RE: simply amazing

2014-04-01 Thread LRS Scout
Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 11:01 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: simply amazing > > > Damn > > And the world sinks lower still > On Apr 1, 2014 11:36 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > > > > > you may want to chec

RE: simply amazing

2014-04-01 Thread Eric Roberts
imply amazing Damn And the world sinks lower still On Apr 1, 2014 11:36 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > > you may want to check the other dates in the article. this is legit. > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:30 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > > > What's today Larry?

Re: simply amazing

2014-04-01 Thread Larry C. Lyons
If the Saudis consider atheists to be terrorists, does that mean they will start funding the American Humanist Society and similar groups? On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/03/20/saudi-arabia-new-terrorism-regulations-assault-rights > > >

Re: simply amazing

2014-04-01 Thread LRS Scout
Damn And the world sinks lower still On Apr 1, 2014 11:36 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > > you may want to check the other dates in the article. this is legit. > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:30 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > > > What's today Larry? > > On Apr 1, 2014 11:08 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote:

Re: simply amazing

2014-04-01 Thread Larry C. Lyons
you may want to check the other dates in the article. this is legit. On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:30 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > What's today Larry? > On Apr 1, 2014 11:08 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > >> >> Saudi Arabia declares atheists terrorists under new laws targeting >> citizens who 'call for

Re: simply amazing

2014-04-01 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/03/20/saudi-arabia-new-terrorism-regulations-assault-rights On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:30 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > What's today Larry? > On Apr 1, 2014 11:08 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > >> >> Saudi Arabia declares atheists terrorists under new laws targeting >> ci

Re: simply amazing

2014-04-01 Thread LRS Scout
What's today Larry? On Apr 1, 2014 11:08 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > > Saudi Arabia declares atheists terrorists under new laws targeting > citizens who 'call for secular thought in any form' > > > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2594139/Saudi-Arabia-declares-atheists-terrorists-new

simply amazing

2014-04-01 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Saudi Arabia declares atheists terrorists under new laws targeting citizens who 'call for secular thought in any form' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2594139/Saudi-Arabia-declares-atheists-terrorists-new-laws.html and here I thought it was a joke I guess I'll start expecting the N

Re: Amazing

2013-01-31 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > Guy gets fired from his day job because he invented a game. > He got fired for being critical of the customer. Not that I agree, but it's not because he invented a game. -Cameron ...

Amazing

2013-01-31 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Guy gets fired from his day job because he invented a game. http://kotaku.com/i-get-this-call-every-day ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusi

Simply Amazing - in an absolutely great way

2013-01-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Johns Hopkins Hospital performs double arm transplant on Army soldier - The Washington Post http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/johns-hopkins-hospital-performs-double-arm-transplant-on-army-soldier/2013/01/28/d4b8e082-673c-11e2-93e1-475791032daf_story.html ~~~

Re: Humans are amazing: soccer ball control skillz

2012-11-27 Thread GMoney
Looks like funhey, is that what Freddy Adu is up to these days :) On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2shpVmA3k0c > > This guy is phenomenal. > > > ~~~

Humans are amazing: soccer ball control skillz

2012-11-27 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2shpVmA3k0c This guy is phenomenal. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive:

Re: Paper Art - amazing

2012-01-06 Thread Cameron Childress
Very cool. If you're into this sort of stuff, follow Strictly Paper on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Strictlypaper/108258022566499 -Cameron On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > Two amazing artists who sculpt in paper. > > > http://ww

Re: Paper Art - amazing

2012-01-06 Thread Scott Stroz
I so want to see the second guy cave Hogwarts out of the Harry Potter books. On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > Two amazing artists who sculpt in paper. > > http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1mTTq2/www.pondly.com/2011/10/amazing-paper-sculpture-by-cal

Re: Paper Art - amazing

2012-01-06 Thread Vivec
Cools ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:345172 Subscri

Paper Art - amazing

2012-01-04 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Two amazing artists who sculpt in paper. http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1mTTq2/www.pondly.com/2011/10/amazing-paper-sculpture-by-calvin-nicholls/ http://twistedsifter.com/2012/01/landscapes-carved-into-books-guy-laramee/ Those were fun to see

Amazing half line goal in inter vs Schalke match

2011-04-06 Thread Vivec
Stankovic's amazing goal from Midfield in the Inter vs Schalke match :) Poor keeper! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4WLTCS8cyc&feature=player_embedded ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.

