Re: Govt GPS Tracker on your Car?

Pick and choose. I then go on to say "Now they can just shove a $50 tracker under your bumper and call it a day. At that price, why not use them whenever possible, even for no good reason?" That was sarcasm, but probably not far off from someone's thinking. If you are going to spend the re

RE: Govt GPS Tracker on your Car?

Yes they do. Un less they see something illegal...like an open bottle of alcohol, a firearm, drugs...stuff like that...they have to get your permission or get a warrant. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 10:38 AM To

RE: Govt GPS Tracker on your Car?

Yep...that is why police can't search it without your consent. They have to get you to agree to it or get a warrant. -Original Message- From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:23 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Govt GPS Tracker on your Car? On We

RE: Penn State

That is troubling...from all involved. They should have nailed this guy to the wall immediately. -Original Message- From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 7:38 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Penn State http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/11/07/sandu

Re: Wow. Elections and voters surprise me with common sense

Yeah. Let's not get carried away. We still can't buy a drink in a restaurant on a Sunday here in Union County ... We MIGHT get it on the ballot next year, but we only *JUST* got alcohol full stop this past November. And - as an aside... I now have my alcohol license and am legal to bartend! Yay!

Re: Govt GPS Tracker on your Car?

you said: PT cft...@gmail.com via houseoffusion.com reply-tocf-community@houseoffusion.com to cf-community dateWed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:52 AM subject Re: Govt GPS Tracker on your Car? mailed-by houseoffusion.com Important mainly because of your interaction with messa

Re: Govt GPS Tracker on your Car?

I can see I could have been more clear, but still... Gruss summed it up perfectly. On 11/9/2011 1:54 PM, Vivec wrote: > > I can see the logic, but i also understand that's not what you meant :-) > > On 9 November 2011 14:35, PT wrote: ~~~

Re: Govt GPS Tracker on your Car?

I can see the logic, but i also understand that's not what you meant :-) On 9 November 2011 14:35, PT wrote: > > WTF are you talking about? > > Nowhere did I suggest such a thing and I don't know how you made that > leap in logic. > > ~~

Re: Govt GPS Tracker on your Car?

Jefferson? - "Because I can lie beautiful true things into existence ..." Neil Gaiman on Why I write. On 11/9/2011 1:40 PM, Sam wrote: > > Not worse, but just as bad as anyone else. > Come on really? > Can't you folks admit he might be a little bit worse than at least one person? ~~

Re: Govt GPS Tracker on your Car?

That's the difference. For example, due to ease of use, should the govt be able to track everyone's movements car or not? Should they be able to listen all outdoor conversations? There needs to be a level of oversight and until very recently that existed if only because justifying the expens

Re: Govt GPS Tracker on your Car?

Not worse, but just as bad as anyone else. Come on really? Can't you folks admit he might be a little bit worse than at least one person? . On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > On Nov 9, 2011, at 9:04 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > >> (hate, hate, hate Obama on this topic. He

Re: Govt GPS Tracker on your Car?

WTF are you talking about? Nowhere did I suggest such a thing and I don't know how you made that leap in logic. On 11/9/2011 1:01 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > So its OK if it costs a certain amount? > > let me guess you have shares in Haliburton and Bechtel. by that logic > as long as it costs

Re: Govt GPS Tracker on your Car?

On Nov 9, 2011, at 9:04 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > (hate, hate, hate Obama on this topic. He is as bad as anyone in US history > on the removal of personal liberty and privacy) Yup ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology

Re: Govt GPS Tracker on your Car?

? Wait. Where did that come from? On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > So its OK if it costs a certain amount? > > let me guess you have shares in Haliburton and Bechtel. by that logic > as long as it costs a lot then its constitutionally permissible? > > On Wed, Nov 9, 201

Re: Govt GPS Tracker on your Car?

So its OK if it costs a certain amount? let me guess you have shares in Haliburton and Bechtel. by that logic as long as it costs a lot then its constitutionally permissible? On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:52 AM, PT wrote: > > What is >  > the difference here. > > The ease of which it can be done. >

Re: Govt GPS Tracker on your Car?

What is > the difference here. The ease of which it can be done. If the FBI is going to assign 100 agents to tail you, they obviously have singled you out for something serious. Those 100 agents represent a large amount of resources. Now they can just shove a $50 tracker under your bumper a

Re: Govt GPS Tracker on your Car?

Remember too the police don't need a search warrant to search a car, even though it is private property. You're in public so there should be little or no expectation of privacy. The GPS issue is the same as if the FBI had details 100 agents to follow the guy around. What is the difference here. O

Re: Wow. Elections and voters surprise me with common sense

That MS personhood shit was typical religious douchebaggery...trying to get their bullshit through when voter turnout is going to be low because they KNOW that what they want is nowhere near what the majority of people want. Glad it didn't work. On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson

Re: Govt GPS Tracker on your Car?

That's different. IF the guy owns the car, sure he can put a tracker on it. On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > IIRC, an appeals court up in the frozen tundra somewhere (MINN? WISC?) > ruled that there was no law broken when a husband installed a gps tracker > on his e

Re: Govt GPS Tracker on your Car?

