RE: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread Eric Roberts
lol -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 12:19 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: That was quick The job stats are bogus. The stimulus "created" a bunch of jobs that were temporary and are now gone, as did the Census. That's cal

Re: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread Judah McAuley
There is an arguable point about some of the jobs created by the stimulus, but the Census jobs are almost universally excluded from the statistics and the public sector has actually been dragging statistics down for quite some time because all levels of government have been cutting positions due t

Re: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread Robert Munn
The job stats are bogus. The stimulus "created" a bunch of jobs that were temporary and are now gone, as did the Census. That's called faking an economic recovery. The President tried that. The private economy creates jobs that exist because they are part of a value chain that provides products an

College Football: some showed up, some didn't

2010-10-30 Thread Judah McAuley
At least there was some clarity today amongst the major conference big-dawgs. Michigan State and Missouri got whooped. Auburn and Oregon both put up 50+ on the road against good teams. Oregon probably comes out a bit better than Auburn as USC's only two losses were by last second field goals, but

Re: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread Maureen
>From the Bureau of Labor Statistics: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/mmls.t01.htm http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&series_id=CES01&output_view=net_1mth Be interesting to see how you interpret this. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Sam wrote

Re: An October Surprise?

2010-10-30 Thread Maureen
Withdrawal does not equal Win Of course, it's pretty impossible to win when there was no defined purpose. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Sam wrote: > > August, just like promised. > > Why do you think we left? Surrender? > > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Maureen wrote: >> >> We won in

Re: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread Sam
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:10 PM, denstar wrote: > No, I'm talking about removing the checks on power, and the idea that > since they had the power already, we don't need the checks.  Maybe > that was Rob's argument though. I'm pretty sure he didn't say we don't need checks. You just don't like

Re: An October Surprise?

2010-10-30 Thread Bruce Sorge
According to Obama the war is over and they even changed the name from Operation Iraqi Freedom to Operation New Dawn. The 50K soldiers in country are there for training and advising purposes only. They do NOT go out on combat missions. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/

Re: An October Surprise?

2010-10-30 Thread Sam
Are you tattling on me? Really? It's like that now? On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Or reading abilities...like how he asked if that was in 2008 in response to > me posting that unemployment dropped a percentage point since Sept > **2009**...reading is fundamental... >

Re: An October Surprise?

2010-10-30 Thread Sam
Are you calling Obama a liar? He clearly stated the war has ended. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Again sometimes the right wing math abilities are amazing. 50.000 > soldiers stationed in Iraq is not leaving. > ~~

Re: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread Sam
Wasn't popular opinion against the stimulus also? Wasn't that a bi-partisan bill where as they almost didn't have enough democrats to force it through. Sad that our representatives don't represent us but they represent the lobbyists and the bankers and wall street. Yet Wall street is owned bu the

Re: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread Sam
There were no jobs created except census since Obama came to power. We were at 6 or 7 percent when he was sworn in and now 's still six million more people out of work. were at near 10%. You can spin it anyway you want but there's On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Vivec wrote: > > But Robert, >

Re: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread Sam
Doesn't matter you won't listen either way. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Lol :-) > > I wonder what Sam will say to this. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-

Re: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread Sam
And you said politifact wasn't biased :) 4 million lost jobs at the end of the Bush term, 6 million under Obama. No new jobs created except census, and they're finished. So your argument is that people aren't losing jobs as fast as they were? The real story is nobody's getting hired for three yea

Re: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread Maureen
The stimulus bill was passed before the health care bill, and to assume that all his attention was on one bill, and he was doing nothing to solve the other problems totally ignores the reality of the office. Any president who can't multi-task will fail miserably. If he had put his whole focus on

Re: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread Vivec
But Robert, more private-sector jobs were created in the first eight months of 2010 than in the eight years of the Bush administration. I also question the source that the majority of Americans want healthcare reform repealed. "The latest evidence comes from the new Associated Press-GfK poll

Re: ad on youtube...

