Manhattan for the week with not much scheduled. I will have the wife and 3 year old with me and we are planning on hitting the Central Park Children's Zoo, the Natural History Museum and the Metropolitan Art Museum. Besides that, I want a g

Re: Texas, textbooks and alternate histories

2010-05-21 Thread Sam
California kids can read? On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Legislation is being introduced in California to block any acceptance > of these changes: > http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_15098236 > > Here's the part that gets me: > "The amendments to the state's curriculum stan

Re: You can't cure stupid

2010-05-21 Thread Judah McAuley
That's mean, Jerry. Funny, but mean. I approve. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > I can't wait for the lawsuits afterwards. > > How exactly do you garnish an allowance from Mom for keeping your basement > bedroom clean? > > > > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Maureen wr

Re: You can't cure stupid

2010-05-21 Thread Jerry Johnson
I can't wait for the lawsuits afterwards. How exactly do you garnish an allowance from Mom for keeping your basement bedroom clean? On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Maureen wrote: > > from a friend on Twitter: > Westboro Baptist Church to picket Ronnie James Dio's memorial. File > this under

Re: Texas, textbooks and alternate histories

2010-05-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Hopefully, since we're in the digital age, it won't be so hard to back out some of these changes for other states who value education. Speaking of education, just saw the ITBS scores for my daughters' school. Their 4th, 5th and 6th grades all scored in the 99th percentile nationally. Feeling

You can't cure stupid

2010-05-21 Thread Maureen
from a friend on Twitter: Westboro Baptist Church to picket Ronnie James Dio's memorial. File this under "not a wise idea" from me: I am at heart a non-violent person, but some part of me really wants a bunch a heavy metal fanatics kick the sh*t out of Phelps and his minions. ~~~

Re: Texas, textbooks and alternate histories

2010-05-21 Thread Maureen
Legislation is being introduced in California to block any acceptance of these changes: http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_15098236 Here's the part that gets me: "The amendments to the state's curriculum standards also minimize Thomas Jefferson's role in world and U.S. history because he advocate

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Sam
Krauthammer's Take On Rand Paul’s remarks on the Civil Rights Act: This is not going to sink him, but it is a negative. If on the first day of the general election campaign you have to issue a statement saying I'm not in favor of repealing the Civil Rights Act, you have a problem. Why are you

Texas, textbooks and alternate histories

2010-05-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Well, it's wrapping up and we're getting the final specs. Found it interesting that one of the R's on the board wanted to make sure Obama's middle name was used. Gee, that's not a political jab at all. Another thing I found interesting is that Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle" is no longer recomm

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Maureen
Go forth and learn. http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/05/how_the_gulf_of_mexico_oil_spi.html On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I do not think this is necessarily true of the BP thing, though, > admittedly, I know little about what happened other than

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Sam
That's what we call a Moonbat. He found a tiny flaw in the platform, which many have, and turned it into all Tea Parier's are racist. Now you can happily say anyone that supports small government is racist. If you're not socialist your racist. Wasn't Obama supposed to bring us together? On Fri,

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Maureen
Paul defeated the Republican Party's pick for the Senate seat, so you gotta cut them some slack on this one. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Vivec wrote: > Congratulations, Republicans. The man you chose to run for the vacant U.S. > Senate seat from Kentucky and the man who delivered the highe

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Scott Stroz
Err...the BP thing, no the BO thing. :D On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Vivec wrote: >> >> To add some fuel, Here is another Rand Paul quote: >> >> "I think it's part of this sort of blame game society in the sense that it's >> always got t

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Scott Stroz
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Vivec wrote: > > To add some fuel, Here is another Rand Paul quote: > > "I think it's part of this sort of blame game society in the sense that it's > always got to be someone's fault instead of the fact that sometimes > accidents happen." I happen to agree with

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Jerry Johnson
I almost said "the person with the biggest shoe", envisioning Eddy Murphy describing his mother's ability to peg anyone with her shoe, but was not sure if that mental image was in everyone's head. If not, it should be. NSFW (it IS Eddy Murphy) http://www.spike.com/video/moms-boomerang-shoe/28197

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Vivec
To add some fuel, Here is another Rand Paul quote: "I think it's part of this sort of blame game society in the sense that it's always got to be someone's fault instead of the fact that sometimes accidents happen." This on the fact that the Government and everyone else is blaming poor British Pe

