"Like I said before, if there was a promising solution investor would want some
of the action."
For the record, if there's a promising solution then it's really just growth
investing rather speculative investing. And that said there is hundreds of
billions of speculative investor $$ in clean
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 6:26 PM, William Bowen wrote:
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>> My solution is you shouldn't drink from the well that I sit on.
>
> How about you stop "sitting" in our drinking water? Or should you (and
> by extension corporations) just be allowed to "sit" wherever you want?
Again, if you're going to
> My solution is you shouldn't drink from the well that I sit on.
How about you stop "sitting" in our drinking water? Or should you (and
by extension corporations) just be allowed to "sit" wherever you want?
> So is it all or nothing? We stop using fossil fuel to save the planet
> or do we make
My solution is you shouldn't drink from the well that I sit on.
So is it all or nothing? We stop using fossil fuel to save the planet
or do we make it more effective? Who's to say we're not doing the
earth a favor by ridding it of this possible cancer? So many ways to
look at it.
.
On Wed, Dec
Making it cleaner doesn't mean making it clean. If you have a water bowl
with ten turds in it, removing one will make it cleaner. It's still a far
cry from drinking water though.
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Sam wrote:
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> Most of the US electricity comes from coal. Don't you think making
I doubt Google servers produce *that* much heat. Then again ...
If you tap too much
> geothermal energy would that cool the earth faster?
I don't know. Would it? Worth looking into. I foresee a similar
debate on that topic as to what we are seeing about global warming.
> I see they're t
And whoever harness that energy will make a fortune which means if
there were great potentials companies would invest. You can't always
force breakthroughs, sometimes it just takes time. There's also the
impact of alternatives, like Google proposing to use the oceans to
cool it's servers would the
Most of the US electricity comes from coal. Don't you think making it
cleaner is better than rolling blackouts?
.
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Medic wrote:
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> Cleaner coal plants and factories. Kind of like farting through a
> Kleenex... it still stinks.
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:12 AM,
On 12/7/2011 9:12 AM, Sam wrote:
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> Well, we've been making cleaner factories for years and they're
> getting better as we go. Coal is also used in a much cleaner way.
> Solar and wind are huge wastes that only help friends of Dems. One
> day, when done right, they might be worthwhile.
I won't
Cleaner coal plants and factories. Kind of like farting through a
Kleenex... it still stinks.
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Sam wrote:
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> Well, we've been making cleaner factories for years and they're
> getting better as we go. Coal is also used in a much cleaner way.
> Solar and wind are h
Hide the decline baby!
Actually I do know a thing or two about this. You on the other hand
seem to be getting your scientific knowledge from mediamatters.
.
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> If you knew what you were writing about. Pardon that if you had a scintilla
> o
Well, we've been making cleaner factories for years and they're
getting better as we go. Coal is also used in a much cleaner way.
Solar and wind are huge wastes that only help friends of Dems. One
day, when done right, they might be worthwhile. The rush in is to
close factories in the US and move
Pigs are pretty smart. I bet you could teach them basic algebra. The
hard part would be motivating them to care about it and finding the
tools for them to express themselves.
Actually, that sounds just like teaching kids algebra now that I think about it.
Judah
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:27 PM, L
If you knew what you were writing about. Pardon that if you had a scintilla
of an inkling of what is involved, then I'd give your post th response it
would deserve. But as you have demonstrated multiple times, discussing the
issue with you is like explaining algebra to a pig, it does no good and
o
You assume that doing it right necessarily follows proper analysis and
that proper analysis precludes rushing in.
It is most likely that rushing in will happen whether or not proper
analysis is done and doing it right won't be an initial option because
of time wasted bickering over proper anal
The data doesn't support anything. That's why it's bogus science.
.
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> you hope. the data doesn't support the idea that this is going away
> any time soon. I just hope that when it bites us in the ass AGW
> doesn't destroy us.
>
you hope. the data doesn't support the idea that this is going away
any time soon. I just hope that when it bites us in the ass AGW
doesn't destroy us.
