Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Dana
I like the Terry Pratchett theory -- the time-traveller's ham sandwich in some primordial pool. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > then again what is the greater miracle, the guy in the white robe > going all Jehovah on something, or some small tweak to some DNA > happeni

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Gruss Gott
Well, technically, if we follow general relativity then there is no time; all events that did or are going to happen ... have. Thus God is simply a part of all events ever to be in this universe. On Jan 18, 2012, at 3:04 PM, "K-Sea - dvsDJTV.com" wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:29

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Gruss Gott
In northern Iceland there's a penis museum ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_Phallological_Museum ) It's cold AND dark half the year there. On Jan 18, 2012, at 9:21 AM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > This was a local University of Minnesota experiment, BTW. Good thing it > gets so damn c

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
just yours. that's OK you can do the victim routine again. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Sam wrote: > > I get that part but why do we always pretend it's all religion and > then clarify we mocking a handful. > Isn't it tiring to mock the few that might not even really exist? At > least not h

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
then again what is the greater miracle, the guy in the white robe going all Jehovah on something, or some small tweak to some DNA happening hundreds of millions or even billions of years ago that resulted in Christ (assuming he existed at one point). On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:04 PM, K-Sea - dvsDJ

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-18 Thread Sam
Let's hear the other sides point of view: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/288490/obama-s-forced-keystone-decision-rejects-jobs-energy-and-logic-nicolas-loris . On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Now watch the Republicans whine about not making as much money as th

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-18 Thread Sam
I get it, this is when we pretend .01 percent represents the lot. Very funny. . On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > It really went down like conversations I have with my 5 year, with the > GOP playing their usual part as the truculent child. > > Dept. of State: "There are

Re: So, I just got through listening to Romney

2012-01-18 Thread Sam
Hope and changed worked kinda. Why not use it. I mean if the population is stupid give them stupid. . On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 5:28 PM, PT wrote: > > He spoke at the local university. > > His wife started things off by doing the "we are a traditional Christian > family and I stand by my man." th

Re: Fark SOPA

2012-01-18 Thread Dana
That's right. Or you could say "that site infriges on someone else's copyright, and this hurts me in some way." I am having trouble coming up with a scenario for that one, though...maybe if you sell Mickey Mouse ears a Mickey porno spoof would hurt you? But ok, suppose someone says "that's my con

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > God and science have no problem coexisting...it's his damn followers that > are the problem... > It's people ... Tru Dat There is a lot of trippy stuff out there; fractals being one of them. One Love, One

Re: Fark SOPA

2012-01-18 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > I've seen this too and I think the approach is slightly off. Most postings > I've seen about this image point out that he's a copyright violator - > character assassination. The real point here to me is how far reaching the > law reall

Re: Fark SOPA

2012-01-18 Thread Cameron Childress
I've seen this too and I think the approach is slightly off. Most postings I've seen about this image point out that he's a copyright violator - character assassination. The real point here to me is how far reaching the law really is and that his site could be shut down even if that image WAS NO

Re: Fark SOPA

2012-01-18 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Priceless and an indication of how clueless people can be. I actually joined the black out with my podcast site. The legislation as written is atrocious. Hatton On Jan 18, 2012 6:50 PM, "Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions" < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at

RE: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Eric Roberts
God and science have no problem coexisting...it's his damn followers that are the problem... -Original Message- From: K-Sea - dvsDJTV.com [mailto:k-...@dvsdjtv.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:05 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab

RE: So, I just got through listening to Romney

2012-01-18 Thread Eric Roberts
I am sorry... -Original Message- From: PT [mailto:cft...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:29 PM To: cf-community Subject: So, I just got through listening to Romney He spoke at the local university. His wife started things off by doing the "we are a traditional Christian

Re: Fark SOPA

2012-01-18 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
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Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Sam
What's her hurry? Now that we've evolved we're cooking the planet. It was better when we dragged knuckles. . On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:04 PM, K-Sea - dvsDJTV.com wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Sam wrote: > >> Since God and evolution can co-exist as discussed here many times this

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Sam
I get that part but why do we always pretend it's all religion and then clarify we mocking a handful. Isn't it tiring to mock the few that might not even really exist? At least not here anyway. . On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:35 PM, GMoney wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Sam wrote: >

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread K-Sea - dvsDJTV.com
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Sam wrote: > Since God and evolution can co-exist as discussed here many times this > confuses me. Are you now saying evolution proves there's no God? > I don't see God and Science ever ONLY co-existing. EVERYTHING was created out of Big Bang billions of years

