Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-07-06 Thread Scott Stewart
I'll put in a vote for NCDevCon, in Raleigh, NC..(not just because I was a presenter there this year). I was an attendee the first year and it was a conference full of quality speakers and sessions, and it was FREE. This year we did a whole set of "CF101" hands on sessions, along with a broader ra

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-07-06 Thread Andrew Clarke
I understand this is probably a loaded question, but what are peoples' opinions on the "best" conference to attend? I've been developing ColdFusion apps for about 13 years now and have most of the features that have been around for a while down pretty well. However, I have only one client usi

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread denstar
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Robert Munn wrote: ... > It's too bad about CFUnited. Many, many conferences have had huge > difficulties in the last two years because of the economy. > > As for the CF community in general, lots of the older folks in the > community have moved into management ro

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Vivec wrote: > > For someone in my position, it seems useful for annoying clients that insist > on installing the entire CMS,Web and SQL Server > on their little local servers fed with a 1Mbit connection. I have been working on my Colony platform on and off for

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > > This actually echos something I have been observing in the CF > community for the last few years.  When I first started doing CF > development work in the 90's there was alot of excitement among > developers.  Alot of passion, and al

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread denstar
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:53 PM, denstar wrote: >>> new stuff != new leadership >> >> I think we must be in different cliques or some such.  ;-) >> >> A lot of these authors are leaders, IMO.  Perhaps even objectively. > > No, I thin

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:53 PM, denstar wrote: >> new stuff != new leadership > > I think we must be in different cliques or some such.  ;-) > > A lot of these authors are leaders, IMO.  Perhaps even objectively. No, I think alot of authors are leaders. I am not saying they aren't Just saying

RE: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Eric Roberts
-community Subject: Re: CFUnited Conference - Done this is complete bat shit.. there is still fire in the cf-com i demand a refund. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Antholo

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread denstar
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:10 PM, denstar wrote: >> ColdBox, CFWheels, Mura, etc., have all been pretty freaking active. >> Lots of new stuff coming down the pipes, etc.. > > new stuff != new leadership I think we must be in different

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Maureen
No. Spectra = right idea - wrong execution. I've worked extensively with both joomla and drupal, plus a bunch of the add-ons and plug-ins. Also numerous API's for social networking. Attempting to consolidate the best of the best into one system that lets you configure based on the modules you ne

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Jerry Johnson
Is it called "Spectra"? On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Building exactly that. Should be done in the next 30 days. > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Vivec wrote: > > > > What we need that we do not have yet is a Coldfusion based CMS comparable > to Drupal. > ~

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Maureen
Building exactly that. Should be done in the next 30 days. On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Vivec wrote: > > What we need that we do not have yet is a Coldfusion based CMS comparable to > Drupal. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread morchella
this is complete bat shit.. there is still fire in the cf-com i demand a refund. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Arc

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
So you download the R2R version of Mura. Just unzip and go. What's so difficult about that? On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Vivec wrote: > > No doubt, Mura is probably awesome. > > I use a proprietary CMS system which rocks, and that's what I'm saying. > I think most of us do that.I figure a lo

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:10 PM, denstar wrote: > ColdBox, CFWheels, Mura, etc., have all been pretty freaking active. > Lots of new stuff coming down the pipes, etc.. new stuff != new leadership -Cameron ... ~| Order the Ado

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2010-06-30 Thread Vivec
No doubt, Mura is probably awesome. I use a proprietary CMS system which rocks, and that's what I'm saying. I think most of us do that.I figure a lot of companies have their own system. My issue with Mura is that the tutorials and documentation were seriously lacking. For someone in my position

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Vivec
Actually that got me thinking of how these things came about. The free nature of PHP had a role to play..but there is a Core group of developers that direct the entire project: http://drupal.org/node/21778 http://baheyeldin.com/technology/drupal/khalid-on-ohloh-drupal-contributions.html There is

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Try creating a theme in Drupal and tell me about being lost. Its very plain CF not difficult at all.You download it and install at the site's webroot.. you run a SQL script on your db ide. Then its just a matter of navigating forms. Customizing the layout page is also very easy. if you know CSS fo

