RE: Coldfucion 9 and ORM

2011-09-20 Thread Andrew Scott
ColdFusion 9.01 can work with multiple datasources in ORM. --  Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/108193156965451149543 -Original Message- From: Tom (J7 Group) [mailto:t...@j7group.net] Sent: Wednesday, 21 September 2011 1:29 AM

RE: Another WMD debate?

2011-09-20 Thread Eric Roberts
No...Clinton said we didn't have enough evidence to convict him so it would be a waste of time, money and potentially, lives to go and try to arrest him at the time. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 2:32 PM To: cf-community Subj

RE: Another WMD debate?

2011-09-20 Thread Eric Roberts
Actually...no he didn't...remember the link to al-Qaida was long since shown to be false and that he was just as much a target of al-Qaida as we were. They didn't like Hussein because he was a secular leader and did not impose Sharia law in Iraq. Baathists and Wahabbists (sp?) are not friendly to

RE: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread Eric Roberts
Actually that does have to do with evolution...we inherited diabetes from Neandertals ... -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:26 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll Fine think that way, especi

Re: My new toy.

2011-09-20 Thread Judah McAuley
Last year, mid October, I heard an odd sound outside and walked out the front porch to notice a Tom and a Hen wandering down the sidewalk. I recognized them as being escapees from the neighbor around the corner. I have plenty of experience with chickens but wasn't quite sure that the same approach

Re: My new toy.

2011-09-20 Thread Maureen
I'm not sure what the laws are out here about shipping, but I'll ask the boy toy if he wants to wrestle one off the roof. If you're my facebook friend, there are some photos of the turkeys in one of my albums. On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 6:53 PM, morchella wrote: > > i would just like to taste a fr

Re: My new toy.

2011-09-20 Thread morchella
i would just like to taste a fresh wild turkey. would not like to kill it. any way you could through one in an ice packed box to ohio before thanksgiving? seriously, i would pay shipping. if you have 40, start feeding them some sweet corn.. get them real comfy with you. =] why am i so food motivat

Re: My new toy.

2011-09-20 Thread Medic
Sweet Jebus. That's a big bird. On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Maureen wrote: > > If you wanna come to California on a hunting trip, I have about 50 > huge wild turkeys that converge on my roof every morning. Some of > them are nearly as tall as me. (4'11"). I would not cry if someone > wa

Re: My new toy.

2011-09-20 Thread Maureen
If you wanna come to California on a hunting trip, I have about 50 huge wild turkeys that converge on my roof every morning. Some of them are nearly as tall as me. (4'11"). I would not cry if someone wanted them for dinner. Then I might actually get to sleep past dawn. On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at

Re: My new toy.

2011-09-20 Thread Medic
In reality I've bagged so few ducks that maybe I should consider putting more lead into the air. On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Medic wrote: > Big guns. There's really nothing on that table that interests me though. > I don't need to destroy a village, just take down a duck and eat it. > >

Re: My new toy.

2011-09-20 Thread Medic
Big guns. There's really nothing on that table that interests me though. I don't need to destroy a village, just take down a duck and eat it. On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:04 PM, morchella wrote: > > shoulda gota saiga12 > > https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/HMXOvCbtAcDpwpHo9S7WVg?feat=directli

Re: My new toy.

2011-09-20 Thread morchella
shoulda gota saiga12 https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/HMXOvCbtAcDpwpHo9S7WVg?feat=directlink ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Arc

Re: Another WMD debate?

2011-09-20 Thread Gruss Gott
Nailed it. Yeah, because Bush decided that since things were probably wrapped up in Aafghanistan - the actual people that actually did attack us - he'd move on to other objectives. And he got spanked and a lot US troops needlessly died. That the exact same strategic mistake Hitler made with S

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread Gruss Gott
But that's like saying an iPhone is a fact but the description isn't. Maybe the miss here is that a theory describes interaction and makes predictions about other facts. On Sep 20, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > > There are two things goin on here, the THEORY of evolution and the

Re: Another WMD debate?

2011-09-20 Thread Judah McAuley
So we've backed down all the way from Weapons of Mass Destruction! to "a task force to kill Americans". A task force, we might add, that had no possibility of doing anything other thing other than bluster toward its "goal". Sam, this is why I think you are what is wrong with this country. Persona

Re: Another WMD debate?

2011-09-20 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Sam wrote: > He set up a task force to kill Americans. That right there is enough > for me. He was also two weeks away from producing them and very > adamant about doing so as soon as the sanctions were lifted. Please do > not dishonor those that served and died

Re: Another WMD debate?