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:48 AM, GMoney wrote:
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> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:39 PM, PT wrote:
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>>
>> History says that the likelihood of us not
You can rush in new laws that you have to read to know what's in them
or do a proper analysis first and do it right. Imagine that.
.
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:39 PM, PT wrote:
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> History says that the likelihood of us not really doing anything about
> it until it starts biting us in the ass is
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:39 PM, PT wrote:
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> History says that the likelihood of us not really doing anything about
> it until it starts biting us in the ass is almost a certainty.
>
Not really. History suggests we'll soon forget about it and move on to our
next crisis of the decadeand the
Metaphorically speaking, of course. The little things in life are precious.
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
> Science will find the truth eventually. Meanwhile, I see the truth in
> everyday life, everywhere I look. It's all around us, everywhere. The love
> of my wife and ch
History says that the likelihood of us not really doing anything about
it until it starts biting us in the ass is almost a certainty.
-
"Because I can lie beautiful true things into existence ..."
Neil Gaiman on Why I write.
On 12/5/2011 5:16 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
> We need to learn a w
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
> Science will find the truth eventually. Meanwhile, I see the truth in
> everyday life, everywhere I look. It's all around us, everywhere. The love
> of my wife and children, the passing of the seasons, the comings and going
> of the world.
>
Science will find the truth eventually. Meanwhile, I see the truth in
everyday life, everywhere I look. It's all around us, everywhere. The love
of my wife and children, the passing of the seasons, the comings and going
of the world.
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Sam wrote:
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> I have real
I have real issues with this so-called science:
http://di2.nu/foia/foia2011/mail/4195.txt
>-Original Message->From: Phil Jones [mailto:p.jo...@uea.ac.uk]>Sent:
>05 January 2009 16:18>To: Johns, Tim; Folland, Chris>Cc: Smith, Doug; Johns,
>Tim>Subject: Re: FW: Temperatures in 2009>>>
I think we have established that it is causes, plural, and we have a
pretty decent understanding of what they are but the way in which they
combine and the way that variation of certain inputs (man-made
expulsion of CO2 as an example) change local, short term variables and
long-term global variabl
People should keep searching for the root cause.
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Sam wrote:
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> Et tu brutus?
>
> .
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Larry C. Lyons >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/b
It's going to be rough. Not only is the task really big, it is also
complicated in ways we are still trying to figure out. That's part of
the frustration I have with climate change deniers. They see real
issues with climate science (most science, really) because we have
conflicting studies, gradua
Et tu brutus?
.
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
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> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/how-ignorance-greed-and-ideology-are-warping-science-and-hurting-democracy-2015#ixzz1fgCiFxdc
>
it depends on how bad-ass you want to get. How about a giant shade
that cuts off 10% of the available sunlight. Thing is the more we do
now the less expensive it is later.
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
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> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> http
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
>
> http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/how-ignorance-greed-and-ideology-are-warping-science-and-hurting-democracy-2015#ixzz1fgCiFxdc
>
>
Turns out you were right about man-made climate change. Geo-engineering
pro
ing Science and Hurting Democracy
>>
>> RS Politics Daily
>>
>> by: Julian Brookes
>>
>>
>> 'Fool Me Twice: The Assault on Science in America' by Shawn Lawrence Otto
>> Rodale
>> "Whenever the people are well informed" an optimis
logy-are-warping-science-and-hurting-democracy-2015#ixzz1fgCiFxdc
>
> How Ignorance, Greed and Ideology Are Warping Science and Hurting Democracy
>
> RS Politics Daily
>
> by: Julian Brookes
>
>
> 'Fool Me Twice: The Assault on Science in America' by Shawn La
: The Assault on Science in America' by Shawn Lawrence Otto
Rodale
"Whenever the people are well informed" an optimistic Thomas Jefferson
wrote, "they can be trusted with their own government." Sure but
what if the people have no clue?
Most of the big challenges faci
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