Re: So, I just got through listening to Romney

2012-01-18 Thread PT
Maybe that's part of the plan. > Sorry, he's been busy building multicellular yeast lately. > > -Cameron ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffus

Re: So, I just got through listening to Romney

2012-01-18 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 5:28 PM, PT wrote: > His only "promise" is that he is going to make this century an American > century and take America back to the things that made it great, though > he didn't say how. Oh, he also promised to fix the economy, again, > without specifying how. Maybe God

Re: So, I just got through listening to Romney

2012-01-18 Thread Dana
this is both one of the funniest and the saddest rants I've seen. Kudos. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:28 PM, PT wrote: > > He spoke at the local university. > > His wife started things off by doing the "we are a traditional Christian > family and I stand by my man." thing. She wanted us to know t

So, I just got through listening to Romney

2012-01-18 Thread PT
He spoke at the local university. His wife started things off by doing the "we are a traditional Christian family and I stand by my man." thing. She wanted us to know that Romney is a family man and holds family values above all else. Then it was Romney's turn. He talked for 15 minutes. In

Re: anyone here have a Playbook?

2012-01-18 Thread Medic
I agree from a technology standpoint, however because they are Canadian my nationalistic pride wants to see them rise from the ashes. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > lol, i know :) > > i just hate to see companies waste so much money on pointless products. > they have los

Re: anyone here have a Playbook?

2012-01-18 Thread Ras Tafari
lol, i know :) i just hate to see companies waste so much money on pointless products. they have lost the battle, they should just close up shop. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Dana wrote: > > tsk. I am not saying anyone *should* have a Playbook, Tony. I thought maybe > someone here *could* h

Re: anyone here have a Playbook?

2012-01-18 Thread Dana
tsk. I am not saying anyone *should* have a Playbook, Tony. I thought maybe someone here *could* have one; in some MAX sessions they were giving them away. If so, the security issue might matter to them if they were using it. That is all. As for RIM, I agree. They held a developers' event out her

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Judah McAuley
I've run into a lot of scientists at sex parties but, like any good scientist, I recognize that as selection bias. Cheers, Judah On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > hang out at any of the bars in Bethesda near NIH. Gives you a good > idea as to wehre they come from. > > O

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
hang out at any of the bars in Bethesda near NIH. Gives you a good idea as to wehre they come from. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Test tubes heheheh > > -Original Message- > From: Ray Champagne [mailto:r...@raychampagne.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012

RE: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Eric Roberts
Test tubes heheheh -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:r...@raychampagne.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:11 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months Immaculate conception? On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Larr

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Ray Champagne
Immaculate conception? On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Well where do you think young scientists come from? > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Eric Roberts > wrote: > > > > There are scientists we are talking about...you know the folks (to > > generalize) who are not

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread GMoney
God! And we've come full circle :) On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Well where do you think young scientists come from? > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Eric Roberts > wrote: > > > > There are scientists we are talking about...you know the folks (to > > generalize

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Well where do you think young scientists come from? On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > There are scientists we are talking about...you know the folks (to > generalize) who are notorious for NOT having girlfriends... ROFL... > > -Original Message- > From: Jerry Milo

RE: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Eric Roberts
There are scientists we are talking about...you know the folks (to generalize) who are notorious for NOT having girlfriends... ROFL... -Original Message- From: Jerry Milo Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 12:06 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Researcher

RE: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Eric Roberts
This is Sam you are talking to...type slowly ;-) -Original Message- From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:35 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Sam w

FW NCSE getting into teaching global warming.

2012-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Finally. http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2012/01/science-education-group-decides-its-time-to-tackle-climate-change.ars -- Larry C. Lyons web: http://www.lyonsmorris.com/lyons LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/larryclyons There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there alway

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
yes but that is a child. We talking adult republican politicians here who have no restraints whatsoever. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > It really went down like conversations I have with my 5 year, with the > GOP playing their usual part as the truculent child. > > Dep

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-18 Thread Judah McAuley
It really went down like conversations I have with my 5 year, with the GOP playing their usual part as the truculent child. Dept. of State: "There are a couple options here that we need time to look at. I'm not sure that the one you are currently proposing is a good idea." Congressional GOP: "NO

Re: Fark SOPA

2012-01-18 Thread William Bowen
Hewn from the finest WIN! On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > I think theoatmeal did it best. > > http://theoatmeal.com/ > > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:17 PM, GMoney wrote: > >> >> Fark.com protests SOPA as only they can...by going WHITE to "support" it. >> The vide

