oh well.. yeah when you cross the border you are at the mercy of
whatever psycho is working the booth, sure
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Larry Lyons wrote:
>
>>yeah they can, but they usually don't. Unless the subject looks Mexican.
>>
>
> I've seen them do the same at crossings along the W
>yeah they can, but they usually don't. Unless the subject looks Mexican.
>
I've seen them do the same at crossings along the Washington State / BC border
and along crossings on the border between Minnesota, Ontario and Manitoba.
After I graduated from my masters program and was working on a
yeah they can, but they usually don't. Unless the subject looks Mexican.
On 4/29/10, Larry Lyons wrote:
>
> I was involved in doing some training development for Immigration before I
> got into web development. I got very familiar with what ICE personnel can and
> cannot do. They can detain c
nice try. Next...
On 4/29/10, Sam wrote:
>
> I thought my wanting you to get a ticket was funny :P
>
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Dana wrote:
> >
> > You know what Sam, you just reminded me of an insight I had from that
> > stop sign thing -- you have less sense of humor than the Californ
NOT.
I told you nit to listen or read him.
The report he refers to was from Dec 2009. Orange County just STARTED
checking status in March 2010.
LA and Ventura Co's started ion May 2009, I don't think they finished yet.
Also note, it checks current inmates against passed immigration
issues. I'm
BTW, aren't most CA prisoners in Arizona?
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Sam wrote:
> NOT.
>
> I told you nit to listen or read him.
>
> The report he refers to was from Dec 2009. Orange County just STARTED
> checking status in March 2010.
> LA and Ventura Co's started ion May 2009, I don't th
>Just out of curiosity (and I'm not trying to be a smartass) was pre or
>post 9/11, because I think the Virginia licensing laws changed after
>9/11
>
>On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Larry Lyons wrote:
>>
Last time I renewed I didn't have to show I was an American. But I suspect that
J-1 visas
I was involved in doing some training development for Immigration before I got
into web development. I got very familiar with what ICE personnel can and
cannot do. They can detain citizens or resident aliens until they can prove
legal residence in the US.
Personally I think this sucks, but th
I thought my wanting you to get a ticket was funny :P
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> You know what Sam, you just reminded me of an insight I had from that
> stop sign thing -- you have less sense of humor than the California
> Highway Patrol...
>
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They just started checking status on intake in an automated fashion.
As you might be able to tell from the official report I linked to,
they did a survey of the entire prison population as of Dec 31st 2009.
One would presume that they took the list of inmates, ran it through
the USICE system, flag
You know what Sam, you just reminded me of an insight I had from that
stop sign thing -- you have less sense of humor than the California
Highway Patrol...
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> That's odd since they just started checking status:
>
> http://www.pappaslaw.com/index.php/
Honestly, I am not so worried about illegal immigrants having
insurance so they can drive as I am about illegal immigrants in
general.
I understand there are a variety of reasons why people come here
(legally or illegally) but if you are here illegally, you are breaking
a law. That being said, it
That's odd since they just started checking status:
http://www.pappaslaw.com/index.php/2010/03/17/orange-county-ca-jail-begins-to-check-immigration-status-of-inmates/
And LA last May
http://www.correctionsone.com/corrections/articles/1844000-Calif-jails-will-check-immigration-status-as-inmates-a
that sounds more plausible, thanks Judah
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
>
> And looking at the actual data table:
>
> http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/capitolalertlatest/USICE2d0912%20(2)1.pdf
>
> It looks like there are 18101 with definite immigration holds, meaning
I don't think my record is particularly spotty but what's this about
not giving up the green card? You can pay extra to not do that? Cause
it's pretty hard to function without it and assuming I had the cash I
would indeed pay to not languish at their mercy while they were
processing the applicatio
but it makes it *possible* while preventing this ensures that no
illegal immigrant with have insurance if they drive
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> To me, driver's licenses are like IT certifications. They do not prove
> anything other than you can take a test.
>
> As f
Just the bad drivers.
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> I understand the shooting bad drivers part but why the illegals?
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:12 PM, morgan l wrote:
> >
> > I don't know about Scott, but I certainly do.
> >
>
>
Does that mean you need to own a car first to get a license?
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
>
> In Oregon, at least, you are required to have proof of insurance in
> order to get a license. I will agree that passing a driving exam isn't
> proof that you really are a good d
I understand the shooting bad drivers part but why the illegals?