Re: Amazing Science Fair Projects

2009-11-10 Thread Michael Grant
Looks like lots of photoshop. On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/35-amazing-science-fair-projects > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something th

Amazing Science Fair Projects

2009-11-09 Thread Gruss Gott
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/35-amazing-science-fair-projects ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com

Re: This is amazing.

2009-10-21 Thread Rick Root
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > +100, but seriously, the mom's name is Aquanetta? Apparently, one of my co-workers went to school with a woman named Aquanetta. Rick ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion

Re: This is amazing.

2009-10-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
+100, but seriously, the mom's name is Aquanetta? On Oct 21, 2009, at 8:05 AM, Rick Root wrote: > > wow > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Michael Grant > wrote: >> >> Totally SFW and totally amazing. >> >> http://www.cbsnews.com/video/wa

Re: This is amazing.

2009-10-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
sorry, can't watch it --- that's one of those left wing media outlets ;) On Oct 21, 2009, at 7:44 AM, Michael Grant wrote: > > Totally SFW and totally amazing. > > http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=1817451n&

Re: This is amazing.

2009-10-21 Thread Rick Root
wow On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Michael Grant wrote: > > Totally SFW and totally amazing. > > http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=1817451n&tag=related;photovideo > ~| Want to reach the ColdFu

This is amazing.

2009-10-21 Thread Michael Grant
Totally SFW and totally amazing. http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=1817451n&tag=related;photovideo ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing l

Re: Today's Amazing Youtube ...

2009-10-02 Thread Erika L. Rich
I'm glad gmail has a youtube preview so I didnt have to click on that On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > I am conflicted on that video. I kind of liked it, but feel a little > confused and awkward about that fact. > > They have a lot of videos, though. This one I think

Re: Today's Amazing Youtube ...

2009-10-02 Thread Jerry Johnson
I am conflicted on that video. I kind of liked it, but feel a little confused and awkward about that fact. They have a lot of videos, though. This one I think is my favorite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > A must see for y

Re: Today's Amazing Youtube ...

2009-10-02 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
hmmm.the white man group probably shouldn't try the moonwalking bit. On Oct 2, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > A must see for you music lovers. Need sound. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6EYrqIn0yI > > >

Today's Amazing Youtube ...

2009-10-02 Thread Erika L. Rich
A must see for you music lovers. Need sound. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6EYrqIn0yI ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://ww

Re: The amazing Lyre bird

2009-08-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> Vivec wrote: > > I'm shocked..totally at this birds ability to mimic sounds. > Seems like a lot of work just to get some. I wonder if he's got internet access. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they wan

The amazing Lyre bird

2009-08-15 Thread Vivec
I'm shocked..totally at this birds ability to mimic sounds. So many fascinating creatures out there :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjE0Kdfos4Y ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them kn

Re: Amazing knee riding save! Motorcyclist gets back on bike avoiding crash

2009-06-04 Thread Michael Grant
Ya, it's about lived out it's usefulness. But it did exactly what all my jokes are supossed to do... make _me_ laugh. :D On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > Grant wrote: > > > > Sorry, but you just make it too easy. Plus, it's nice to maintain a theme > > across threads.

Re: Amazing knee riding save! Motorcyclist gets back on bike avoiding crash

2009-06-04 Thread Gruss Gott
> Grant wrote: > > Sorry, but you just make it too easy. Plus, it's nice to maintain a theme > across threads. Good for us simpletons and emotes. :p Ah, so true. Well my recommendation is to spread it out a bit. Be a little more sparing. If you use the same joke over and over then it might get

Re: Amazing knee riding save! Motorcyclist gets back on bike avoiding crash

2009-06-04 Thread Michael Grant
Sorry, but you just make it too easy. Plus, it's nice to maintain a theme across threads. Good for us simpletons and emotes. :p I think the main difference is that I actually like you and enjoy giving you the thread based equivalent of a nipple twist. Sam will call homeland security on you. He's h

Re: Amazing knee riding save! Motorcyclist gets back on bike avoiding crash

2009-06-04 Thread Gruss Gott
> Grant wrote: > > Gruss spent the better part of 10 years as a professional motorcycle racer. > I set 'em up, you him 'em! Your consistency is rivaling Sam! ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? L

Re: Amazing knee riding save! Motorcyclist gets back on bike avoiding crash

2009-06-04 Thread Vivec
I was just about to say something like that lol lol ^_^ 2009/6/4 Michael Grant : > > Gruss spent the better part of 10 years as a professional motorcycle racer. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want?

