Re: Angry Army Bikers drown out Phelps' message

2006-02-21 Thread Jerry Johnson
Actually, military funerals at governement cemetaries I am a little queasier making a law protecting. But I finally read the stories about the bikers, and I approve fully of their actions. On 2/21/06, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It occurs to me (a little late) that most cemeteries are

Re: Angry Army Bikers drown out Phelps' message

2006-02-21 Thread Ben Doom
It occurs to me (a little late) that most cemeteries are private. I don't think there should be a law, but no one is stopping the cemetery, church, etc. from asking the protesters to leave. I realize that this doesn't work fo military funerals in gov't cemeteries, though. :-\ --Ben dana tie

RE: Angry Army Bikers drown out Phelps' message

2006-02-21 Thread Scott Stewart
Isn't a funeral or a wedding a private affair? Does the mourner's right to privacy trump any right to free speech. -Original Message- From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:32 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Angry Army Bikers drown

Re: Angry Army Bikers drown out Phelps' message

2006-02-21 Thread dana tierney
I share the concern, thought I've already said that limiting demonstrations at funerals seems like a reasonable limit to free speech. On reflection I am not so sure, but it seems as though a funeral is the last chance the living have to honor the deceased so it's a little different than a weddi

Re: Angry Army Bikers drown out Phelps' message

2006-02-21 Thread G
> Phelps is just a jackass, plain and simple... he's gonna be really > surprised > where he ends up.. > In hell, surrounded by hundreds of really surprised suicide bombers.? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.

RE: Angry Army Bikers drown out Phelps' message

2006-02-21 Thread Scott Stewart
AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Angry Army Bikers drown out Phelps' message If he says God hates anyone, he has missed the entire message of the Bible. As a Chrisitian, I am commanded to love everyone. I have to love the sinner, just hate the sin. Phelps is just a hate monger who probably har

Re: Angry Army Bikers drown out Phelps' message

2006-02-21 Thread Jerry Johnson
Because I believe that political speech should be the most protected type of speech. There should be a much higher standard before demonstrations in front of political gatherings are restricted in any way. Demonstrations in front of private funerals are another thing. The problem with counter de

Re: Angry Army Bikers drown out Phelps' message

2006-02-21 Thread Ben Doom
No, no, no. It's all about dancing around in learher pants to "Everyody Sweat Now" and grinding up against his followers. Killing them is quick -- humiliating them is a gift that keeps on giving! --Ben Nick McClure wrote: > Oddly enough I'd be ok with them drowning out his speakers with a hail

RE: Angry Army Bikers drown out Phelps' message

2006-02-21 Thread Nick McClure
Oddly enough I'd be ok with them drowning out his speakers with a hail of bullets. But hey, that is just me. > -Original Message- > From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:07 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Angry Army Bik

Re: Angry Army Bikers drown out Phelps' message

2006-02-21 Thread Ben Doom
I understand your intent -- protesting at funerals is just rude. That wouldn't stop me from showing up at Phelps' funeral with a big sign that says "He loved the man-cock", but I'm rude on occasion. However, I have to politely disagree. If we aren't allowed to protest at funerals, what's next

Re: Angry Army Bikers drown out Phelps' message

2006-02-21 Thread G
> If it was OK to pop the offenders on the nose, I'd say let them > demonstrate. > But since I can't legally show my disdain for the demonstrators, there > should be some limits. > Yes you can. See the bikers? They were legally showing their disdain for the demonstrators. And how can you say wh

Re: Angry Army Bikers drown out Phelps' message

2006-02-21 Thread Jerry Johnson
And I hope it stays. I am all for free speech. More so than most people. I don't think this infringes on free speech. The demonstrators can still speak all they want. They just aren't guarenteed a captive (and grieving) audience. I don't believe this should be allowed for all types of events (I t

Re: Angry Army Bikers drown out Phelps' message

2006-02-21 Thread Russel Madere
If he says God hates anyone, he has missed the entire message of the Bible. As a Chrisitian, I am commanded to love everyone. I have to love the sinner, just hate the sin. Phelps is just a hate monger who probably harbors homosexual tendencies and hates himself and the world because of it.

Re: Angry Army Bikers drown out Phelps' message

2006-02-21 Thread Deanna Schneider
Wisconsin just passed a law that it's illegal to demonstrate within 500 feet (or was it yards) of a funeral. Not sure how I feel about that - I mean, I get the sentiment - but it still seems like a first amendment issue. I have a feeling it'll go to court. On 2/21/06, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Angry Army Bikers drown out Phelps' message

2006-02-21 Thread Ben Doom
http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1546852.php Found, appropriately, on Fark with a HERO tag. Phelps is an ass, and I say this based on behavior, regardless of message. I hate his message, too, but... Anyway, the Patriot Guard showed up and drowned out his speakers in a roar of mo