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:12 PM, morgan l wrote:
>
> I don't know about Scott, but I certainly do.
>
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And looking at the actual data table:
http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/capitolalertlatest/USICE2d0912%20(2)1.pdf
It looks like there are 18101 with definite immigration holds, meaning
that they are here illegally and 4072 with possible holds, meaning
they are being investigated, out of a tot
It looks like the current numbers for California are actually about 13%
http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/capitolalertlatest/2010/01/corrections-sta.html
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> "They've had a gang problem in Salinas for decades, according to the news
> here
I don't know about Scott, but I certainly do.
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> Now you want to shoot bad drivers too? You are such a right winger.
>
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> >
> > I think we have all experienced a lot of people with driver's licens
"They've had a gang problem in Salinas for decades, according to the news
here. That 50% is a bit eye-popping, you sure about that?"
Nope. I am not sure. The number came from the Justice Department. It
might be too low.
"ok and how does this correlate with illegal immigration please?"
Any
I want to shoot bad drivers
I don't mind admitting that. I would shoot every single asshole that I see
driving while talking on their cell phone. BOOM! Dead. Man, i'm getting a
hard on just thinking about that.
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> Now you want to shoot bad driv
>I am doing green card --> naturalization, not applying for a green
>card, but wow, that's rather breathtaking. No wonder a lot of people
>choose snow.
>
>On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Larry Lyons wrote:
>>
BTW that fee of $2300 for a vanilla type application is for naturalization.
There ar
In Oregon, at least, you are required to have proof of insurance in
order to get a license. I will agree that passing a driving exam isn't
proof that you really are a good driver. None the less, I'd rather
that people at least have that minimal knowledge combined with proof
of insurance than to be
uhm.. go to North Carolina for a few days, the only thing that a
drivers license guarentees is that you passed the test, kinda like
Microsoft Certification.
NC does require that you have insurance, but doesn't require that
you're actually capable of driving.
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Juda
To me, driver's licenses are like IT certifications. They do not prove
anything other than you can take a test.
As for insurance, having a license does not necessarily mean you are
going to run out and buy insurance, Sure, we would like to think that
all drivers are responsible like ourselves, bu
No, I don't think it does at all. Because by your analysis, it doesn't
do any good to have drivers licenses or insurance for anyone because
some people who have licenses don't drive well and some who have
licenses don't have insurance. But I think that it is quite obvious
that having a drivers lic
Now you want to shoot bad drivers too? You are such a right winger.
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> I think we have all experienced a lot of people with driver's licenses
> who, arguably, do not know how to drive. I also have experienced my
> fair share of licensed driver
I think we have all experienced a lot of people with driver's licenses
who, arguably, do not know how to drive. I also have experienced my
fair share of licensed drivers who have not had insurance. So, it kind
of shoots that theory in the ass, now, doesn't it?
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Jud
Larry, you figured me out. This is all a ploy to get my real agenda
pushed through, shooting all illegal immigrants. It is quite leap to
go from advocating against allowing illegal immigrants to get driver's
licenses and advocating that we shoot them all.
Why is it that whenever you go against ei
They've had a gang problem in Salinas for decades, according to the
news here. That 50% is a bit eye-popping, you sure about that?
> You see my point then. It is harder to concentrate on gangs and made up of
> citizens and other crimes when time has to be divided up to deal with all
> gangs and
I am doing green card --> naturalization, not applying for a green
card, but wow, that's rather breathtaking. No wonder a lot of people
choose snow.
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Larry Lyons wrote:
>
>>costs about a thousand dollars and I already have had to emigrate to
>>Silicon Valley to g
Oregon has always been a state that wanted to issue drivers licenses
to illegal immigrants under the theory that there are going to be
illegal immigrants here and it is much better to make sure they know
how to drive and have insurance than not know how to drive and not
have insurance and be drivi
Just out of curiosity (and I'm not trying to be a smartass) was pre or
post 9/11, because I think the Virginia licensing laws changed after
9/11
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Larry Lyons wrote:
>
>>> They are already breaking the law by being here, does anyone really think
>>they will start c
>costs about a thousand dollars and I already have had to emigrate to
>Silicon Valley to get work ;) but I've had the paperwork ready for
>quite a while now. Several years.
>
>On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:31 AM, G Money wrote:
>>
Much more than a thousand. Just the initial application for a green c
where.