2011-09-20 Thread Sam
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:44 PM, GMoney wrote: > > This is a difficult if not impossible question to answer, but how would you > have felt if your son or daughter had been sent to Iraq and killed in the > battle to disarm Iraq of the WMD's that he didn't have, and wasn't really > that close to ha

Re: Another WMD debate?

2011-09-20 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Sam wrote: > > Or... you could think that when someone is constantly attacking and > promising to do more harm do you ignore them or do you disarm them > before larger wars are needed. We waited too long the first time so we > jumped the gun a little the second.

Re: Another WMD debate?

2011-09-20 Thread Sam
Or... you could think that when someone is constantly attacking and promising to do more harm do you ignore them or do you disarm them before larger wars are needed. We waited too long the first time so we jumped the gun a little the second. It did end up being a threat that needed to be dealt wit

Re: Another WMD debate?

2011-09-20 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Sam wrote: > > Because in hindsight we know how urgent the threat was and you still > don't think it was enough. > because i'm not going to apply what I know now, to what I knew then. And you shouldn't either. It's like you bent down to pick up a stick, and it

Re: Another WMD debate?

2011-09-20 Thread Sam
Because in hindsight we know how urgent the threat was and you still don't think it was enough. . On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:03 PM, GMoney wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Sam wrote: > >> >> So war is always wrong. You should support Paul. >> > > Nope, I obviously didn't say that, wh

Re: Another WMD debate?

2011-09-20 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Sam wrote: > > So war is always wrong. You should support Paul. > Nope, I obviously didn't say that, why would you make that leap? That's not a very honest debate tactic. I simply feel that a MUCH more urgent threat would be required to justify a pre-emptive wa

Re: Another WMD debate?

2011-09-20 Thread Sam
So war is always wrong. You should support Paul. . On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:42 PM, GMoney wrote: > > HA! I doubt it...since OBL had already pulled off a couple of successful big > time operations. > > But, if Clinton HAD suggested that OBL's operations to date did not warrant > starting a two-

Re: Another WMD debate?

2011-09-20 Thread GMoney
HA! I doubt it...since OBL had already pulled off a couple of successful big time operations. But, if Clinton HAD suggested that OBL's operations to date did not warrant starting a two-front war in which thousands would be killed.he would have been right. On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Sam

Re: Another WMD debate?

2011-09-20 Thread Sam
That's probably what the Clinton team said about bin Laden. . On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:27 PM, GMoney wrote: > > something for your conservative bulletin board: YES, we should have risked > thousand, maybe millions, of American lives and NOT invaded Iraq...because > the chance that Saddam was

Re: Another WMD debate?

2011-09-20 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Sam wrote: > > Ah semantics. The reports states they were working on something > similar to anthrax and the only possible reason was to use it to make > anthrax. But technically it wasn't anthrax. > > It also stated many of BW scientists set up shop in local univ

Re: Another WMD debate?

2011-09-20 Thread Sam
Ah semantics. The reports states they were working on something similar to anthrax and the only possible reason was to use it to make anthrax. But technically it wasn't anthrax. It also stated many of BW scientists set up shop in local universities and did parallel research without explanations.

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread Larry Lyons
There are two things goin on here, the THEORY of evolution and the FACT of evolution. The theory tries to explain the mechanism involved. That's the scientific theory. The fact is that evolution happens, it is the change of allels over time. That is reality. >Very true. but evolution is one o

Re: Another WMD debate?

2011-09-20 Thread Larry Lyons
YOu really are into strange fantasies. This one is almost as good as "Precious Bodily Fluids." Only slightly less wack. I mean really don't you neo-cons ever stop? Or is your almost sexual obsession with self jusification is all consuming for you. There are enough problems, most of which you p

Re: Another WMD debate?

2011-09-20 Thread Judah McAuley
Sam, you tout the Duelfer Commission report as supporting your views on 2001-era Iraq and yet you keep repeating lies directly contradicted by that very same report. On BW research in Iraq Universities: "ISG is aware of BW-applicable research since 1996, but ISG judges it was not conducted in co

Re: Another WMD debate?

2011-09-20 Thread Maureen
Substantially fewer than died in the response. On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Sam wrote: > > He set up a force to kill Americans and was working with terrorists > and kept his BW research active in universities. Tell me how many > Americans were supposed to die before we responded? ~

Re: handicapping the race

2011-09-20 Thread Sam
Romney couldn't beat McCain last time and Hunstman is more of a lefty than McCain. Those are best case scenarios for you to keep your boy in office. And it looks like Hillary might be the one to beat. . On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Or nominating anyone but Romney or h

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread Gruss Gott
Yeah because I'll hold at all *tested* theories are fact. Like all facts, new information may come to light that supersedes the old fact, but it doesn't ever prove it wrong. It can't. That's the whole point of testing. So, yes, all tested scientific theories are fact. On Sep 20, 2011, at

Re: Another WMD debate?

