Re: Rand Paul filibustering Brennan nomination for CIA

You keep saying "Pass a law or let the current law keep going" but I do not think that means what you think it means. One of the fundamental problems is that the Obama administration (and previously the Bush administration) sets up their own interpretations of laws passed by Congress (and the Con

Re: Rand Paul filibustering Brennan nomination for CIA

it's true that it's been going on for a while. But the more we learn about the practice the less it seems like a good idea. These are not the highly targeted surgical strikes of a few individuals that they were initially said to be. So we have gone from willingness to get our hands dirty when real

Re: Rand Paul filibustering Brennan nomination for CIA

You could look at it this way, 20 people with a gps guided bomb or drone vs 300 or so if hit by conventional weapons. That is if you want to use such a calculation. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I would disagree Dana. If we can send in a drone to do a job rather than >

Re: Rand Paul filibustering Brennan nomination for CIA

it's a slippery slope though. My first reaction was well to your post was well ok, maybe I mean civilians. But there are no civilians in the current wars, as we have all been told. And we seem to kill a lot of "insurgents" who are six or seven years old. But my issue is the disparity in power and

Re: Rand Paul filibustering Brennan nomination for CIA

"I think my whole issue is that this has been going on for years and it's just now that they care about this... why the big hupla now?" Were the Pakistani's killed in the drone attack dual US citizens? Rand Paul is not filibustering over the use of drones on foreign nationals. He is filibusteri

Re: Rand Paul filibustering Brennan nomination for CIA

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Dana wrote: > There is something viscerally wrong with sending a drone after someone. > Anywhere, in my opinion. However, if the administration's positon is that > this is just fine even in the United States where most people say the > Constitution precludes this,

RE: Rand Paul filibustering Brennan nomination for CIA

I would disagree Dana. If we can send in a drone to do a job rather than putting our troops in harm's way, I am all for it. I just would like to see more measures to prevent collateral damage. Killing innocent people is never the answer. -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier.

RE: Glenn Beck Is Under Attack From the Forces of Darkness

Hat train left the station a very long time ago Larry;-) -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:01 PM To: cf-community Subject: Glenn Beck Is Under Attack From the Forces of Darkness I think Beck has really lost it here.

Re: Rand Paul filibustering Brennan nomination for CIA

There is something viscerally wrong with sending a drone after someone. Anywhere, in my opinion. However, if the administration's positon is that this is just fine even in the United States where most people say the Constitution precludes this, then I am even more agaist this notion of theirs. It

Re: Rand Paul filibustering Brennan nomination for CIA

"Fix your own laws Mr Paul..." Was Paul in office in 2001? "The president could just revoke the citizenship of someone before killing them as well." Does that make it right? J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are peo

Re: Rand Paul filibustering Brennan nomination for CIA

"Why doesn't the GOP just say no one can do anything until we are in power." Huh? J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel, go out and buy some more tunnel. - John

Re: Rand Paul filibustering Brennan nomination for CIA

As far as we know, the President did not revoke anyone's citizenship before drone attacks, so there is that. Furthermore, Holder wouldn't even explicitly rule out drone attacks in the US, even in cases that didn't rise to the level of imminent threat. I agree that the Patriot Act and use of forc

IRaq cost 800 billion

Close to the "almost a trillion dollars" that is often bandied about. This is an incredible figure, but it was over a period of years. http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/03/06/173656559/u-s-spent-too-much-in-iraq-got-little-in-return-watchdog-report-says?ft=1&f=1001&sc=tw

Glenn Beck Is Under Attack From the Forces of Darkness

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video on income inequality.

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Re: Rand Paul filibustering Brennan nomination for CIA

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > I like that it is a talking filibuster, not the crappy silent filibuster > that Republicans have been using to obstruct every single thing that the > Senate does. I think that Paul is making some good points and I'm glad to > see that one of

Re: Rand Paul filibustering Brennan nomination for CIA

It could be simply a cold political calculation. If they said that it would cost them at least the next couple of elections. It also telegraphs their entire strategy to the Democratic party. That said its a pretty dumb policy, it seems to me that they're really only getting a very short term adva

Re: Rand Paul filibustering Brennan nomination for CIA

Why doesn't the GOP just say no one can do anything until we are in power. Because that's the awful game they have been playing for years now. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-

Re: Rand Paul filibustering Brennan nomination for CIA

I like that it is a talking filibuster, not the crappy silent filibuster that Republicans have been using to obstruct every single thing that the Senate does. I think that Paul is making some good points and I'm glad to see that one of my Senators, Ron Wyden (a Democrat mind you) is joining him in

Rand Paul filibustering Brennan nomination for CIA

Rand Paul is attempting to filibuster the nomination of Brennan for CIA Chief Mr. Paul , Kentucky Republican, has said he will hold up the nomination until he gets more information about the U.S. drone execution program, which has become a major

Re: The UN Says Colorado and Washington Pot Legalization Violates Drug Treaties

"How come the UN didn't preach this to England, Denmark, or Portugal..or several other regions." I'd guess money. "The billions from the war on drugs, legal and illegal must be allowed to flow. The will of the people be damned." Unfortunately, this is the truth. Apparently there are some in t

Re: The UN Says Colorado and Washington Pot Legalization Violates Drug Treaties

How come the UN didn't preach this to England, Denmark, or Portugal..or several other regions. The US instructing the UN on what to find, to bolster their case to strike down state laws for legalisation. The billions from the war on drugs, legal and illegal must be allowed to flow. The will of t

The UN Says Colorado and Washington Pot Legalization Violates Drug Treaties

UN: Colo., Wash. legal pot violates drug treaties ( http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2020487915_apcolegalizingmarijuanaun2ndldwritethru.html) A United Nations-based drug agency urged the United States government on Tuesday to challenge the legalization of marijuana for recreational use in C

Re: DOW hits new high today...

"Are those numbers adjusted for today's dollars?" I doubt it. The chart did not say inflation adjusted. Of course, what does "inflation adjusted" mean? The books are cooked on inflation numbers just like they are on unemployment. >From what I can find, an approximation of the official infla