Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Maureen
Unless you were born before 1964, which I seriously doubt, you aren't a boomer by any definition. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Sam wrote: > > I'm a boomer. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/A

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Gruss Gott
Robert Munn wrote: > > And true to form he is spending us into a situation where the bank is > going to cut up off our credit And I'm back to agreeing with everything Robert says. All that money you (and all of us) made buying and selling homes starting in the 90s was actually borrowed money.

Re: Glenn Beck took crazy too far...

2011-04-06 Thread Robert Munn
After the financial crisis, Beck was at his best. People watched because he pulled back the curtain on the inside dealings of DC and Wall Street that led to the US taxpayer getting stuck with the bill for the crisis. Advertisers started to dislike him because he called out big corporate names. He

Re: ConflictHistory: visual timeline of worldwide conflict

2011-04-06 Thread Robert Munn
thus, this is a great resource for parents who do not want to leave their child's knowledge of the world up to the public school system ... On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Casey Dougall wrote: > > Sure, but with cutbacks in education, would it be useful to social studies > teachers? >

Glenn Beck took crazy too far...

2011-04-06 Thread Vivec
http://mashable.com/2011/04/06/glenn-beck-leaving-fox/ he's been... CANCELLED He's gone...outta there...not going to pollute the airways anymore with his trolling!! Unfortunately, it was not because of the inanity and divisiveness of his message. No...it was simple economics. He was costin

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Robert Munn
And true to form he is spending us into a situation where the bank is going to cut up off our credit and we're all going to end up living in a flea bag hotel with whores and drunks, like where the Kurgan stayed in Highlander. Just like that. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Sam wrote: > > And Oba

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Sam
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aJHKNW1lro9Y Gotta love this bit: If the GAO issued a report that added together data for nine hot dog stands and General Electric Co., and found that 90 percent of companies didn't pay any tax, it would be a harmless and silly thing to do.

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Sam
Beats the old way wasting time as a community organizer. . On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Medic wrote: > > Good God, that's actually a really good idea. Leadership v1.0 or iLead for > mac users. > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusio

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Sam
Good point, I forgot old people were racist and young folk aren't. Eventually all the greedy racist will die and we'll all get along and hang out in fields listing to concerts and doing acid. Wait, that already happened. . On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Casey Dougall wrote: > > yes > > Racism

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Medic wrote: > > Good God, that's actually a really good idea. Leadership v1.0 or iLead for > mac users. > > government-idol. Might get some more votes if you included TXT all you can eat. ~| O

Amazing half line goal in inter vs Schalke match

2011-04-06 Thread Vivec
Stankovic's amazing goal from Midfield in the Inter vs Schalke match :) Poor keeper! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4WLTCS8cyc&feature=player_embedded ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Col

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Vivec
And just so you don't lose the plot: If those major companies are not paying taxes, you cannot argue that taxes are preventing them from expanding, or hiring more workers. On 6 April 2011 21:36, Vivec wrote: > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-devin/many-us-corporations-not_b_135104.html > > "

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Vivec
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-devin/many-us-corporations-not_b_135104.html "Americans learned that many corporations, including those with assets over $250M, reported no tax liabilities. In fact, from 1998-2005, " So your point is irrelevant. The corporations that could contribute the most

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Sam wrote: > And Obama 's a boomer so we have a few more election cycles before > young folks turn old and they can do it better because ... nevermind. > yes Racismis still a large part of our problems because of who? not X and Y. while it's most likely still go

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Medic
Good God, that's actually a really good idea. Leadership v1.0 or iLead for mac users. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Sam wrote: > > I hear you can gain all the experience necessary to run the country > from a video game. > > . > > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Medic wrote: > > > > What's

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Sam
I hear you can gain all the experience necessary to run the country from a video game. . On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Medic wrote: > > What's it matter anyway. Gen Y is here to save us! Oh, right, they're the > apathetic generation who doesn't give a shit about working... they just want > t

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Sam
Now your'e taking GG's silliness to a whole new level. Labels are so tidy. . On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Casey Dougall wrote: > > Plus it's not cool to live in a previously owned home anymore so they > continue to build when it's not needed. > > Who's to blame there? Not us... Think X-er's