Re: Amazing knee riding save! Motorcyclist gets back on bike avoiding crash

2009-06-04 Thread Michael Grant
Gruss spent the better part of 10 years as a professional motorcycle racer. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > Vivec wrote: > > Wow! That's skill , and a little bit of luck! > > > > Do they not have rush hour in T&T? > > Most of here do that while eating an egg mcmuffin, sh

Re: Amazing knee riding save! Motorcyclist gets back on bike avoiding crash

2009-06-04 Thread Gruss Gott
> Vivec wrote: > Wow! That's skill , and a little bit of luck! > Do they not have rush hour in T&T? Most of here do that while eating an egg mcmuffin, shaving, and leading a conf call. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community

Amazing knee riding save! Motorcyclist gets back on bike avoiding crash

2009-06-04 Thread Vivec
http://www.break.com/index/raffaele-de-rosas-amazing-knee-riding-save.html Wow! That's skill , and a little bit of luck! ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of F

Amazing Excavator!

2009-06-03 Thread Vivec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO-wTO7ice8 Wow! That Operator is a boss, never knew there were 'Extreme' acts for industrial vehicles :-) ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > you really should focus on what you believe instead of trying to > invent things you think i believe. > Well ... okay ... I'll try it ... okay ... focusing ... I believe you believe Bush was great President. Yes. That is what I believe. ~~

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread Robert Munn
you really should focus on what you believe instead of trying to invent things you think i believe. On 3/19/09, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> RoMunn wrote: >> If Obama fails, the global economy is at risk of total implosion. A few >> true >> believers may forgive him, but he has no track record of succ

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > If Obama fails, the global economy is at risk of total implosion. A few true > believers may forgive him, but he has no track record of success to fall > back on, and most everyone will abandon him. > Well, Bush failed and brought the global economy to the brink of total implosi

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread Robert Munn
If Kryzewski fails, Duke fans are going to be pissed, but they will forgive Coach K. because he has taken them to the promised land in the past. If Obama fails, the global economy is at risk of total implosion. A few true believers may forgive him, but he has no track record of success to fall ba

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread Jerry Johnson
He was just mad Obama didn't pick Duke as the winner. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > RoMunn wrote: > > > > Well, let's see. Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski suggested that Obama should > stop > > worrying about the NCAA brackets and focus on the economy. > > Why's Kryzewski

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > > Well, let's see. Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski suggested that Obama should stop > worrying about the NCAA brackets and focus on the economy. Why's Kryzewski worried about Obama? He should be worrying about the NCAA. ~~

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > Once again, I feel the need to point out that the American voters elected > Bush the second time > >> Your policy choices and your candidate brought not just the USA, but >> the Planet, to the edge of global systemic collapse. >> Yeah, that's why I was blaming Robert: he voted fo

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread Maureen
That means they are quoting one of their icons, either Rush or Hannity. Same thing happened last fall with the Socialism charge. When I heard it from three different rightwingers in the same day, I knew the minions were spreading the poison. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Jerry Johnson wrote:

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread Maureen
Diebold. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Once again, I feel the need to point out that the American voters elected > Bush the second time, some blame must be placed there (oh, and on the > Democrats for thinking Kerry was the best guy) ~~~

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread Robert Munn
Well, let's see. Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski suggested that Obama should stop worrying about the NCAA brackets and focus on the economy. I got that one from Drudge, who picked it up from Fox, but the message itself comes from Krzyzewski, who is certainly capable of thinking on his own. As for Fra

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread Jerry Johnson
I think he needs to do both. He needs to tell congress to do their job, and shut the f up on the grandstanding. But people have tried that for 200 years, with no luck so far. Grandstanding is the one skill all of our elected officials share. He needs to get the various agencies that need to deal