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:22 AM, GMoney wrote: > BUT...your car is your personal property, no matter where you take it, and > people...or the government...shouldn't be allowed to tamper with it. > I wonder who that device belongs to now? If you find it on your car, and there was no court order

Re: Govt GPS Tracker on your Car?

IIRC, an appeals court up in the frozen tundra somewhere (MINN? WISC?) ruled that there was no law broken when a husband installed a gps tracker on his estranged wife's car to help him stalk her. So why shouldn't the gubbermint be able to stalk people? (hate, hate, hate Obama on this topic. He i

Re: Govt GPS Tracker on your Car?

radio shack. $22 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:22 AM, GMoney wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> >> "The Obama administration will be defending the warrantless use of such >> trackers in front of the Supreme Court on Tuesday morning. The >> administration, which is att

Re: Wow. Elections and voters surprise me with common sense

AWESOME!! :) We can all have hope heh heh. On 9 November 2011 10:28, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > MS defeats "personhood" amendment > OH defaults anti-collective bargaining law > Pearce in AZ gets defeated by a newbie with no money > GA repeals blue law. > > MS voting suppression law was disa

Re: Wow. Elections and voters surprise me with common sense

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > GA repeals blue law. > Actually, only certain localities repealed it, luckily including the one I live in. Certain other counties and cities within GA did not repeal it, I think (mainly) votes in those areas have been delayed and the

Wow. Elections and voters surprise me with common sense

MS defeats "personhood" amendment OH defaults anti-collective bargaining law Pearce in AZ gets defeated by a newbie with no money GA repeals blue law. MS voting suppression law was disappointing, though. ~| Order the Adobe Cold

Re: Govt GPS Tracker on your Car?

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > "The Obama administration will be defending the warrantless use of such > trackers in front of the Supreme Court on Tuesday morning. The > administration, which is attempting to overturn a lower court ruling that > threw out a drug dealer’s c

Govt GPS Tracker on your Car?

"The Obama administration will be defending the warrantless use of such trackers in front of the Supreme Court on Tuesday morning. The administration, which is attempting to overturn a lower court ruling that threw out a drug dealer’s conviction over the warrantless use of a tracker, argues t

Re: Flash is Dead!! Long live HTML5

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > I think flash will always have a place, probably moved into an > enterprise position. There are two major things that HTML 5 doesn't > support out of the box, streaming and digital rights management. Flash > does both. > I think it will rema

Re: Penn State

This man's life deserves to be over. On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > Wow. That document is public? This man's life as he used to know it is now > over. He'd be lucky to get out of county lockup alive or at least > untouched. Total ick. I couldn't get past Victim 1. > >

Re: Penn State

Wow. That document is public? This man's life as he used to know it is now over. He'd be lucky to get out of county lockup alive or at least untouched. Total ick. I couldn't get past Victim 1. I even feel sorry for the jurors and the courtroom workers that will have to listen to this, never mind

Re: Flash is Dead!! Long live HTML5

I think flash will always have a place, probably moved into an enterprise position. There are two major things that HTML 5 doesn't support out of the box, streaming and digital rights management. Flash does both. The jist I got from reading the brief is that the focus will be on making sure that

Re: Penn State

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/11/07/sandusky_grand_jury_presentment.pdf Yuck. On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Do you have a link? > > -Original Message- > From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 08,

Re: ColdPlay

I like the song...just hate the title. On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Well...it is Coldplay G... > > -Original Message- > From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 12:25 PM > To: cf-community >

Re: Flash is Dead!! Long live HTML5

This move has been telegraphed by Adobe for awhile. Number of times the word Flash came up in Day One Keynote at MAX? Zero. It was all about Phone Gap and HTML5. They also announced at max that they were "doubling down" on Flash as a gaming platform, but I think that's really just a last ditch

Re: Flash is Dead!! Long live HTML5

thank freaking god! On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Vivec wrote: > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/nov/09/adobe-flash-mobile-dead > > Mobile Flash is being killed off. The plugin that launched a thousand > online forum arguments and a technology standoff between > Apple

Flash is Dead!! Long live HTML5

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/nov/09/adobe-flash-mobile-dead Mobile Flash is being killed off. The plugin that launched a thousand online forum arguments and a technology standoff between Apple and the format's creator, Adobe

RE: Penn State

Do you have a link? -Original Message- From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 12:59 PM To: cf-community Subject: Penn State Has anyone else read the grand jury indictment of this Sandusky asshole from Penn State. Read it. It's beyond troubling. Make

RE: ColdPlay

Well...it is Coldplay G... -Original Message- From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 12:25 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: ColdPlay I like that newish song of theirs.but my god, that is the lamest title of a song since.man, maybe since ever.

RE: Porn on planes

O'Leary loves a contentious topic. Charging extra for disabled passengers for example, as well as a string of rude and sometimes downright offensive comments. I'm not sure if it's a deliberate management style, or if he really is as obnoxious as he seems, but I wouldn't take this story too serious