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Sam
And Obama 's a boomer so we have a few more election cycles before young folks turn old and they can do it better because ... nevermind. . On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > The boomers are to blame, Sam, you can't escape your generation's > fecklessness. Don't look at me, I

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Sam
No April Fools’ joke, U.S. now world’s highest corporate taxer http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2011/03/31/no-april-fools-joke-u-s-now-world%E2%80%99s-highest-corporate-taxer/ Now show me yours. . On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Vivec wrote: > > America's largest corporations a

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Medic
What's it matter anyway. Gen Y is here to save us! Oh, right, they're the apathetic generation who doesn't give a shit about working... they just want to use facebook and read FML. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Casey Dougall < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8

Re: ConflictHistory: visual timeline of worldwide conflict

2011-04-06 Thread Medic
Very. I only glanced at it briefly at work and maybe I missed it, but is there a "play" button? On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > kick-ass resource! > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Judah McAuley > wrote: > > > > This goes out to all the history/military geeks out ther

Re: ConflictHistory: visual timeline of worldwide conflict

2011-04-06 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > kick-ass resource! > > Sure, but with cutbacks in education, would it be useful to social studies teachers? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > The boomers are to blame, Sam, you can't escape your generation's > fecklessness. Don't look at me, I wanted to reform Social Security > twenty years ago. I'm an X-er and I bought my first house in 1996 for > $175K. I sold it two years later

Re: ConflictHistory: visual timeline of worldwide conflict

2011-04-06 Thread Robert Munn
kick-ass resource! On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > This goes out to all the history/military geeks out there, not to > mention UI nerds. A timeline based, Google Maps/Wikipedia mashup that > lays out the basics of all the worlds conflicts for the past roughly > 5000 yea

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Robert Munn
The boomers are to blame, Sam, you can't escape your generation's fecklessness. Don't look at me, I wanted to reform Social Security twenty years ago. I'm an X-er and I bought my first house in 1996 for $175K. I sold it two years later for $265K. I bought my second house for $300K, sold it for $50

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Medic wrote: > > > > > Nope. In 1995 people put down 20% of there homes value to buy it. > > Years later 0% down and no interest for five years became the norm. > > Like when Gen-xers started buying homes. You know, the ones that > > didn't get spanked but sent to

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Vivec
America's largest corporations are NOT paying anywhere near those rates. So I have to say that your argument isn't relevant, the reality is quite different. On 6 April 2011 19:50, Sam wrote: > No, but I think I read that the US just became the highest corporate tax rate. ~~

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Medic
> > Nope. In 1995 people put down 20% of there homes value to buy it. > Years later 0% down and no interest for five years became the norm. > Like when Gen-xers started buying homes. You know, the ones that > didn't get spanked but sent to time-out. The ones that didn't keep > score so as to not i

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Sam
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Punish them with taxes? > Are you aware that the largest corporations in America pay almost ZERO > tax right now? No, but I think I read that the US just became the highest corporate tax rate. > After what happened in the Financial market you are

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Vivec
Punish them with taxes? Are you aware that the largest corporations in America pay almost ZERO tax right now? After what happened in the Financial market you are still promoting LESS regulations? You have not yet realised that a capitalist economy only functions properly to the benefit of all wh

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Sam
I'm a boomer. Carlin is mocking himself. . On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Considering I am probably the only actual Baby Boomer on this list, I > will state that I don't find any of the below applies to me or my > peers, but more to those born in the 60s and 70s - the so-c

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Sam
That's too obvious :) . On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Jeff Garza wrote: > > Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com] wrote: >> Blame whomever you like, but you're going back to 1999.  hey!  party like > it's 1999! > > Now if we could just maybe reduce the size of government to 1999 levels we

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Sam
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > Beginning in about 1995 (give or take) people started borrowing bunch, > which meant spending, which mean more borrowing which meant more > spending! Nope. In 1995 people put down 20% of there homes value to buy it. Years later 0% down and no