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Vivec
Are you CRAZY?? You know how much that would COST? :) On 30 June 2010 18:54, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > Why don't you write one. And release it. > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Vivec wrote: > > > > What we need that we do not have yet is a Coldfusion based CMS comparable > to > > Drupal. >

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Erika L. Rich
Why don't you write one. And release it. On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Vivec wrote: > > What we need that we do not have yet is a Coldfusion based CMS comparable to > Drupal. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Vivec
I looked at Mura and I was lost. That could be because I suck. On 30 June 2010 18:41, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Have you tried Mura? Having worked with both Mura and Drupal, I've > found Mura to be much easier to set up a theme - with Drupal its > really quite an effort. Admittedly Mura does no

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Have you tried Mura? Having worked with both Mura and Drupal, I've found Mura to be much easier to set up a theme - with Drupal its really quite an effort. Admittedly Mura does not have the sheer quantity of plugins available for it. But writing a plugin for Mura is very easy, much easier than Dru

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread denstar
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Vivec wrote: > > What we need that we do not have yet is a Coldfusion based CMS comparable to > Drupal. > Everything out there is bloody complicated and convoluted to use in my view. Mura isn't so bad, and FarCry is powerful and mature. Drupal isn't exactly non-c

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Vivec
What we need that we do not have yet is a Coldfusion based CMS comparable to Drupal. Everything out there is bloody complicated and convoluted to use in my view. And it has to be open source so that anyone can pick it up to use, and we can all write plug-ins and add-ons/modules for it. And conver

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread denstar
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: >> There are a lot of people >> doing cool stuff and mailing lists, blogs and what not are all very >> active, but the community has matured in a lot of ways. > > True.  I have see

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
That's what I'm hoping. But I agree I cannot see why they could not scale it back and try for one of the other conference venues. There are quite a few in this region. There are also a number of universities with fairly good conference facilities that could also be used. On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 2

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Maureen
I don't think this is limited to the CF Community, I think it is universal throughout several industries. I see the same situation in the digital music industry. In the 90s, the web was new. Every thing about it was new and exciting. I still remember the absolute thrill I had when I created my

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Erika L. Rich
I don't see why it can't be scaled back, at a less "resort like" place. Where emphasis is on the conference, not how gorgeous or plush the hotel and surroundings can be. (although sure it's a plus) I mean the importance here is the content and networking. I'm pretty sure the majority of develope

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > There are a lot of people > doing cool stuff and mailing lists, blogs and what not are all very > active, but the community has matured in a lot of ways. True. I have seen a couple of "waves" of CF leaders. The first came in during the l

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Judah McAuley
I've wanted to go to CFUnited but never have, but honestly, the newer conferences that have popped up have been more appealing, like CFObjective and Scotch On The Rocks. Given that both those conferences have started in the last couple years and you've also seen Railo and OpenBD take off in that t

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Ras Tafari
me too. sxsw 2011 On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > Yeah I spoke last year but I'm not even going this year.  Part of it's > money, part of it's that I want to start attending a different variety > of conferences instead.  SXSW, WWDC, maybe others. > > -Camer

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
that really sucks. I hope that something else takes its place. On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > Just saw this on the twittersphere.  This is that last year for > CFUnited.  The conference will not happen in 2011. > > http://bit.ly/beqV4v > > Sad, so sad. > > This ac

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Matt Williams
>Just saw this on the twittersphere. This is that last year for >CFUnited. The conference will not happen in 2011. > >http://bit.ly/beqV4v > I think the community is still plenty vibrant. Look at the many mini-conferences that have sprouted up across the country. I would speculate that the ov

Re: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Sandra Clark wrote: > I think it's a victim of the recession.  There are very influential > companies that have undergone layoffs lately and frankly, when companies are > tightening their belts, education and conferences are one of the first > things they don't d

RE: CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Sandra Clark
TED since 2002 (with the exception of last year). But I don't think it's a matter of passion in the language waning. -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:30 AM To: cf-community Subject: CFUnited Conference

CFUnited Conference - Done

2010-06-30 Thread Cameron Childress
Just saw this on the twittersphere. This is that last year for CFUnited. The conference will not happen in 2011. http://bit.ly/beqV4v Sad, so sad. This actually echos something I have been observing in the CF community for the last few years. When I first started doing CF development work in