Re: FBI Lied to expand the Patriot Act.

2008-04-17 Thread Paul Ihrig
i for one came under direct influence of this... but cant really say which "outside gvmt org" tipped gommer pile and his buddies off... complete bs. people should be shot, or at least go to prison over this... been feeling that the government isn't "my" government, for a long time now...

Re: FBI Lied to expand the Patriot Act.

2008-04-17 Thread Loathe
I can say we're in agreement on this issue. Seems like a blatant 4th amendment violation to me. "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable

FBI Lied to expand the Patriot Act.

2008-04-17 Thread Vivec
It probably won't surprise you, but in 2005, the [1]FBI manufactured evidence to get the power to issue National Security Letters under the PATRIOT Act. Unlike normal subpoenas, NSLs do not require probable cause and you're never allowed to talk about having received one, leading to a lack of accou