On 9/6/07, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > it up for questions at the end, and a fellow student asks: "Is faster
> > than
> > light
> > travel possible?"- to which the Scientist says "No- this isn't star-
> > trek"!!
>
> It's a common misconception but science has no responsibility t
>>
>> There is no "scientific community as a whole" that could put money, time
>> or
>> effort into anything. The Navy is funding part of the "scientific
>> community
>> as a whole" - so part of the community is, in fact studying the issue.
>
>
>Actually, there is in the respect that there are a l
>
> There is no "scientific community as a whole" that could put money, time
> or
> effort into anything. The Navy is funding part of the "scientific
> community
> as a whole" - so part of the community is, in fact studying the issue.
Actually, there is in the respect that there are a limited nu
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:18 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Ben Stein's "Expelled"
>
> > EXACTLY: once experiment, experience and consensus (a long, ar
> -Original Message-
> From: Dinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:17 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Ben Stein's "Expelled"
>
> Here's my stock experience that gets at the heart of what Micheal is
> get
if you footnote your emails
you might be a geek.
On 9/6/07, Dinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/6/07, G Money wrote:
> >
> > I disagree.
>
>
> I don't. :) Not arguing for Creationism or whatnot- but I know what MikeD
> is
> talking about.
>
> Scientists LOVE to challenge the known "stan
On 9/6/07, G Money wrote:
>
> I disagree.
I don't. :) Not arguing for Creationism or whatnot- but I know what MikeD
is
talking about.
Scientists LOVE to challenge the known "standard", it's what drives many of
> them. If a scientist could find definitive evidence that evolution is
> bunkoh
I don't particularly support intelligent design, but I do think that
there is a political correctness on some topics in some areas of
science. For example, life elsewhere is extremely unlikely, but talk
of this is discouraged as this fact makes it harder to get NASA
funded. For another example, I w
> EXACTLY: once experiment, experience and consensus (a long, arduous,
> contentious process) reach a conclusion it takes extraordinary evidence to
> alter it. That's a core principle of the scientific method.
Yes, that is a core but there are certain topics that become taboo. Try to
forget about
> I think you have to... anybody familiar with the competitive, contentious
> and often downright soap-opera dramatic world of science knows that the
> idea
> of a secret, global, concerted conspiracy of scientists is simply
> ridiculous.
Yes, what he said. Ridiculous!
/me gives Jim the secret
> Show me compelling scientific evidence that evolution is bunk, and I'll
> become a skeptic in a heart beat. I have no emotional ties to
> evolution.it's just reality. It's just "fact" as we know it to be. I've
> never understood why that is such a difficult concept for some people?
I agree.
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:53 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Ben Stein's "Expelled"
>
> The problem is, he's right to an extent. Once the scientific worl
I disagree.
Scientists LOVE to challenge the known "standard", it's what drives many of
them. If a scientist could find definitive evidence that evolution is
bunkoh man, they'd be world famous! What the ID crazies fail to
comprehend, is that the reason evolution has never been seriously challe
The problem is, he's right to an extent. Once the scientific world sets a
'standard', anything against that standard is almost hitting a brick wall.
The community is against Cold Fusion (the physics idea), so no experiments
or papers on it are accepted or treated seriously. Same for ANY challenge t
Just like Loathe, I think you and I must relegate ourselves to never
being represented by the white house. :)
Remember, we're the most distrusted group of people according to the poles.
On 9/5/07, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anybody else see this?
>
> Basically Ben Stein is doing a d
Anybody else see this?
Basically Ben Stein is doing a documentary (not yet released) in which he
posits that Intelligent Design is not being defeated because it's
scientifically invalid but rather do a concerted, organized conspiracy
against "new ideas" in science - he actually calls it "Big Scien
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