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Maureen
I stand corrected. If George said it, it must be true. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:10 PM, G Money wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Maureen wrote: > >> >> Considering I am probably the only actual Baby Boomer on this list, I >> will state that I don't find any of the below applies to me

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread G Money
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Considering I am probably the only actual Baby Boomer on this list, I > will state that I don't find any of the below applies to me or my > peers, but more to those born in the 60s and 70s - the so-called Me > Generation. And most boomers are w

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Maureen
Considering I am probably the only actual Baby Boomer on this list, I will state that I don't find any of the below applies to me or my peers, but more to those born in the 60s and 70s - the so-called Me Generation. And most boomers are way past middle age and heading for retirement. So I think

RE: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Jeff Garza
Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com] wrote: > Blame whomever you like, but you're going back to 1999. hey! party like it's 1999! Now if we could just maybe reduce the size of government to 1999 levels we might just be on the right track... ~~~

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Gruss Gott
Sam wrote: > > Really? Is that what they taught you in Gen-x camp? Stomp your feet > and demand you're right. > > Damn the facts! Nope, they taught me what a loan is. See that the illusion of wealth you have - loans. A home is loan. Beginning in about 1995 (give or take) people started borrow

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Sam
Really? Is that what they taught you in Gen-x camp? Stomp your feet and demand you're right. Damn the facts! . On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Sam wrote: >> >> BS. In the last two years everything has changed. >> > > In a decade we have zero to negative growth when you a

Re: ConflictHistory: visual timeline of worldwide conflict

2011-04-06 Thread Judah McAuley
Early 1600s On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Casey Dougall wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> >> super cool! >> >> > > Has anyone found a period where there isn't a war in the middle east? > ~| O

Re: ConflictHistory: visual timeline of worldwide conflict

2011-04-06 Thread Ras Tafari
my gf just asked me the same question k-sea On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Casey Dougall wrote: > Has anyone found a period where there isn't a war in the middle east? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.a

Re: ConflictHistory: visual timeline of worldwide conflict

2011-04-06 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > super cool! > > Has anyone found a period where there isn't a war in the middle east? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-A

Re: ConflictHistory: visual timeline of worldwide conflict

2011-04-06 Thread Gruss Gott
super cool! On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > This goes out to all the history/military geeks out there, not to > mention UI nerds. A timeline based, Google Maps/Wikipedia mashup that > lays out the basics of all the worlds conflicts for the past roughly > 5000 years. > >

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Gruss Gott
Sam wrote: > > BS. In the last two years everything has changed. > In a decade we have zero to negative growth when you account for leverage, we have massively expanded government, and we have a sky rocketing deficit. I get they don't they don't teach that stuff at Bush cheerleading camp, but f

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Sam
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Well you make a good point: the system itself *is* mostly sound.  I > would argue that we should really consider putting something in place > that prevents the kick-the-can-down-road policy ease we have now, but, > to your point, the system al

ConflictHistory: visual timeline of worldwide conflict

2011-04-06 Thread Judah McAuley
This goes out to all the history/military geeks out there, not to mention UI nerds. A timeline based, Google Maps/Wikipedia mashup that lays out the basics of all the worlds conflicts for the past roughly 5000 years. http://conflicthistory.com Neat stuff. Judah

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Sam
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > If you scrub the dates and events from policy positions over the last > 30 years nobody can tell the difference (try it!  Lots of think-tanks > have and the results are all the same). BS. In the last two years everything has changed. > Gove

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Gruss Gott
G Money wrote: > > Why is different necessarily better? > > I'm pretty happy with the system we villains have built, in all honesty...i > think it works pretty well. It will survive all of this, and probably come > out better on the other end. Or, it may come out just the same on the other > end.