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread Jerry Johnson
Yep, that gets you a free pass. Get some sleep, and hope the kids feel better. (Nothing worse than batteries that are down, and kids who need you anyway.) BTW, the only reason I yell is because I love. I couldn't challenge those people yesterday, but you are "family", and I respect your opinion,

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread Gruss Gott
> JJ wrote: > (What happened to the ability of people to write in English)? > Somewhere, somehow, it got loosed. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Do you really, truly believe that Obama is abdicating his responsibility in > trying to address the AIG issue and the other financial problems by going on > a national talk show? After listening/reading some of what he said (haven't had time for everything) I think he's addressing the wrong cro

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread Scott Stroz
Once again, I feel the need to point out that the American voters elected Bush the second time, some blame must be placed there (oh, and on the Democrats for thinking Kerry was the best guy) On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Your policy choices and your candidate brought no

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread Jerry Johnson
Do you really, truly believe that Obama is abdicating his responsibility in trying to address the AIG issue and the other financial problems by going on a national talk show? If so, I think you misjudge him (and misjudge ANYONE in that job position). I think you are letting personal dislike colo

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Dude...you can't finish a well structured, lucent set of points by flubbing > "loose" vs. "lose" I'm tired, I was up all night with two sick kids, leamme 'lone. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dram

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread Gruss Gott
> cHat wrote: > I'll have to wait to catch the clips on Youtube or somewhere else to > see what his tone was If you're curious what the President has to say from yesterday a great source would be his 1+ hour town hall from California where he addressed all of the issues you mention in a speech an

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread G Money
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:23 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > > slowly but consistently loosing public support. Dude...you can't finish a well structured, lucent set of points by flubbing "loose" vs. "lose" Come on! -- They got a name for the winners in the world I want a name when I lose

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
>> We have a President that would rather talk to Jay Leno on the Tonight >> Show rather than look like he's involved in fixing any mess. > > Do you really believe this, or are you just saying it as troll bait, or are > you really this much of an asshole? > > (Really want to know) Tell me why maki

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread Gruss Gott
> JJ wrote: > I heard this EXACT SAME sentence from 5 people last night. > Well that's why I'm trying to get Robert to fess up where he's getting his talking points because all these people are getting them from some single source ... and I think I know the source: Frank Lutz is a big 'conservat

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread Jerry Johnson
That is why I flipped on this. I heard this EXACT SAME sentence from 5 people last night. And I asked them if they really meant it, and why. And none could back it up. And that kind of "repeat stuff you haven't thought through" is probably the thing that makes me most angry with my fellow human

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread Gruss Gott
> JJ wrote: > > I think this is just about the most stupid thing I have every read on > cf-community > You gotta understand, though, Jerry; there's this whole weirdo talk-radio pseudo-world that exists that is many people's only connection to reality. It's as if the World in The Watchman were on

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread Jerry Johnson
I think this is just about the most stupid thing I have every read on cf-community Do you really believe this, or are you just saying it as troll bait, or are you really this much of an asshole? (Really want to know) On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:53 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > We have a Presi

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread G Money
submerged in the seedy underbelly of March Madness.brackets and beers and bets and bedlam.it's my favorite weekend of the year. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Erika L. Walker wrote: > > Where do you think you are disappearing to? you can't leave us like this! > ... > > On Thu, Mar 19,

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread Erika L. Walker
Where do you think you are disappearing to? you can't leave us like this! ... On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:01 AM, G Money wrote: > > Could talk all day about this :) > > Well, actually, half a day, i'm leaving a 11am this morning...and won't be > seen again until sometime on Sunday evening. > >

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-19 Thread G Money
Could talk all day about this :) Well, actually, half a day, i'm leaving a 11am this morning...and won't be seen again until sometime on Sunday evening. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > gMoney wrote: > > > > Haven't watched it, don't really know what's going on... > > I

RE: Signing a contract (was Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing)

2009-03-18 Thread Justin Scott
> All hypothetically speaking, of course! I think you need an attorney versed in hypothetical law to sort through that one. -Justin ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get th

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-18 Thread Gruss Gott
> JJ wrote: > Yep, he's got "some 'splainin to do", as Ricky would say. > For what it's worth: The Treasury Department demanded that Sen. Chris Dodd insert exemptions into the stimulus bill that allowed bailout recipients to receive bonuses, the Connecticut Democrat said on Wednesday. Accor