2011-09-20 Thread Sam
He set up a force to kill Americans and was working with terrorists and kept his BW research active in universities. Tell me how many Americans were supposed to die before we responded? . On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > I thought your point was that hussein's threat justi

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread Sam
And last week we discussed this and I mentioned this list: http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-most-famous-scientific-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-wrong.php Then I mentioned this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory Essential criteria - It is supported by many strands of evidence, rat

Re: handicapping the race

2011-09-20 Thread Gruss Gott
Or nominating anyone but Romney or huntsman. If perry or Bachman or any of those other dolts were nominated Obama doesn't lose a state. On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Sam wrote: > > Sadly, that's his only chance of getting re-elected. > > . > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Larry Lyon

Re: Another WMD debate?

2011-09-20 Thread Gruss Gott
I thought your point was that hussein's threat justified our invasion of iraq; if so, I'm pointing out that it didn't and was a strategic blunder. Were you making a different point? On Sep 20, 2011, at 7:32 AM, Sam wrote: > > So you changed the goal post again? > > Whatever floats your bo

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread GMoney
Yeah, you are correct. I will now quibble even with people who don't want to call it a "fact"...and i'll point out that it is an actual, measurable fact. Cool, more reason to argue with people :) On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Technically, evolution is a fact. You c

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread Judah McAuley
Technically, evolution is a fact. You can design and execute a test that explicitly shows variation of traits from one generation to the next in response to a selective force. You can map the frequency of alleles and show the predicted adaptive traits as a changed frequency in the studied populati

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread Dana
mmm well the essence of science is that it is not dogma, is what I hear you saying. And any new evidence should of course be weighed. But -- what Maureen said. They don't call it a theory until there's already a LOT of evidence to support the model. Sure, something new COULD come to light that wo

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Yes, but HOW did he do it? He's God, right? So he can use any tool > at his disposal to carry out creation. > > "In the beginning, using the mechanism of evolution, a wee bit of > terraforming and a really big bang, God created the heavens

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread Maureen
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:10 AM, GMoney wrote: > > All theories need more testing. > > Science never stops testing...they never say "welp, that's the end of that!" > > (Course, that's exactly what Intelligent Design does.God did it. QED!) Yes, but HOW did he do it? He's God, right? So he

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread Maureen
According to the United States National Academy of Sciences, Some scientific explanations are so well established that no new evidence is likely to alter them. The explanation becomes a scientific theory. In everyday language a theory means a hunch or speculation. Not so in science. In science, th

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Dana wrote: > > the term "theory" has a very specific meaning in science. I am not sure > which theory would need more testing. AFAIK it would not be considered a > theory if it did. > All theories need more testing. Science never stops testing...they never sa

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread Dana
the term "theory" has a very specific meaning in science. I am not sure which theory would need more testing. AFAIK it would not be considered a theory if it did. If you're saying that there is a lot out there that we don't understand, then fine. True. But I think your logic is a little fuzzy too

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Sam wrote: > > Actually, I'm saying many theories can be assumed to be facts, like > evolution, while many are not. Then there's plenty in the middle that > need more testing. > Sure, we treat them as facts, because for all intents and purposes..they are. But

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread Sam
Actually, I'm saying many theories can be assumed to be facts, like evolution, while many are not. Then there's plenty in the middle that need more testing. Larry mumbled something about evolution and insulin as proof all theories are facts. . On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:38 PM, GMoney wrote: >

Re: Coldfucion 9 and ORM

2011-09-20 Thread Justin Scott
> We have an application that uses several data sources, and have > read an article that says; Hibernate integration can work with only > one data source within a given ColdFusion application. > If this is the case, then is there a way around this? Hi Tom, the 9.0.1 release now supports multiple

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Sam wrote: > > When did I ever say that? > > The issue is whether every scientific theory is fact. To take one > theory and write the law of theory on that is stupid. > > We had this discussion and anyone with a clue realizes that not all > scientific theories p

Re: handicapping the race

2011-09-20 Thread Sam
Sadly, that's his only chance of getting re-elected. . On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Larry Lyons wrote: > > By the time the republicon party has chosen it nominee they are going to be > so damaged by the process that Obama may not need a working group to dig up > the dirt on the candidate

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread Sam
When did I ever say that? The issue is whether every scientific theory is fact. To take one theory and write the law of theory on that is stupid. We had this discussion and anyone with a clue realizes that not all scientific theories prove to be true. That's why they are theories and not laws.

