Re: Something new for publick consumption

2010-09-20 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
am I missing something? They're going to ask you about your sexual orientation and gender identityand? I guess I don't see the big deal. Years back, it was pretty cut and dried in most peoples minds. When you checked the male box, you were a heterosexual male. When you checked the

Re: PDF tool on a Mac?

2010-09-20 Thread Ras Tafari
eh?! On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Its Winders only. > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Tony Weeg wrote: >> >> hi peeps >> >> is there no Mac version of a LiveCycle PDF Form creation tool?  I can't seem >> to find it to try or download from adobe.com. >> >> thx! >>

Re: PDF tool on a Mac?

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
Its Winders only. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Tony Weeg wrote: > > hi peeps > > is there no Mac version of a LiveCycle PDF Form creation tool?  I can't seem > to find it to try or download from adobe.com. > > thx! > tw > > Sent from my iPhone... Don't hate. > > ~~

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
I will continue to give the position they hold the respect it deserves as it seems to have done me pretty good so far. You keep treating every police officer like they are a criminal and see where that gets you. I hope you never have a real need for assistance from a law enforcement officer. It w

PDF tool on a Mac?

2010-09-20 Thread Tony Weeg
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When's Adobe releasing this product?

2010-09-20 Thread Kris Sisk
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Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Medic
Pick lung! Pick lung! On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Would you like a tissue Scott? > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 7:23 PM > To: cf-community > Subject:

RE: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Eric Roberts
Would you like a tissue Scott? -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 7:23 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right. Even taking into account everything you get fro

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
Even taking into account everything you get from the news and your personal accounts, you are still talking about a very small percentage of police officers. Eric, its pretty much the same as your feelings about homeschooling. You are judging a large group of people based on the words and actions

Re: Liberals and Atheists Smarter than Conservatives and Believers

2010-09-20 Thread denstar
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "What?  Jerry was talking about killing people because they know how to > read-- fascist "competition".  I don't think the idea is super-funny, > personally.  LOL" > > Actually, I wasn't.  I was talking about those ivory tower academics who

Re: Liberals and Atheists Smarter than Conservatives and Believers

2010-09-20 Thread denstar
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:03 PM, denstar wrote: >> >> What?  Jerry was talking about killing people because they know how to >> read-- fascist "competition".  I don't think the idea is super-funny, >> personally.  LOL > > And I was pointing out you'

RE: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Eric Roberts
It's also from my personal experience, which I have stated several times but you continue to chose to ignore. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:06 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questi

RE: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Eric Roberts
You don't? yeah right... -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:53 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right. So, you admit that you apply different rules to diff

Re: Liberals and Atheists Smarter than Conservatives and Believers

2010-09-20 Thread Maureen
I worked in academia for a while. Met a lot of over-educated fools. My favorite quote: "Those of you who think you know everything are annoying those of us who do". On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > Actually, I wasn't.  I was talking about those ivory tower academics who

Re: Welcome Phillip (was re: immigration guy who was right)

2010-09-20 Thread Erika L. Rich
That's because the alter ego of Steven King haunts this list ... On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Sometimes your post shows up on google even before you post it. > > ~~

Re: Liberals and Atheists Smarter than Conservatives and Believers

2010-09-20 Thread Jerry Barnes
"What? Jerry was talking about killing people because they know how to read-- fascist "competition". I don't think the idea is super-funny, personally. LOL" Actually, I wasn't. I was talking about those ivory tower academics who think they know how to run everything even though they have no r

Re: Liberals and Atheists Smarter than Conservatives and Believers

2010-09-20 Thread Sam
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:03 PM, denstar wrote: > > What?  Jerry was talking about killing people because they know how to > read-- fascist "competition".  I don't think the idea is super-funny, > personally.  LOL And I was pointing out you're both wrong. > "Intelligentsia" isn't just educators

