Re: CF vs PHP Code Slamdown

2009-03-05 Thread Robert Munn
ROTFL You target the pointy haired bosses so they buy it, and college students so they can hire cheap labor to use it. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Why the hell would you want to advertise Coldfusion to Programmers??? > You need to advertise it to Pointy Haired Bosses and

Re: CF vs PHP Code Slamdown

2009-03-05 Thread Maureen
It doesn't usually work that way, unless the boss is also a geek. In all the years I've been doing this (like since dirt was invented) I've only had one project where the client insisted on a particular technology. Unfortunately, that technology was Spectra. Their choice of Spectra turned a 50K

Re: CF vs PHP Code Slamdown

2009-03-05 Thread Vivec
Really? So the programmers will go to their bosses..and tell them to buy this. ANd their bosses will run out and buy it. I kinda think of it the other way around, where the bosses in these firms dictate what is used and when. I know several IT professionals who have been steamrolled into using a

Re: CF vs PHP Code Slamdown

2009-03-05 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Justin Scott wrote: > > Vivec wrote: > > Why the hell would you want to advertise Coldfusion to Programmers??? > > Because they're the ones who would be using it. Once they learn the > joys of CF they will go to their PHB and tell them to buy it. Seems > obvious

Re: CF vs PHP Code Slamdown

2009-03-05 Thread Justin Scott
Vivec wrote: > Why the hell would you want to advertise Coldfusion to Programmers??? Because they're the ones who would be using it. Once they learn the joys of CF they will go to their PHB and tell them to buy it. Seems obvious to me... -Justin ~~~

Re: CF vs PHP Code Slamdown

2009-03-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Yeh, why bother advertising it to people who would use it. ColdFusion has always come up through the ranks by its users, not down through the ranks from bosses. Doing a pincer move to cover both sides would be nice, but you can't drop the programmer base without losing the ground gained to date.

Re: CF vs PHP Code Slamdown

2009-03-05 Thread Vivec
Why the hell would you want to advertise Coldfusion to Programmers??? You need to advertise it to Pointy Haired Bosses and "dumb as doorknob" investors and business owners who would then Dictate to their IT departments that they should start using CF. ~

Re: CF vs PHP Code Slamdown

2009-03-05 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > Adobe had ColdFusion banner ads on sites and found them to be lacking so > they've been removed across the net. They had ads in magazines and pulled > all of them a year ago (print is dead, don't you know). EWeek and Network World amo

Re: CF vs PHP Code Slamdown

2009-03-05 Thread Justin Scott
Michael Dinowitz wrote: > Adobe had ColdFusion banner ads on sites and found them to be lacking so > they've been removed across the net. They had ads in magazines and pulled > all of them a year ago (print is dead, don't you know). How/Where exactly > should they market ColdFusion? Google ads? Go

Re: CF vs PHP Code Slamdown

2009-03-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Adobe had ColdFusion banner ads on sites and found them to be lacking so they've been removed across the net. They had ads in magazines and pulled all of them a year ago (print is dead, don't you know). How/Where exactly should they market ColdFusion? Google ads? Got them. Print ads? See above (ac

Re: CF vs PHP Code Slamdown

2009-03-05 Thread Vivec
Blame that on the lack of a multi million dollar marketing budget for CF. 2009/3/5 Michael Grant : > > The only time I hate CF is when I'm looking for a new job. For every 500 > asp.net or php jobs theres like 1 cf job :( > *sigh* ~

Re: CF vs PHP Code Slamdown

2009-03-05 Thread Michael Grant
That's totally sweet. We all know CF rocks! The only time I hate CF is when I'm looking for a new job. For every 500 asp.net or php jobs theres like 1 cf job :( *sigh* On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Erika L. Walker wrote: > > http://www.philosophyme.com/index.cfm?blog=93 > > > ~

Re: CF vs PHP Code Slamdown

2009-03-05 Thread Yves Arsenault
Nice. Yves Arsenault "Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend". --Martin Luther King, Jr. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Erika L. Walker wrote: > > http://www.philosophyme.com/index.cfm?blog=93 > > >

CF vs PHP Code Slamdown

2009-03-05 Thread Erika L. Walker
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