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Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 1:09 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Closing the border
>Once again, I do not think you should be allowed to get a driver's
>license in the US if you are not a citizen or legal re
>Once again, I do not think you should be allowed to get a driver's
>license in the US if you are not a citizen or legal resident. If your
>Canadian license expires while you are here, tough shit - go back to
>Canada and get a new one. It is your responsibility to make sure your
>driver's license
>> They are already breaking the law by being here, does anyone really think
>they will start caring about the law when it comes to auto insurance?
>
>Our of curiosity, is it possible to not have a green card and get both a
>license and auto insurance? If it is than I can definitely see why an
>il
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> Great another party line voter, just what we need.
>
Someone's got to offset you.
--
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The restless dream of youth
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Great another party line voter, just what we need.
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:31 AM, G Money wrote:
>
> Why don't you just become a citizen alreadycome on over the dark side
>
> *evil laugh*
>
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He said LEGAL RESIDENTS.
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Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:20 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Closing the border
works for short trips, less so for longer stays. Some people are here
for years quite legally, you know. I
"But this is anecdotal and I don't think you can hang the de-funding of
schools exclusively on immigration vs say war spending."
School spending is a state level issue. War funding is a federal level
issue. States do receive federal aid for schools. I bet you can guess
where I stand on that is
...
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:36 AM, G Money wrote:
>
> pffft..lazy foreigner :)
>
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Dana wrote:
>
>>
>> costs about a thousand dollars and I already have had to emigrate to
>> Silicon Valley to get work ;) but I've had the paperwork ready for
>> quite
pffft..lazy foreigner :)
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Dana wrote:
>
> costs about a thousand dollars and I already have had to emigrate to
> Silicon Valley to get work ;) but I've had the paperwork ready for
> quite a while now. Several years.
>
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:31 AM, G
you know that if I was a Reblican, I'd call that an unfunded mandate, right?
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> Maybe a special driver's license for that kind of situation...like how many
> states put a red background on the pics for those who are under 21...this
> would ma
costs about a thousand dollars and I already have had to emigrate to
Silicon Valley to get work ;) but I've had the paperwork ready for
quite a while now. Several years.
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:31 AM, G Money wrote:
>
> Why don't you just become a citizen alreadycome on over the dark side
Why don't you just become a citizen alreadycome on over the dark side
*evil laugh*
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Dana wrote:
>
> works for short trips, less so for longer stays. Some people are here
> for years quite legally, you know. I was here for about five years
> before I applied
Maybe a special driver's license for that kind of situation...like how many
states put a red background on the pics for those who are under 21...this
would make it obvious to law enforcement that they are legal aliens.
Eric
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> Hey, no plan
Hey, no plan is perfect. I admit there are fringe cases where what I
think should be would cause issues.
I think that in those cases, where you are here legally, for an
extended period of time, that you should be able to apply for a
driver's license here. But, you should have to surrender it when
works for short trips, less so for longer stays. Some people are here
for years quite legally, you know. I was here for about five years
before I applied for a green card.
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> Once again, I do not think you should be allowed to get a driver's
>
Once again, I do not think you should be allowed to get a driver's
license in the US if you are not a citizen or legal resident. If your
Canadian license expires while you are here, tough shit - go back to
Canada and get a new one. It is your responsibility to make sure your
driver's license is u
Either way, none of them should be allowed to get a driver's license
in the US if they are not a legal resident or citizen, in my opinion.
Again, if they have a valid license in their country of origin, than
they should be able to legally operate a motor vehicle.
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:06 AM,
forgot to address this. Suppose you were there for several months and
your license expired while you were there? I think my dad went through
something of the kind while we were in France, though I don't remember
if he resolved it by getting a French license. I am also sure that
this arose while we
I am not actually sure what the law is about Canadians entering the
country as snowbirds, so I can't say. I strongly suspect that many do
in fact overstay their visas. I have also heard that a great many
students also overstay their visas, and that these students are more
likely to be dangerous th
not if you are working for yourself though, or with a countryman in a
part of town where nobody cares. But what you say has some truth to
it. A Mexican doctor or web developer is likely to be legal for the
reasons you give. I'd consider mechanic, cook or carpenter to be
skilled jobs though.
There
1. I feel safe in assuming your father and Canadians who vacation in
FL 6 months out of the year were/are not here illegally.
2. I also feel safe in assuming that in those 2 cases, they could
legally operate a motor vehicle based on the drivers license from
their home country.
I went to Scotland
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Dana wrote:
> m not sure. They *get* jobs as unskilled labor. Does not mean they
> don't have skills.