Re: Liberals and Atheists Smarter than Conservatives and Believers

2010-09-20 Thread denstar
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:17 PM, denstar wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: >>> A lot of the time, the intelligentsia are the first to go under fascist >>> regimes.  It is important to get rid of like minded groups th

Re: File in scary as hell

2010-09-20 Thread Sam
Clear as mud What are you trying to say? On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > Ok, how about this then. On 90% of the issues you see in politics I fall > dead center or real close to it. There are a few issues which I feel > that the correct stance is so blindingly obvious tha

Re: Liberals and Atheists Smarter than Conservatives and Believers

2010-09-20 Thread Sam
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:17 PM, denstar wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: >> A lot of the time, the intelligentsia are the first to go under fascist >> regimes.  It is important to get rid of like minded groups that can split >> the base.  After rival factions are

Re: Liberals and Atheists Smarter than Conservatives and Believers

2010-09-20 Thread denstar
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "I was mocking Eric for pointing out how ridiculous it is to think the smart > and educated are fascist and then goes on to point out how they are the > first targets." > > > A lot of the time, the intelligentsia are the first to go under f

Something new for publick consumption

2010-09-20 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
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Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Sam
I knew that about him the day he joined this list. :) On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > So, you watch the news and see a few story about a 'bad' police > officer and automatically assume they are all 'bad'? That is anecdotal > evidence at best. > > A police officers are li

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
So, you watch the news and see a few story about a 'bad' police officer and automatically assume they are all 'bad'? That is anecdotal evidence at best. A police officers are like network administrators in that if they are doing their job correctly, you never hear about it, but if something bad h

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
What does ' using your badge as a Viagra replacement' mean? It makes no sense. Just so I am clear, are you saying that it is OK for people in some professions to make mistakes, but not other professions? If so, you are again treating different groups by different rules. Maybe its a good thing yo

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
So, you admit that you apply different rules to different groups? Interesting. I do not absolutely trust all members of any group. I honestly think that a majority of politicians start off with admirable intentions. Most politicians that directly impact my life are at the local or state level. At

RE: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Eric Roberts
Again...unfortunately, it's not just a few. One just has to watch the news and read the newspaper or just live life to see that. Eric -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:44 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: US Man refuses to

RE: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Eric Roberts
Making amends after you have been fined or put in jail or worse is too late. There is a difference between making a mistake and using your badge as a Viagra replacement. If a doctor makes a mistake, he gets sued for malpractice. It is too late then most of the time. Accounting issues and softwa

RE: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Sisk, Kris
It's never too late to learn from the mistake, but it is sometimes too late to correct the damage it's done. Just ask some of the guys who went to prison in the 80s and early 90s only to be cleared and released years later when the technology to make reliable use of DNA evidence became availabl

RE: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Eric Roberts
Becauser you are comparing 2 different groups. Do you automatically absolutely trust all politicians? Or do you just assume that they are full of it? Better yet, do you automatically trust all Democratic politicians or do you assume that they are full of it? Why is ok to discriminate against th

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
Its also pretty stupid to judge an entire group of people based on the words and actions of a few members of that group, but you seem to have no issue with that. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Comparing cops to muslims is pretty stupid.  You are arguing apples and > roc

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
So, now, you are expecting police officers to NEVER make mistakes? Does this attitude follow over into any other professions? medicine? accounting? software development? I disagree that its ever 'too late'. If someone makes a mistake and owns up to that mistake, is remorseful because of the resul

RE: File in scary as hell

2010-09-20 Thread Sisk, Kris
Ok, how about this then. On 90% of the issues you see in politics I fall dead center or real close to it. There are a few issues which I feel that the correct stance is so blindingly obvious that the fact that there's even a debate on it leaves me flabbergasted. These are the issues which I can be

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
Again, why is it wrong to judge one group based on the actions and words of a few, but OK to do so to another group? That, to me, is hypocritical, and that has been my point this whole thread. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Comparing cops to muslims is pretty stupid.  