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread Dana
oh god. You're making me side with Larry. But seriously, Sam, you seem to be saying that the theory of evolution is just something somebody thought up one Friday night after a few beers. I'm pretty sure that is the position that Larry is trying to take issue with in his passive-aggressive and ped

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread Sam
WTF? Are you on mushrooms? Are you saying all theories are fact and proof is evolution? Sober up man and make a coherent statement so I can rip it apart properly. . On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Larry Lyons wrote: > > Fine think that way, especially when you get in an accident and need >

Re: My new toy.

2011-09-20 Thread Larry Lyons
>Wabbit season Duck Season! Wabbit! Duck! - I'm going to have to watch that again. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=hou

Re: handicapping the race

2011-09-20 Thread Larry Lyons
By the time the republicon party has chosen it nominee they are going to be so damaged by the process that Obama may not need a working group to dig up the dirt on the candidate - the republicon party will have done the work for them. > It's Obama/Biden vs Romney/Rubio > > The economy and "pea

Coldfucion 9 and ORM

2011-09-20 Thread Tom (J7 Group)
Hi, We have an application that uses several data sources, and have read an article (http://www.adobe.com/devnet/coldfusion/articles/coldfusion9_orm.html) that says; Hibernate integration can work with only one data source within a given ColdFusion application. If this is the case, then

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread Larry Lyons
Fine think that way, especially when you get in an accident and need antibiotics for instance. Or if you develop diabetes (cannot have anything based on evolution you know). Such stupidity may kill you, its the collateral damage you'd be causing that is worrisome. >You just refuse to learn? >

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread Larry Lyons
Unlike American elections, the reality of scientific theories do not depend on a popularity or a beauty contest. As Galileo said as he kissed the Pope's foot after recanting the heliocentric theory of the solar system, "It still moves." In other words despite wishes to the contrary, reality is.

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread Larry Lyons
That is rich, neither Huntsman or McCain not a republican? simply amazing that people actually think that. The sheer mind boggling nature of that statement. The inmates have truly taken over the asylum. >That's because he's not a republican. > >We put up a dem last cycle to please the foaming

Re: You are awesome!

2011-09-20 Thread Larry Lyons
>> Damn Justin I wish I knew. I was there as well. It would have >> been cool to havea couple of beer. perhaps next year. > >Indeed! If there's one thing I took away from this conference, it's >that I need to attend more conferences. :) > > It looks like RIA Con will be on again next year. That

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > > > If he doesn't accept the theory then he's a whack job. > > > > Irrelevant, since a majority (61%) of the Republican Party agrees with > Paul. > If it's delusional, that makes it

Re: handicapping the race

2011-09-20 Thread Sam
We got nobody running against a guy that will barely get his own party's nomination. Sad. . On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > It's Obama/Biden vs Romney/Rubio > > The economy and "peak" strategy determines the winner.  At this point I'm > voting for Romney. > ~~

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread Sam
http://www.gallup.com/poll/21811/american-beliefs-evolution-vs-bibles-explanation-human-origins.aspx Same numbers for all Americans. Wonder why Gallup re-packaged it as a Republican only thing. . On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > strike the 61%, here is the full data, th

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread Sam
You just refuse to learn? Stubborn fool. . On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > If he doesn't accept the theory then he's a whack job. > > Scientifare theories are facts and never proven wrong only superseded, I.e., > the theory of general relativity superseded newtons theor

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread Sam
That's because he's not a republican. We put up a dem last cycle to please the foaming mouths and they still chose the clown with no experience or plan. That won't happen again. . On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Huntsman is one of the few Republicans I would even consider

Re: Another WMD debate?

2011-09-20 Thread Sam
So you changed the goal post again? Whatever floats your boat dude. . On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:05 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Don't worry, there's simply no debate here. > > It's like arguing that Hitler didn't make a mistake when he split his forces > to go after Leningrad and stalingrad at t

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread Maureen
It doesn't matter who the majority of the Republicans agree with, it matters who the majority of the voters agree with. He might get the Repub nomination, although that is doubtful, but he is not electable, and his stance on evolution is one of the reasons. Although it is not as damaging as his s

Re: ron paul wins ca straw poll

2011-09-20 Thread Robert Munn
strike the 61%, here is the full data, though: http://www.gallup.com/poll/27847/majority-republicans-doubt-theory-evolution.aspx On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> >> If he doesn't accept the theory then he's a w