I know you are aware that I am using the term "unskilled labor" in a
very specific manner.
I would suspect there is a very strong relationship between the l
The thing is, it isn't "probable cause", it is "reasonable suspicion"
which is a much lower legal standard. From a police perspective, a
curious looking bulge in someone's pants waistband might be reasonable
suspicion that they have a weapon but it isn't probable cause. This
law also isn't about
There are US citizens who do not speak english. I know some people
feel that should not be the case, but it *is* true. As to your
speculation, I do not know if you are right about the specialized
meaning but think you give them too much credit. This is a very
right-wing session of a very right-win
The illegals probably have some impact on schools.
By the way, I meant to post that study yesterday and got pulled away.
The one I saw a while back said that the net effect of illegal
immigration was slightly positive. I did not put my hands on that one
but googling "economic effects illegal immi
I'm no lawyer, so I could be off here, but doesn't 'suspect' in a legal sense
imply that an officer has some reasonable cause for said suspicion? IE, "He
looks Mexican" isn't probable cause, but "He either can't or refuses to speak
English" might be.
And yes, I realize that in the real world m
The point, Bill Richardson's point I believe, is that the problem is
bad enough without creating a class of citizens who will necessarily
add to it. Public transportation is not an option in 90% of the state.
For what it may be worth, I agree.
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
You said it was a privilege that is or should be (I forget and am not
going to look it up) restricted to citizens and legal residents. What
about my dad when he moved here? He was here for three years as a
foreign correspondent for a chain of Canadian papers. The visa is a
non-resident visa. What
m not sure. They *get* jobs as unskilled labor. Does not mean they
don't have skills. This is based on anecdotal evidence, but pretty
good anecdotal evidence. A lot of small mechanic's shops and
contractors in certain parts of town in Albuquerque. Mind, I can't
swear to anyone's immigration st
And why would I pay attention to a racist POS?
Eric
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> Not according to: Kris Kobach, a University of Missouri Kansas City
> Law School professor
> who helped draft the measure.
>
> Maybe you should pay attention.
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:16
"evidence that this is related to illegal immigration?"
I'll concede the point. It is illegal to ask students if they are illegal.
Of course their aren't enough ESL teachers so all of the students who can't
speak English are just main streamed.
"games? I am not sure what you are saying here."
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> What is next? Allowing them to vote? I mean, if illegal immigrants pay
> taxes like Dana claims, is that not taxation without representation?
Worth noting that many states do not allow convicted felons to vote.
Illegal Aliens are not convicte
There are plenty of citizens and legal residents who drive without
insurance, what is your point?
Allowing illegal immigrants to get driver's licenses, in a way,
legitimizes their crime.
What is next? Allowing them to vote? I mean, if illegal immigrants pay
taxes like Dana claims, is that not ta
I never said tourists would not be allowed to drive, they should, as
long as they have a valid driver's license in their own country.
Tourist != illegal immigrant
However, tourists should not be allowed to get a driver's license in
the United States if they are not citizens or legal residents. Bu
until you're hit by a driver who was unable to get insurance'cause not
having a drivers license isn't going to stop them from driving.
On Apr 28, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> What you call prejudice, I call common sense.
~
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Scott Stewart wrote:
>
> Sure there'd be an exit strategy..
> Fight their way to Cozumel, and then forget why they came..
>
>
LOL
The day stop in Cozumel on the cruise I took was way too short. Think my
next tropical vacation will be a week on the island.
~
okee
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Medic wrote:
> > Well you equated it with building stuff on the cheap then referred to the
> > Mexican influx as the work force that would be this cheap labour. I think
> > it's a fairly short l
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Medic wrote:
> Well you equated it with building stuff on the cheap then referred to the
> Mexican influx as the work force that would be this cheap labour. I think
> it's a fairly short leap.
Ah - maybe you are confusing stereotyping with reality. Most illegal
key ring flap and snap.
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Medic wrote:
>
> That is cool. I wonder what the little pocket in the top right is for.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Vivec wrote:
>
> >
> > A cool case for tourists to keep their Papers when traveling to Arizona
> >
> > http://
That is cool. I wonder what the little pocket in the top right is for.
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Vivec wrote:
>
> A cool case for tourists to keep their Papers when traveling to Arizona
>
> http://cache-01.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/04/500x_mine.jpg
>
>
>
~~
lobby?? How exactly. ICE is as broken as it is because its
constituency doesn't vote.