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
no I'm pointing out some of the more egregious ones. Thing is that the corruption involving keystone is blatant. The speaker stands to make hundreds of thousands based solely on his position. Other republican house members also stand to make a lot. And I have not mentioned the political contributi

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-18 Thread GMoney
oh, ok.that's kinda like pointing out the blue sky and the green grass. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I'm entirely neutral. I was just pointing out the corruption involved > on the Republican side. > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:37 PM, GMoney wrote: > > > > Are

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
let them explain ... Apples... On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:42 PM, GMoney wrote: > > You mean you need proof beyond the existence of bananas > > Man...some people can never be satisfied. > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > >> >> First assumption is that there is a god

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'm entirely neutral. I was just pointing out the corruption involved on the Republican side. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:37 PM, GMoney wrote: > > Aren't you in favor of this pipeline Is attacking "them" so engrained > in your marrow that you can't help it, even when you agree with "them"? >

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Um, you are doing it wrong? ("it" being winter and being inside) There are other things to do besides science. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > This was a local University of Minnesota experiment, BTW. Good thing it > gets so damn cold here, drives people inside and

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread GMoney
You mean you need proof beyond the existence of bananas Man...some people can never be satisfied. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > First assumption is that there is a god. I'm still waiting for > verifiable evidence that doesn't use a religious document or a > col

Re: Fark SOPA

2012-01-18 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
I think theoatmeal did it best. http://theoatmeal.com/ On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:17 PM, GMoney wrote: > > Fark.com protests SOPA as only they can...by going WHITE to "support" it. > The video on the front page explaining why you should support SOPA is > amusing. > > www.fark.com > > ~~

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
First assumption is that there is a god. I'm still waiting for verifiable evidence that doesn't use a religious document or a collection of 8th century BCE tribal myths. Second this is Sam. What else do you expect his misunderstanding even the most simple of statements as it passes through his ide

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-18 Thread GMoney
Aren't you in favor of this pipeline Is attacking "them" so engrained in your marrow that you can't help it, even when you agree with "them"? On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Now watch the Republicans whine about not making as much money as they > were slated to do

FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Now watch the Republicans whine about not making as much money as they were slated to do. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71598.html Obama administration to reject Keystone XL By: Darren Goode January 18, 2012 11:51 AM EST The State Department Wednesday will reject the Keystone XL pip

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread GMoney
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Sam wrote: > > Since God and evolution can co-exist as discussed here many times this > confuses me. Are you now saying evolution proves there's no God? > We're making fun of the argument used by some religious fundamentalists that God has planted evidence of e

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Sam
Since God and evolution can co-exist as discussed here many times this confuses me. Are you now saying evolution proves there's no God? . On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:18 PM, GMoney wrote: > > God wins. My faith is shaken. Long live Science! > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Judah McAuley wrot

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Ray Champagne
This was a local University of Minnesota experiment, BTW. Good thing it gets so damn cold here, drives people inside and all they can do is science. :) On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM, GMoney wrote: > > God wins. My faith is shaken. Long live Science! > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Ju

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread GMoney
God wins. My faith is shaken. Long live Science! On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > That's just God trying to test your faith. Duh. > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Larry C. Lyons > wrote: > > > > In this case multiple generations in the lab, following classic > > ev

Fark SOPA

2012-01-18 Thread GMoney
Fark.com protests SOPA as only they can...by going WHITE to "support" it. The video on the front page explaining why you should support SOPA is amusing. www.fark.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazo

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Judah McAuley
That's just God trying to test your faith. Duh. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > In this case multiple generations in the lab, following classic > evolutionary theory. > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion A

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
In this case multiple generations in the lab, following classic evolutionary theory. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:57 AM, GMoney wrote: > > Please...that's the "beauty" of intelligent designEVERYTHING can be > explained by the same simple reason: God did it. > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 7:35 AM,

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread GMoney
Please...that's the "beauty" of intelligent designEVERYTHING can be explained by the same simple reason: God did it. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I'd love to hear what the IDiots at the Discovery Institute have to > say about that. > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'd love to hear what the IDiots at the Discovery Institute have to say about that. On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > This is a really cool research project. Scientists started out with > single celled yeast and decided to look into whether selective > pressure could evol

FW: Republican Congressional Committee Chair in Loan Issue

2012-01-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
The corruption just keeps on coming. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71569.html Sessions got Countrywide VIP loan By: John Bresnahan January 17, 2012 07:25 PM EST Texas Rep. Pete Sessions, a top member of the House GOP leadership, received a VIP mortgage from defunct lender Countrywi