2010-10-30 Thread morchella
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Re: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread Robert Munn
If the job losses occurred before his policies took hold (and indeed many before he took office), why did he not understand that creating private sector jobs was priority one, two and three from day one? Instead of wasting an entire year on a divisive health care reform plan that the majority of t

Re: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread Vivec
Lol :-) I wonder what Sam will say to this. On 30 October 2010 18:03, Eric Roberts wrote: > > > http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/oct/28/barack-obama/ > obama-says-most-job-loss-occurred-his-economic-pol/

RE: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread Eric Roberts
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/oct/28/barack-obama/ obama-says-most-job-loss-occurred-his-economic-pol/ -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 4:30 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: That was quick On Sat, Oct

Re: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread Sam
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:10 PM, denstar wrote: >> Nobody cares that they're doing it. They just don't want to share the >> word. Abortion is about when life begins, that's a different fight. We >> all care3 about life, when it starts is the dispute. > > "Nobody cares" is blatantly false.  Have y

Re: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread Sam
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Umm...having the majority is not ramming through against the wishes of the > people.  Just because republicans didn't agree doesn't mean it was rammed > through.  A little honesty please instead of repeated the same tired > bullshit from R

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2010-10-30 Thread Eric Roberts
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Re: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread denstar
LOL. This thread just got crushed. :Den -- Justice and truth are too such subtle points that our tools are too blunt to touch them accurately. Blaise Pascal On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Medic wrote: > > Well that's impossible for me. But I am here with your mommy. > > On Sat, Oct 30, 2010

Jon STewart and Stephen Colbert Rally to Restore Hope live

2010-10-30 Thread Vivec
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Re: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread denstar
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 5:58 PM, denstar wrote: >>> Those aren't moral issues. >> >> How is gay marriage not a moral issue?  You think it's a health issue? >>  Infrastructural? > > Nobody cares that they're doing it. They just don't want to share the

Re: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread denstar
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: Agreed! =) :Den -- Justice and power must be brought together, so that whatever is just may be powerful, and whatever is powerful may be just. Blaise Pascal ~| Order the

RE: An October Surprise?

2010-10-30 Thread Eric Roberts
Or reading abilities...like how he asked if that was in 2008 in response to me posting that unemployment dropped a percentage point since Sept **2009**...reading is fundamental... -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 11:4

Re: Video of a Tea Partier

2010-10-30 Thread Jerry Johnson
Brilliant political satire. Thanks for sharing. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Vivec wrote: > > The video contains clips and policy statements from various Tea Party > candidates and supporters over the course of the campaign so far. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnUfPQVOqpw > > A qui

Re: An October Surprise?

2010-10-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Again sometimes the right wing math abilities are amazing. 50.000 soldiers stationed in Iraq is not leaving. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Sam wrote: > > August, just like promised. > > Why do you think we left? Surrender? > > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Maureen wrote: >> >> We won

RE: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread Eric Roberts
You should take your own advice Sam. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 9:51 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: That was quick Grown-ups, now move along and don't come back without yer mommy. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Medic

RE: Video of a Tea Partier

2010-10-30 Thread Eric Roberts
That's awesome! -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 9:31 AM To: cf-community Subject: Video of a Tea Partier The video contains clips and policy statements from various Tea Party candidates and supporters over the course of the ca

RE: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread Eric Roberts
-Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 12:04 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: That was quick On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > That's scary. Real scary. Do you vote :) > > Haven't missed one yet

Re: Video of a Tea Partier

2010-10-30 Thread Medic
It doesn't matter what the outcome of Nov 2nd is. No one winds. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Vivec wrote: > > The video contains clips and policy statements from various Tea Party > candidates and supporters over the course of the campaign so far. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnUfPQV

Re: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread Medic
Well that's impossible for me. But I am here with your mommy. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Sam wrote: > > Grown-ups, now move along and don't come back without yer mommy. > > > On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Medic wrote: > > > > D-Bags only? No, that can't be it, it's not just you Sam.

Re: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread Sam
Grown-ups, now move along and don't come back without yer mommy. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Medic wrote: > > D-Bags only? No, that can't be it, it's not just you Sam. > Hmmm, on to my next guess. > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Sam wrote: > >> >> This is a private thread. >> >> Bea

Video of a Tea Partier

2010-10-30 Thread Vivec
The video contains clips and policy statements from various Tea Party candidates and supporters over the course of the campaign so far. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnUfPQVOqpw A quick check of some sites and these really are things that are being said. :-\ And they are set to win the Nov 2n

Re: That was quick

2010-10-30 Thread Medic
D-Bags only? No, that can't be it, it's not just you Sam. Hmmm, on to my next guess. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Sam wrote: > > This is a private thread. > > Beat it! > > > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Medic wrote: > > > > blah blah blah Hitler. > > > > RIP boring thread. > > > >