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread G Money
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > The truth is we, the voters (and non-voters), are the villains because > we've allowed ourselves to create a system and leadership that > presents the illusion of difference but provides the horror > homogeneity. > > Why is different necessa

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Gruss Gott
Sam wrote: > > some crap If you scrub the dates and events from policy positions over the last 30 years nobody can tell the difference (try it! Lots of think-tanks have and the results are all the same). Government spending (and size) has grown consistently and we've had zero or negative wealt

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > > (apologies the boomers on this list for my upcoming rant - I'm sure > > you're not included :) > > > Their parents saved America and then raised a bunch of kids who've > > never heard the

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Gruss Gott
G Money wrote: > > Once again, i leave it to The Master to describe the baby boomers: > > The Baby Boomers: whiny, narcissistic, self-indulgent people with a simple > philosophy: "Gimme that! It's mine!" That. Was awesome. ~|

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Sam
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > (apologies the boomers on this list for my upcoming rant - I'm sure > you're not included :) > Their parents saved America and then raised a bunch of kids who've > never heard the word no. You mean Gen-x. Baby Boomers grew up with Father Kn

Re: Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread G Money
Once again, i leave it to The Master to describe the baby boomers: The Baby Boomers: whiny, narcissistic, self-indulgent people with a simple philosophy: "Gimme that! It's mine!" These people were given everything, everything was handed to them, and they took it all, sold it all; sex, drugs, and

Baby Boomers = Generation The Ruined America

2011-04-06 Thread Gruss Gott
Casey Dougall wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Robert Munn wrote: >> >> None of this jockeying matters. Once the dollar is knocked off its >> perch as the world's reserve currency, we're Argentina. (apologies the boomers on this list for my upcoming rant - I'm sure you're not included

RE: Holy CRAP!

2011-04-06 Thread Eric Roberts
Holy crap is right! -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 21:20 To: cf-community Subject: Holy CRAP! Speaking of smart phone apps in the bathroom ... you might not want to watch this unless you're sitting on the toity: http://w

RE: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-06 Thread Eric Roberts
I'll have to pick that up...Thanks for the tip Gruss. -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 21:07 To: cf-community Subject: Re: [politics] confused about shutdown You talking about this book? http://www.amazon.com/Lords-Finance-Bank

Re: Stephen King's Dark Tower - movie!

2011-04-06 Thread G Money
Yeah, i enjoy his writing so much though, that I tend to enjoy his books even when the subject matter doesn't really interest me (Duma Key) or the story itself is long and boring (Lisey's Story). On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > Yeah, it's not for everyone, and it certai

Re: Stephen King's Dark Tower - movie!

2011-04-06 Thread G Money
I find very few of Kings books dreary or depressingwith a notable exception: - Desperation. The entire mood and setting of this book is justlonely and depressing. Permeates the novel. Even the "happy ending" has a sense of lonely...well...desperation...to it. Great book. On Wed, Apr 6,

Re: Stephen King's Dark Tower - movie!

2011-04-06 Thread Ray Champagne
Yeah, it's not for everyone, and it certainly isn't like anything he has written. It took me several tries in high school before my mind accepted the weirdness for what it was. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:30 AM, G Money wrote: > > As a lover of King, I'm disappointed in myself for never getting

Re: Stephen King's Dark Tower - movie!

2011-04-06 Thread Vivec
It's dark, dreary..and utterly depressing as much of King's work. bleh. :-| ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.hou

Re: Stephen King's Dark Tower - movie!

2011-04-06 Thread G Money
As a lover of King, I'm disappointed in myself for never getting into the Dark Tower series. I read one of them many years ago, and didn't really like it...and then never gave them a second chance. King books have made for some pretty awful movies, with a few exceptions (Christine, Carrie, etc.),

Stephen King's Dark Tower - movie!

2011-04-06 Thread Ray Champagne
So it looks like The Dark Tower series is going to be made into a set of movies by...Ron Howard! http://www.darktowermovies.com/20101221/ron-howard-on-movie-progress-and-casting-talk/ I'm pretty stoked about this, not sure who else has kept up with that series, but it is crazy imaginative, and p

Re: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-06 Thread Casey Dougall
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > None of this jockeying matters. Once the dollar is knocked off its > perch as the world's reserve currency, we're Argentina. Either we get > there by debt crisis through over-spending to maintain social > stability, or we get there through c

Re: http://www.billandted3.com/

2011-04-06 Thread Yves Arsenault
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Re: http://www.billandted3.com/

2011-04-06 Thread Casey Dougall
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Re: http://www.billandted3.com/

2011-04-06 Thread Chris Stoner
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