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:50 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> "And note that it's not an easy law to comply with due to the size of the
> temporary card, and complying with it is risky as the document is very
> diff
A cool case for tourists to keep their Papers when traveling to Arizona
http://cache-01.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/04/500x_mine.jpg
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whatever. It's a privilege sure but I don't think it has anything to
do with immigration status. Are you saying that Canadian tourists
should not drive? The Florida economy might take a hit then, and all
the states between there and Quebec ;p
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 7:43 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
used to be. In New Mexico and some other states. Of course I do have
one, but it is only recently that I have had to produce it.
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Medic wrote:
>
>> They are already breaking the law by being here, does anyone really think
> they will start caring about the law whe
In America, driving is a privilege afforded to the citizens and legal
residents of each state. If you are here illegally, you are not a
citizen or legal resident of a state, therefore, you should not be
allowed to get a driver's license.
What's next? Should illegals be allowed to get social secur
> They are already breaking the law by being here, does anyone really think
they will start caring about the law when it comes to auto insurance?
Our of curiosity, is it possible to not have a green card and get both a
license and auto insurance? If it is than I can definitely see why an
illegal
well, they did get insurance, actually, before REAL-ID forced New
Mexico to verify citizenship before issuing a driver's license. Your
prejudices are showing. A driver's license doesn't legalize anyone's
immigration status. It's just a license to drive. It does however
allow people to get insuranc
Well you equated it with building stuff on the cheap then referred to the
Mexican influx as the work force that would be this cheap labour. I think
it's a fairly short leap.
Plus in this little scenario they would already have jobs, in the U.S.
Military.
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Camero
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Dana wrote:
> Well, you can't have it both ways. New Mexico stopped requiring proof
> of citizenship for driver's licenses so people could get insurance,
> and got their hands smacked for it, If you want people to have
> insurance, they have to be able to get a d
I was scratching my head over that one too.
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Medic wrote:
>>> Oh look! A new workforce just arrived!
>>
>> How embarrassing, your racism is showing.
>
> How in the world is that racist? 111m new peop
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Medic wrote:
>> Oh look! A new workforce just arrived!
>
> How embarrassing, your racism is showing.
How in the world is that racist? 111m new people come into the
country and you don't want to give them jobs?
-Cameron
..
;
> -Original Message-
> From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:06 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Closing the border
>
>
> > 3) it's impossible to round up and deport all 12 million illegals in the
> US,
> > so we
ok, I will play
> I don't know about Arizona, but here in NC, illegal immigrants have caused a
> huge drain on the school system. The schools systems are constantly
> scrounging for money in order build new schools since the older ones have
> become trailer parks due to the number of mobile clas
> Oh look! A new workforce just arrived!
How embarrassing, your racism is showing.
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I wasnt sleeping ;) and this is not exactly a ramp -- it's an exit
with a t-junction where you make an actual left. It's a couple of
exits down from my usual exit and I stopped because it looks like a
place where a stop sign should be. However, the crossbar of the T
deadends to the right. And by t
Not according to: Kris Kobach, a University of Missouri Kansas City
Law School professor
who helped draft the measure.
Maybe you should pay attention.
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> Actually Sam...the "lawful contact" phrase has been discussed at length
> here...pay
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Scott Stewart
wrote:
> You're going in with that much artillery?
The slingshot is in case I run into Chupacabra.
-Cameron
...
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On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Medic wrote:
> Not once they're equipped with US military standard issue.
> Those are really big slingshots.
Also - who's going to build enough weapons to equip those 111 million.
We're going to have to find some cheap labor to work those factories.
Oh look! A
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Medic wrote:
> Not once they're equipped with US military standard issue.
> Those are really big slingshots.
But step one of your plan was for everyone to leave Mexico. Then I
could invade the country making machine gun sounds with my mouth.
-Cameron
...
Never happen.
We'd stack bodies like cord wood. Their military sucks, bad.
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From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:06 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Closing the border
> 3) it's impossible to round up and deport a
"actually...I'd like to see some documentation for the don't pay taxes,
drain the social services thing. Most do in fact pay taxes and receive no
services at all, from what I have read. I'm not saying illegal immigration
is a *good* thing, but the Arizona law is trying to solve a phantom
problem."
"And note that it's not an easy law to comply with due to the size of the
temporary card, and complying with it is risky as the document is very
difficult
to get replaced."
Then lobby for a better card. That is one of the easiest things to fix in
this whole argument.
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