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Vivec
Facebooked. Now it's a part of the net and advertisers' data forevers and evers . :-) lol On 21 May 2010 14:38, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > Feel free. > > You will be merciless mocked for quoting me, but that is your choice. > > ~~

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Jerry Johnson
Feel free. You will be merciless mocked for quoting me, but that is your choice. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Vivec wrote: > > can I post this as a quote to Jerry? :-) > > > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > > I have to say I actually agree with him in the abstrac

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Vivec
can I post this as a quote to Jerry? :-) > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > I have to say I actually agree with him in the abstract. The Federal > > Government does NOT belong in private business transactions. > > > > Unfortunately, abstract fails when idiots own busine

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Sam
So are you saying he's racist? Are you also saying most of Kentucky is racist? Hmmm, I've been to Kentucky, they sure do seem to have a lot of white folk that don't like minorities. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Maureen wrote: > > That's not what I said.  There is difference between saying a

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Scott Stroz
That was directed at Eric, not you. Sorry. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Maureen wrote: > > That's not what I said.  There is difference between saying all those > who voted for him are racist and saying those who are racist, and who > are present in that area in large numbers, would vote for

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Maureen
That's not what I said. There is difference between saying all those who voted for him are racist and saying those who are racist, and who are present in that area in large numbers, would vote for him because they agreed with his stance. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > S

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Judah McAuley
And I agree with Jerry. Government should take a light hand with business. However, Businesses *are not people*. I want everyone to repeat that again and again until it gets through their skulls. The first duty of the Government is to protect the rights and welfare of its people. The interests of

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Sam
yeah that's it On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > Is _anyone_ surprised by this? > > Did NO ONE read his first name? > > Imagine him as a kid, and what he learned at pappy's knee. > > I have to say I actually agree with him in the abstract. The Federal > Government does NO

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Sam
Yes I said that. Somewhere, let me see...nope not here...where... Are you reading the same thing as I am? On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > So racism is a part of small government? That's quite revealing. > > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Sam wrote: >> >> He's a li

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Scott Stroz
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > I have to say I actually agree with him in the abstract. The Federal > Government does NOT belong in private business transactions. > > Unfortunately, abstract fails when idiots own businesses.  And then it > unfortunately requires the pers

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
So racism is a part of small government? That's quite revealing. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Sam wrote: > > He's a libertarian and the believes in limiting government > intervention in private business. > The question has nothing to do with anything except to find a way to > tar and feathe

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Jerry Johnson
Is _anyone_ surprised by this? Did NO ONE read his first name? Imagine him as a kid, and what he learned at pappy's knee. I have to say I actually agree with him in the abstract. The Federal Government does NOT belong in private business transactions. Unfortunately, abstract fails when idiots

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Sam
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Vivec wrote: > > This isn't the first time Rand has said this. > > In fact he also says that handicapped people should be given offices on the > ground floor, rather than requiring a corporation to install elevators. Heh, he's a thinker, just not a very deep one

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Scott Stroz
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Maureen wrote: > Pointing out the obvious is not painting with a large brush.  If they > didn't agree with his stance, why would they vote for h I do not think there has ever been a candidate for any level of public office where I agreed with them 100%. I would

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Vivec
This isn't the first time Rand has said this. In fact he also says that handicapped people should be given offices on the ground floor, rather than requiring a corporation to install elevators. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/37265669#37265669 The MSNBC video here is also instructive.

Re: Checkout google today

2010-05-21 Thread Judah McAuley
I don't think that Ellie knows what Google is. She learns so freakin fast that I'm a little afraid to let her loose with a search engine quite yet. Right now she gets pbskids.org and sometimes we'll go through Flickr photo search slideshows together for animals and babies and such. She has become

Re: Checkout google today

2010-05-21 Thread Sam
A toddler in a bar playing video games? You must be so proud. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I've just introduced my 3.5 year old to Ms. Pac-Man and she loves it. > They have the old console game at a pub we periodically go to. 25 > cents a play so it isn't a big dea

Re: Checkout google today

2010-05-21 Thread Casey Dougall
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I've just introduced my 3.5 year old to Ms. Pac-Man and she loves it. > They have the old console game at a pub we periodically go to. 25 > cents a play so it isn't a big deal if the game is over pretty quick. > Her first video game. > S