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-18 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > you know I don't bother to read what you write when you're being rude, > right? > LOL, yeah, good point. Sorry 'bout that. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-18 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Yep, he's got "some 'splainin to do", as Ricky would say. > > So far, it has rung hollow. > > The fact that he was the top money-getter from AIG during his presidential > run doesn't help add believability. Nor does the fact that Obama was #2. > > And the fact that he lied about it on Tuesday, d

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-18 Thread Robert Munn
you know I don't bother to read what you write when you're being rude, right? On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Gruss G wrote: > > > RoMunn wrote: > > HAHAHAHA!! > > > > Reading comprehension Robert. > > I wasn't talking about Obama I was talking about corporate executives > and, specifically, st

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-18 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > HAHAHAHA!! > Reading comprehension Robert. I wasn't talking about Obama I was talking about corporate executives and, specifically, stock options and compensation. And I was suggesting that corporate "performance" be measured over a minimum of 5 years and be tied to balance sh

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-18 Thread Gruss Gott
> JJ wrote: > The fact that he was the top money-getter from AIG during his presidential > run doesn't help add believability. Nor does the fact that Obama was #2. > > And the fact that he lied about it on Tuesday, denying he did it, is really > bad. > Maybe on the surface ... but just playing de

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-18 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Gruss wrote: > Take Robert's ridiculous over-arching criticism of Obama; after 45 > days. That's doltish and a symptom of the culture that's been > created: gimme gimme gimme now noW nOW NOW! > > "Performance" is now measured over the scale of micro-seconds (day

Re: Signing a contract (was Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing)

2009-03-18 Thread Gruss Gott
> cHat wrote: I think by "trustee" you mean the administrator ...? anyway here's my 2 cents based on how you described it, but I'm not a lawyer, don't play one on TV, and you should really talk to one. Also, trusts can be set up with ANY provisions and, even if they're not, there's lots of room

Re: Signing a contract (was Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing)

2009-03-18 Thread Maureen
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:44 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > My questions: > 1. Is the hypothetical trustee in a position to demand such a > hypothetical document be signed? No - not if the documents have not been reviewed. > 2. Is such a document legally binding if the hypothetical trustee > pr

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-18 Thread Jerry Johnson
Yep, he's got "some 'splainin to do", as Ricky would say. So far, it has rung hollow. The fact that he was the top money-getter from AIG during his presidential run doesn't help add believability. Nor does the fact that Obama was #2. And the fact that he lied about it on Tuesday, denying he did

Re: Signing a contract (was Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing)

2009-03-18 Thread Dana
amen On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > I would advise the hypothetical person to contact a hypothetical lawyers > hypothetically first thing in the morning. > > and know that a hypothetical person really, really, really cannot trust the > trustee, and absolutely cannot sh

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-18 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> If Dodd, who I know personally, was in fact the one who literally in the > middle of the night last Sept  removed the "no bonuses" clause that the bill > authors had in the bill, then he needs to be called out on that. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/03/18/breaking-i-was-responsible-f

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-18 Thread Larry Lyons
>If you had a contract with a client that had a performance bonus built >in, and you met the qualifications for the bonus, why would you turn >it down. If I earned a contracted bonus, you can bet I'd take it, and >I wouldn't be giving any of it back. This whole AIG bonus crap is >just a tempest

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-18 Thread Gruss Gott
> JJ wrote: > Unrelieved greed _with_ matching performance is still perfectly fine. > But that's exactly what got us into this mess. Why? Your word "performance". For the last 25 years, executives and wall street have essentially lied about "performance", both in terms of what it is and how it

Re: Signing a contract (was Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing)

2009-03-18 Thread Jerry Johnson
I would advise the hypothetical person to contact a hypothetical lawyers hypothetically first thing in the morning. and know that a hypothetical person really, really, really cannot trust the trustee, and absolutely cannot share a hypothetical lawyer with any other hypothetical beneficiaries (as

Signing a contract (was Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing)

2009-03-18 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> No, if I set up the contract, knowing that the contract was GOING to fail > due specifically to my actions, Going to hijack this comment into a new thread regarding contracts - not the AIG type but other. Anyone in Texas or with knowledge of Tx law would be nice to hear from too - What are the

