Re: New bullet design. Constantly innovating death.

2014-01-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I still prefer the FN FAL Big accurate and can punch a hole in most things. The real drawback is that on auto it can be difficult to control. However Imbel seems to have solved that one. On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Timothy Heald wrote: > > 7.62 is still in wide use, machine guns, sniper r

Is Sprint Dying?

2014-01-13 Thread Bruce Sorge
So this recent article (http://tinyurl.com/jvrx67q) got me to thinking about how well Sprint is going to do in the future. I am currently a Sprint customer and I am very unhappy with them, simply because their service on Fort Benning (where I live, work and play) is shitty, and Sprint recognizes t

Re: New bullet design. Constantly innovating death.

2014-01-13 Thread Paul Ihrig
ishma = saiga ak varient On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:03 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Is Ishmal the long one for the SVD or a funky name for .x .39? > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Paul Ihrig wrote: > >> >> love 7.62 Ishma! >> >> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Larry C. Lyons >> wrote: >> >

Re: New bullet design. Constantly innovating death.

2014-01-13 Thread LRS Scout
Is Ishmal the long one for the SVD or a funky name for .x .39? On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Paul Ihrig wrote: > > love 7.62 Ishma! > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Larry C. Lyons > wrote: > > > > hey I wrote it off the top of my head. I still prefer 7.62 round but that > > really da

Re: embarrassed to be read

2014-01-13 Thread LRS Scout
My friend thinks I'm crazy Haha On Jan 12, 2014 1:02 AM, "Michael Dinowitz" wrote: > > I was getting off the train when I noticed a button on a young woman's > coat. I asked to read it and it said > "Sh!t's about to get real" > I smiled, thanked her, and walked away. I hear her tell her compani

Re: New bullet design. Constantly innovating death.

2014-01-13 Thread Timothy Heald
7.62 is still in wide use, machine guns, sniper rifles, designated marksmen. There's a whole class of M-16 variants built on 7.62, and some M-14s and lots of Remington 700s. That's without going into the 240b and the SF Gatling gun, that shit is sick right there. On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:00

Re: New bullet design. Constantly innovating death.

2014-01-13 Thread Paul Ihrig
love 7.62 Ishma! On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > hey I wrote it off the top of my head. I still prefer 7.62 round but that > really dates me. > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:43 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > >> >> 5.56? >> On Jan 13, 2014 11:19 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote:

Re: New bullet design. Constantly innovating death.

2014-01-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
hey I wrote it off the top of my head. I still prefer 7.62 round but that really dates me. On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:43 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > 5.56? > On Jan 13, 2014 11:19 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > > > > > In the 90's the Swedes though that the 5.52 NATO round was too inhumane, > > w

Re: New bullet design. Constantly innovating death.

2014-01-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
well you also have to admit there is such a thing called the Geneva Conventions. On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > And the only reason that I can see that we won't be authorized to use these > rounds is because of the philosophy that we want to injure an enemy > combatan

Re: New bullet design. Constantly innovating death.

2014-01-13 Thread LRS Scout
5.56? On Jan 13, 2014 11:19 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > > In the 90's the Swedes though that the 5.52 NATO round was too inhumane, > with its shattering on bone impact. So they redesigned the round to be more > humane. Only thing was in tests it turned out to be much more nastier, > tumbling

Re: New bullet design. Constantly innovating death.

2014-01-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
In the 90's the Swedes though that the 5.52 NATO round was too inhumane, with its shattering on bone impact. So they redesigned the round to be more humane. Only thing was in tests it turned out to be much more nastier, tumbling on impact and causing about 3 or 4 times the damage as the standard

Re: New bullet design. Constantly innovating death.

2014-01-13 Thread LRS Scout
We can't use hollow points, frangible rounds, or flachettes. Rules of land warfare or the geneva convention. Since it breaks up I'd imagine these will be off limits as well. On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > And the only reason that I can see that we won't be authorize

Re: New bullet design. Constantly innovating death.

2014-01-13 Thread Bruce Sorge
And the only reason that I can see that we won't be authorized to use these rounds is because of the philosophy that we want to injure an enemy combatant so that we can essentially take out two or three at the same time (the injured combatant and then the one or two it takes to carry him away). To

Re: New bullet design. Constantly innovating death.

2014-01-13 Thread Timothy Heald
Different not correct. On 1/12/14, LRS Scout wrote: > > Soldiers aren't permitted to use these kinds of ammunition. To be honest > the more extreme rounds are in reality more merciful. The jacketed rounds > we use often just poke holes in people. Death can take a long time and > often be from

Re: New bullet design. Constantly innovating death.

2014-01-13 Thread LRS Scout
Soldiers aren't permitted to use these kinds of ammunition. To be honest the more extreme rounds are in reality more merciful. The jacketed rounds we use often just poke holes in people. Death can take a long time and often be from secondary causes like infection. If the idea is the death of t

Re: New bullet design. Constantly innovating death.

2014-01-13 Thread Bruce Sorge
So what's your answer to this? Other than not ever having another war. A Realistic answer. What do you propose to do in order for the allies have an advantage over their enemies? I think this is pretty cool really. Sent from my iPhone 4S. > On Jan 7, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Vivec wrote: > > > h