RE: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Eric Roberts
Afterwards is too late unless he is paying your fines or serving your jail time -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:30 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was rig

RE: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Eric Roberts
Comparing cops to muslims is pretty stupid. You are arguing apples and rocks. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

RE: File in scary as hell

2010-09-20 Thread Eric Roberts
I wish bipartisanship was worse hehehe...I think you meant partisanship ;-) -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:13 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: File in scary as hell "not saying that it is any different, but people k

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
The violation is just as bad, and I said as much. Where the difference lies is with how the overzealous officer handles himself afterwards. As I said, everyone makes mistakes. Unfortunately, sometimes when some people make mistakes others get inured or die, and other have their rights violated.

Re: File in scary as hell

2010-09-20 Thread Sam
You can't average you extremism and claim the middle. Compromise doesn't always work. Sometimes you need people to fight for what's right and not just give in. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > No. Not even close. I get to the extremes on one or two issues, but > they're op

Re: File in scary as hell

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > No. Not even close. I get to the extremes on one or two issues, but > they're opposite extremes. Overall I'm a disillusioned moderate. I think > a whole lot more compromise on capital hill would be the best thing for > this country and I woul

RE: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Eric Roberts
Overzealous to me is just as bad as a bad officer. The intention is irrelevant as the end result is the same. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:30 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration ques

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
I assume you have proof? Links? Or is this just opinion pawned off as fact like how you feel about homeschooling? On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Except that it is not just a few... > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Mon

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
How so? All I was asking for was some consistency. If I made disparaging remarks about any other group of people based on the words and actions of a few, I would get crucified on this list for it. Why is it OK when when you are referring to law enforcement officers? On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 1:12

RE: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Eric Roberts
Except that it is not just a few... -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:53 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right. Kris, slice it any way you want, justify

Re: Liberals and Atheists Smarter than Conservatives and Believers

2010-09-20 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I was mocking Eric for pointing out how ridiculous it is to think the smart and educated are fascist and then goes on to point out how they are the first targets." A lot of the time, the intelligentsia are the first to go under fascist regimes. It is important to get rid of like minded groups

RE: File in scary as hell

2010-09-20 Thread Sisk, Kris
No. Not even close. I get to the extremes on one or two issues, but they're opposite extremes. Overall I'm a disillusioned moderate. I think a whole lot more compromise on capital hill would be the best thing for this country and I would be pleasantly surprised to see it actually happen. -Ori

RE: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Eric Roberts
Now you are just being stupid Scott... -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:25 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right. Oh...so, its OK to pre-judge people as

RE: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Eric Roberts
Apples and oranges -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:18 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Phillip Vector wrote:

RE: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Eric Roberts
I know quite a few cops that don't think it is disrespectful...to include my brother in law and several of my family members. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:06 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer I

Re: File in scary as hell

2010-09-20 Thread Jerry Barnes
"not saying that it is any different, but people keep yelling about change.. it won't come from the Tea Party.. change will only come from outside of the Democratic/Republican joint political machine" The irony in here is so thick, you could cut it with a knife. President Obama ran on a platform

RE: Liberals and Atheists Smarter than Conservatives and Believers

2010-09-20 Thread Eric Roberts
Go learn some history Sam... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:18 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Liberals and Atheists Smarter than Conservatives and Believers Think about it Larry, your the one spewing insults here. I was m

Re: File in scary as hell

2010-09-20 Thread Sam
Aren't you one? On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > Why is it people on the political extremes never realize the irony? > > -Original Message- > From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:54 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: File

RE: File in scary as hell

2010-09-20 Thread Sisk, Kris
Why is it people on the political extremes never realize the irony? -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:54 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: File in scary as hell The puppet masters. You know, the ones that told you the Obama cha

Re: File in scary as hell

2010-09-20 Thread G Money
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Sam wrote: > > The puppet masters. You know, the ones that told you the Obama changy > thing was good but the Palin changy thing, which is what Obama was > supposed to do, is bad. The same ones that had you convinced Bush was > an idiot. Now they tell you Obama