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-18 Thread Jerry Johnson
And I think this is a great time to say "unrelieved greed without performance is not going to be blindly accepted any more". Unrelieved greed _with_ matching performance is still perfectly fine. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > JJ wrote: > > They failed in their job. T

Re: AIG: Absolutely Amazing

2009-03-18 Thread Gruss Gott
> JJ wrote: > They failed in their job. They failed their company. They should not get any > bonus. > > And no, it isnt a tempest in a teapot. It is a perfect example of the bigger > problem, on an understandable scale. > Well - you know me I'm not partisan at all - but what's happening is we're

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2009-03-18 Thread Jerry Johnson
No, if I set up the contract, knowing that the contract was GOING to fail due specifically to my actions, with a big golden parachute at the end to protect me from the fallout, leaving the contract in the hands of coworkers who were going to have to deal with the failure, I wouldn't take the money

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2009-03-18 Thread Maureen
If you had a contract with a client that had a performance bonus built in, and you met the qualifications for the bonus, why would you turn it down. If I earned a contracted bonus, you can bet I'd take it, and I wouldn't be giving any of it back. This whole AIG bonus crap is just a tempest in a

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2009-03-18 Thread Jerry Johnson
I will admit I liked Obama today looking into the camera while walking to the helicopter, and saying "The buck stops with me. I am the one responsible". Good on him. I will believe him, and hold him to it. It is so nice to have him step up, rather than trying to pin a slippery president down. O

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2009-03-18 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Says the guy who spends most of his days bashing the previous administration > ... > Your policy choices and your candidate brought not just the USA, but the Planet, to the edge of global systemic collapse. And then there's his disastrous foreign policy, his destruction of pers

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2009-03-18 Thread Gruss Gott
> JJ wrote: > And then each of those people need to justify it to me, personally. I have no idea of the details, but I'll just generally point out: Lawyers. Who knows why who did what, but this particular item is probably 1 of 10,000,000 and whatever recommendations were made (or not) may not h

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2009-03-18 Thread Jerry Johnson
If Dodd, who I know personally, was in fact the one who literally in the middle of the night last Sept removed the "no bonuses" clause that the bill authors had in the bill, then he needs to be called out on that. But, my understanding is, there really is no way currently to know who removed it

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2009-03-18 Thread Robert Munn
Says the guy who spends most of his days bashing the previous administration ... On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Gruss wrote: > > > RoMunn wrote: > > Geithner was the architect of the > > Obama had an opportunity to have these bonus payments > > but Chris Dodd put in > > You, and your attitude,

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2009-03-18 Thread Gruss Gott
> gMoney wrote: > > Haven't watched it, don't really know what's going on... I bet you'll have some input on this: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/09/03/18/March-Madness-At-the-White-House/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is

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2009-03-18 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Geithner was the architect of the > Obama had an opportunity to have these bonus payments > but Chris Dodd put in You, and your attitude, is one of the reasons America sucks right now, why our finances our crap, and why we've got 25 year long mess to clean up. I can only hope t

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2009-03-18 Thread Jerry Johnson
Yeah, but I personally wouldn't have taken it in the first place. But then, I have to live with myself. Maybe they don't. With that in mind, if they don't voluntarily give it back, I wholeheartedly agree with moving to get it back, and moving (as some are talking) with a suit against the execs,

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2009-03-18 Thread G Money
Haven't watched it, don't really know what's going oni do know this: If someone cut me a huge check, then asked me to "do the right thing by giving half of it back", I'd tell them to phuck off :) 2009/3/18 Erika L. Walker > > I feel kinda bad for Liddy ... > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 3:09

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2009-03-18 Thread Erika L. Walker
I feel kinda bad for Liddy ... On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > Yes. And I think Liddy is doing very well, but the jerk from Massachusetts > embarrassed everybody. > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 softwa

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2009-03-18 Thread Jerry Johnson
Yes. And I think Liddy is doing very well, but the jerk from Massachusetts embarrassed everybody. 2009/3/18 Erika L. Walker > > Anyone listening to the hearing right now? Absolutely fascinating. > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion®

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2009-03-18 Thread Erika L. Walker
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