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Sam
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Maureen wrote: > So he's an opportunist who will do whatever is necessary to get > elected.  Gee, we need more of those in Washington. Isn't that the only way to get elected and implement change? unless of course your clean and articulate. > Moot.  You said he

Re: Checkout google today

2010-05-21 Thread Scott Stroz
Show-off :P On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I've just introduced my 3.5 year old to Ms. Pac-Man and she loves it. > They have the old console game at a pub we periodically go to. 25 > cents a play so it isn't a big deal if the game is over pretty quick. > Her first vid

Re: Checkout google today

2010-05-21 Thread Judah McAuley
I've just introduced my 3.5 year old to Ms. Pac-Man and she loves it. They have the old console game at a pub we periodically go to. 25 cents a play so it isn't a big deal if the game is over pretty quick. Her first video game. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > My7 year-old

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Kris Sisk wrote: > > It's not like he campaigned on a white supremisist platform. In fact I'd put > good odds on a majority of the people who voted for him not having heard that > opinion till after the fact. Americans >are kinda stupid about elections that > w

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Maureen
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Sam wrote: > > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Maureen wrote: > >> I have no idea what ALL Libertarians are against. We aren't talking >> about ALL liberatarians, we're discussing Rand Paul. If he's a >> Libertarian why is he running as a Republican? > > Becaus

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Sam
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Vivec wrote: > > Sam, all we are talking about is what this one guy said, Rand Paul, and his > representation of the Tea Party. > We're not talking about anyone else, and what they said or did. Mo stated a whole bunch of people in that part of the country agree

Re: Checkout google today

2010-05-21 Thread Scott Stroz
My7 year-old just told me about that. yes, my 7 year-old uses Google and he knows who Pac man is. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > :) > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://ww

Re: Checkout google today

2010-05-21 Thread Vivec
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Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Vivec
Sam, all we are talking about is what this one guy said, Rand Paul, and his representation of the Tea Party. We're not talking about anyone else, and what they said or did. Does he or does he not represent the Tea Party? On 21 May 2010 11:21, Sam wrote: > Nope, never heard of him until yesterd

Re: Checkout google today

2010-05-21 Thread Kris Sisk
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Re: Checkout google today

2010-05-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
anyone else notice that only the sound is played through flash :0 On May 21, 2010, at 10:21 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > Yeah - you gotta wait for it > > I was just going to post about this - you guys beat me to it! > > -Cameron > > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:17 AM, LRS Scout wrote:

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Sam
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Maureen wrote: > I have no idea what ALL Libertarians are against. We aren't talking > about ALL liberatarians, we're discussing Rand Paul. If he's a > Libertarian why is he running as a Republican? Because they can't win as a third party. > Has he stated he i

Re: Checkout google today

2010-05-21 Thread Cameron Childress
Yeah - you gotta wait for it I was just going to post about this - you guys beat me to it! -Cameron On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:17 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Ok now that was worth mentioning, thank you. > > I thought it was just a banner till it started playing. ~

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Kris Sisk
It's not like he campaigned on a white supremisist platform. In fact I'd put good odds on a majority of the people who voted for him not having heard that opinion till after the fact. Americans are kinda stupid about elections that way. Also it seems a very odd view for a Libertarian. I know t

RE: Checkout google today

2010-05-21 Thread LRS Scout
Ok now that was worth mentioning, thank you. I thought it was just a banner till it started playing. -Original Message- From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 11:11 AM To: cf-community Subject: Checkout google today :)

Checkout google today

2010-05-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
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Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Maureen
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Sam wrote: > > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Maureen wrote: > >> I'll believe that when he comes out in favor of abolishing corporate welfare. > > Aren't all Libertarians against that? I have no idea what ALL Libertarians are against. We aren't talking about

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2010-05-21 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > Reminds me of back when I was living in BC and mushroom season. At the > time picking Psilocybin wasn't illegal, but possession was.We used to > drive to the edge of town and watch all these overweight cops and RCMP > trying to chase all th

Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.

2010-05-21 Thread Sam
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Maureen wrote: > I'll believe that when he comes out in favor of abolishing corporate welfare. Aren't all Libertarians against that? >> The question has nothing to do with anything except to find a way to tar and >> feather the him. > He wants to serve in Con

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