Re: File in scary as hell

2010-09-20 Thread Sam
What are you like 10-years-old? On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > figure you'd weasel out of it. > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Sam wrote: >> >> Sorry, I'm not really a gambling man. >> >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Larry C. Lyons >> wrote: >>> >>> 3 par

Re: File in scary as hell

2010-09-20 Thread Sam
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:01 PM, G Money wrote: > Who's "they"? > > (This should be good!) The puppet masters. You know, the ones that told you the Obama changy thing was good but the Palin changy thing, which is what Obama was supposed to do, is bad. The same ones that had you convinced Bush w

Re: Liberals and Atheists Smarter than Conservatives and Believers

2010-09-20 Thread Sam
So you admit you were wrong ( due to poor acumen) and are backtracking to previous alleged instances? Ones that you're too busy to look up? As for the tantrum, Larry you should check your blood pressure. You have the majority of tantrums on this list and nobody seems phased by them. On Mon, Sep

Re: File in scary as hell

2010-09-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
figure you'd weasel out of it. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Sam wrote: > > Sorry, I'm not really a gambling man. > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Larry C. Lyons > wrote: >> >> 3 parts, $20 on each >> 1. O'donnell wins. I say no. >> >> 2. Palin wins the GOP nomination. again I say no.

Re: Welcome Phillip (was re: immigration guy who was right)

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:38 PM, G Money wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > >> >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Judah McAuley >> wrote: >> >> > Amen to that. I mean, I think you ought to be embarrassed about the >> > Giants, but I'm just a hater :) >> >> *SNA

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Sam
Yeah, but you said it better On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Did I just say the same thing as Sam? :D ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Micha

Re: Liberals and Atheists Smarter than Conservatives and Believers

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > You have a temper tantrum when you don't understand. You've > demonstrated your lack of acumen and understanding may times.  your > response is typical. > I am not a big fan of acumen, it always gives me bad gas. Thank you, I will be

Re: Welcome Phillip (was re: immigration guy who was right)

2010-09-20 Thread G Money
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Judah McAuley > wrote: > > > Amen to that. I mean, I think you ought to be embarrassed about the > > Giants, but I'm just a hater :) > > *SNAP* > *warning, thread hijack* Brandon Jacobs throwing his hel

Re: Welcome Phillip (was re: immigration guy who was right)

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > Amen to that. I mean, I think you ought to be embarrassed about the > Giants, but I'm just a hater :) *SNAP* -- Scott Stroz --- You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can wonder what the f*&k happene

RE: Welcome Phillip (was re: immigration guy who was right)

2010-09-20 Thread Sisk, Kris
Same as any online space. Don't say things you're gonna be a ashamed of down the road and you should be fine. Honestly I'd like to think that a prospective employer would put more weight on my resume and portfolio than on where I stand politically. If I miss out on a job because someone else's por

Re: Liberals and Atheists Smarter than Conservatives and Believers

2010-09-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You have a temper tantrum when you don't understand. You've demonstrated your lack of acumen and understanding may times. your response is typical. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:18 AM, Sam wrote: > > Think about it Larry, your the one spewing insults here. > > I was mocking Eric for pointing out ho

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: >>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Judah McAuley >>> wrote: >>> If you treat all police officers as if they are one of t

Re: Welcome Phillip (was re: immigration guy who was right)

2010-09-20 Thread Phillip Vector
Actually, I use the external SMTP server.. So it gets sent out as whatever account I used to send it. :) On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Vivec wrote: > > I thought about using multiple email accounts...but it is really too > much trouble. > > And Gmail never sends the alternate email as the Rep

Re: Welcome Phillip (was re: immigration guy who was right)

2010-09-20 Thread Vivec
I thought about using multiple email accounts...but it is really too much trouble. And Gmail never sends the alternate email as the Reply To account either. So someone just clicks Reply and sees the email address you were logged into Gmail with. It's kinda silly that way. ~~

RE: File in scary as hell

2010-09-20 Thread Sisk, Kris
>The choice between Obama and Palin is a laughable one. I agree. The obvious choice would be to vote third party in such an election. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-

Re: Welcome Phillip (was re: immigration guy who was right)

2010-09-20 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Maybe its a bit idealistic and naive, but if I am refused a job offer > from a company because of the opinions I expressed on this or other > lists, odds are they are not a company I would want to work for > anyway. Amen to that. I mean, I

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > Someone call Satan and ask if it's snowing... > > Seriously though, like I said earlier, I'm polite to officers. You can > be respectful and politely decline to answer questions. I agree. And that is a lot of the 'coaching' I was referring

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: >> If you treat all police officers as if they are one of the 'bad' or >> 'corrupt' ones, even a 'good' one might be put off by

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Medic wrote: > > That's one of the things I like about Scott. He's all like "Yeah I said it. > So what?" Thank you kind sir. One of the greatest compliments I ever received was from Charlie Griefer. We met face to face a few years back at CFunited. After the co

RE: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Sisk, Kris
Someone call Satan and ask if it's snowing... Seriously though, like I said earlier, I'm polite to officers. You can be respectful and politely decline to answer questions. Going back to the original start of this discussion, I think the only real mistake the guy in the airport made was saying '

Re: Welcome Phillip (was re: immigration guy who was right)

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
Maybe its a bit idealistic and naive, but if I am refused a job offer from a company because of the opinions I expressed on this or other lists, odds are they are not a company I would want to work for anyway. There is nothing I have ever said here that I would be ashamed or embarrassed of (even

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > If you treat all police officers as if they are one of the 'bad' or > 'corrupt' ones, even a 'good' one might be put off by your attitude. > There is a way to protect your rights, even

Re: File in scary as hell

2010-09-20 Thread G Money
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Sam wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:37 AM, G Money wrote: > > > > > > Oh hell no...no way. See, unlike you, my thinking is not set in stone. > > Of course your thoughts aren't carved in stone, they still haven't > given them all to you. > Who's "they"?

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I think that you may be not understanding the context in which Kris > was stating this. What he's trying to say (at least how I take it) is > equivalent to the recommended practice for handling guns: always > assume that a gun is loaded a

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > >>I think you are back stepping a little, or maybe just clarifying your > position. > >>Pretty sure it was you who made a comment earlier that was similar to > 'I assume all cops are bad until proven otherwise'. > > Yes, that was a very poor c

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Sam
If you act like all officers are corrupt then even a good cop could become unpleasant. Try starting with all are good and work on weeding out the bad when you get to them. It'll do us all better. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I think that you may be not underst

Re: Welcome Phillip (was re: immigration guy who was right)

2010-09-20 Thread Phillip Vector
Oh.. I do the same. This account has a history and such, but the account I apply for jobs with have my real name and doesn't link up to this account (well, at least not at first lookthrough). On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Sock puppet accounts can be great for that (an

Re: Welcome Phillip (was re: immigration guy who was right)

2010-09-20 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Only if you're posting through gmail. :) On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Sometimes your post shows up on google even before you post it. > > > On Sep 20, 2010, at 10:24 AM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > > > > And rightfully so. They in

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Phillip Vector
That right there is pure gold. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > The same is true with police officers. You could be dealing with the > nicest, most ethical, caring police officer in the world, in which > case everything is going to be fine. Or you could be dealing with an

Re: Welcome Phillip (was re: immigration guy who was right)

2010-09-20 Thread Judah McAuley
Sock puppet accounts can be great for that (and amusing). I'm too lazy for anonymity though. Cheers Phillip, Judah On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > And rightfully so. They index this site within minutes of a new post. > > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Phillip

Re: File in scary as hell

2010-09-20 Thread Sam
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:37 AM, G Money wrote: > > > Oh hell no...no way. See, unlike you, my thinking is not set in stone. Of course your thoughts aren't carved in stone, they still haven't given them all to you. > However, i can tell you right now, if you put up Sarah Palin..HA! Sorry,

RE: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Sisk, Kris
Exactly. Thank you Judah. -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:45 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right. I think that you may be not understanding the

RE: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Sisk, Kris
>I think you are back stepping a little, or maybe just clarifying your position. >Pretty sure it was you who made a comment earlier that was similar to 'I assume all cops are bad until proven otherwise'. Yes, that was a very poor choice of words on my part. Looking at it now it doesn't accuratel

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I think you are back stepping a little, or maybe just clarifying your > position. > > Pretty sure it was you who made a comment earlier that was similar to > 'I assume all cops are bad until proven otherwise'. > > There is a way to protect

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Phillip Vector wrote: > I would not be willing to assume all cops are bad as default... Kris would, and that is my point. Here is a snippet from earlier in the thread, the first part is from me, the response is from Kris. >> I guess 'innocent until proven gui

Re: File in scary as hell

2010-09-20 Thread G Money
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Sam wrote: > Yet you want/think they deserve to stay? > Oh hell no...no way. See, unlike you, my thinking is not set in stone. However, i can tell you right now, if you put up Sarah Palin..HA! Sorry, i just can't think about it without laughing. > And I

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
That was meant for Kris. :D On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Phillip Vector wrote: > > I'm clarifying my position. It's still early here on the west coast. :) > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: >> >> I think you are back stepping a little, or maybe just clarifying your >>

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Phillip Vector
I'm clarifying my position. It's still early here on the west coast. :) On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I think you are back stepping a little, or maybe just clarifying your > position. ~| Order the Ado

Re: File in scary as hell

2010-09-20 Thread Sam
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:28 AM, G Money wrote: > > TONS of issues with current Democrat leaders. Yet you want/think they deserve to stay? > Your poll is hilarious. I wonder what those same independents would have to > say about Caribou Barbie (her official name, from now onlove it). And

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Phillip Vector
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Nice try Phil. I never mentioned anything about the process one needs > to go through when they are unemployed. I know. I did. But it's the same concept. > People cheat the system. I have seen it, more times than I care to remember. Agree

Re: Welcome Phillip (was re: immigration guy who was right)

2010-09-20 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Sometimes your post shows up on google even before you post it. On Sep 20, 2010, at 10:24 AM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > And rightfully so. They index this site within minutes of a new post. > > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Phillip Vector > wrote: > >> >> Why... Thank you. :) >>

Re: File in scary as hell

2010-09-20 Thread Michael Dinowitz
You and a few others as well. Do a search on it and you'll be surprised at the results. They even have a doll. On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Caribou Barbie is a term I made up because I refuse to say her name on > the web and give her more weight in the search engines. I

Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right.

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Stroz
I think you are back stepping a little, or maybe just clarifying your position. Pretty sure it was you who made a comment earlier that was similar to 'I assume all cops are bad until proven otherwise'. There is a way to protect your rights and NOT have this attitude. Which I guess is also part o

Re: File in scary as hell

2010-09-20 Thread G Money
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Sam wrote: > > But you have no issues with the current Democrat leaders? > TONS of issues with current Democrat leaders. Your poll is hilarious. I wonder what those same independents would have to say about Caribou Barbie (her official name, from now onlove

Re: Welcome Phillip (was re: immigration guy who was right)

2010-09-20 Thread Michael Dinowitz
And rightfully so. They index this site within minutes of a new post. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Phillip Vector wrote: > > Why... Thank you. :) > > Though most of the time, I'll be lurking. I still fear Google. :) > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > > > **OMG.

Re: File in scary as hell

2010-09-20 Thread Sam
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:10 AM, G Money wrote: > > The choice between Obama and Palin is a laughable one. Good you keep laughing while we swear in a new president. > Independents, you > know...those of us who decide electionsoverwhelmingly supported Obama > against one of the GOP's most a

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