just for perspective here, Evian recalled all of its product when they found
benzene in their stuff...
>>> Or smoke yourself to death -- but not to lie to people
>
>> True. So we are all good on that front since no-one's
>> trying to say
>> soda's not fattening. Or are they?
>
>Not that I'm awa
>> Or smoke yourself to death -- but not to lie to people
>> about the known
>> effects of a product you sell. :)
> True. So we are all good on that front since no-one's
> trying to say
> soda's not fattening. Or are they?
Not that I'm aware of... Seems to me like that would be
counter-producti
> Or smoke yourself to death -- but not to lie to people about the known
> effects of a product you sell. :)
True. So we are all good on that front since no-one's trying to say
soda's not fattening. Or are they?
-Cameron
~|
Me
> At the end of the day however, the point of this thread
> was initial
> whether or not soda should be considered as ad as cigs and
> if there
> should be some tax or other penalties for soda companies.
> I still say
> that it's pretty obvious that soda's fattening. So are
> Candy bars,
> french
> On 3/6/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Come on Larry, I call bullshit.
>>
>> I'm skinny as hell, and I drink Mountain Dew (highest
>> average sugar and
>> caffeine content of a normal soda) by the case. Why am I
>> not fat and nasty?
>> Because I don't eat like crazy and I stay active.
On 3/9/06, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's insane to assume a that diet and exercise are the solution to
> weight loss when over 50 percent of the population is overweight, even
> most of those who diet and exercise.
50% in the USA, less in other countries. And I would definitely
challe
More likely you're skinny because your body uses insulin to burn the
sugar efficiently. However, if you had any form of insulin
resistance, as a huge number of people do, that much Mountain Dew
would put the pounds on you.
I haven't had a soda in 15 years. The only beverages I consume are
unswee
Hey! Leggo my Egg... Damn it, Larry! :)
> I thought that was a fairly good explanation. First time I
> have had it explained to my satisfaction why sodas would
> be worse than say waffles.
>>There's some mention in the article that high fructose
>>corn syrup increases triglycerides in the blood s
I thought that was a fairly good explanation. First time I have had it
explained to my satisfaction why sodas would be worse than say waffles.
>There's some mention in the article that high fructose corn syrup
>increases triglycerides in the blood stream.
>
>larry
>
>On 3/7/06, Deanna Schneider <
There's some mention in the article that high fructose corn syrup
increases triglycerides in the blood stream.
larry
On 3/7/06, Deanna Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think there's some research out there about how the body metabolizes high
> fructose corn syrup - the main ingredient in
I think there's some research out there about how the body metabolizes high
fructose corn syrup - the main ingredient in most soda - and how the body is
want to store it as fat. But, I haven't confirmed it.
I think part of the issue, really is that we raise our kids now to expect
all things to be
answering myself, courtesy of those bleeding heart liberals at the Kansas City
Star...
Posted on Mon, Mar. 06, 2006
Benzene in soft drinksQuestion of safety gets downplayedThe discovery of trace
amounts of benzene, a chemical linked to cancer, in some soft drinks raises
considerable concern. An
Well see -- what you are saying about sugar was itself conventional wisdom at
one point. However, I do agree with you concerning the spouters of conventional
wisdom. It's just that well, much as I despise saying it, occasionally
concentional wisdom is correct. Apparently ;) Personally, I gave up
On 3/6/06, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Right, but that's not really what I was talking about... The effect of
> what goes in varries from one substance to the next,
Like I said, a factor of what goes in (not how much).
-Cameron
~~~
Right, but that's not really what I was talking about... The effect of
what goes in varries from one substance to the next, and so it's
logical to assume that one substance will cause more weight than
another when every other variable (excercise and amount of substance
being key here) is held in st
On 3/6/06, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> interested etc. As we tightened up the target area, he got reinforced
> for being closer to that corner. By the end of the class he was
> standing in the corner finishing off his lecture. And he never
> realized what we were doing to him, until
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> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 5:01 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: FW: Soft Drinks
There is no magic pill. Moderation is key, just like in everything
else in life.
There is a correlation between what comes in (eating) and what goes
out (exercise). If they are out of balance you get too fat or too
skinny. Metabolism and a few other factors may play a role also, but
it's still
01 PM
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Subject: Re: FW: Soft Drinks may cause obesity
Its something I've done in every learning theory course I've taught.
Google selective reinforcement of verbal behavior. I'll have to dig
into the course notes, but from what I remember It was first discussed
b
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> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:12 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: FW: Soft Drinks may cause obesity
>
> It really doesn't have to be all that overt. All the advertising has to do
> is make you un
the case. Why am I not fat and nasty?
> > Because I don't eat like crazy and I stay active.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tim Heald
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
t eat like crazy and I stay active.
>
>
> --
> Tim Heald
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> -Original Message-
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 3:24 PM
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> -----Original Message-
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 3:24 PM
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> Subject: Re: FW: Soft Drinks may cause obesity
> In other words that's the same set of arguments that big
> tobacco
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Subject: Re: FW: Soft Drinks may cause obesity
It really doesn't have to be all that overt. All the advertising has to do
is make you uncomfortable when trying another brand etc.
I can guarentee you that within 15-30 minutes of talking with you face to
face, I can, to some extent, contr
Of course, advertising does effect people to some extent, but I just
don't buy the "some evil advertising made me do it" bullshit. I mean
seriously folks, do we have no free will whatsoever?
Larry, it would be interesting to see you convince me to drink a soda
with your mystical powers of suggest
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> -Original Message-
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 3:28 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: FW: Soft Drinks may cause obesity
>
> Here's a bit more about the issue - its an
It really doesn't have to be all that overt. All the advertising has
to do is make you uncomfortable when trying another brand etc.
I can guarentee you that within 15-30 minutes of talking with you face
to face, I can, to some extent, control what you say simply by using
some very simple behaviora
ssage-
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 3:31 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: FW: Soft Drinks may cause obesity
I agree, given neutral conditions. But, given the propaganda, pardon
advertising, its no longer a matter of free choice.
larry
On 3/6/06, Ca
Jesus, a pound a month?
My kids would fade away to nothing :)
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-Original Message-
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 3:28 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: FW: Soft Drinks may cause obesity
Here's
--Original Message-
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 3:24 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: FW: Soft Drinks may cause obesity
In other words that's the same set of arguments that big tobacco has been
using for years.
larry
On 3/6/06, Kevin Graeme &l
I guess I have more faith in people's ability to make choices on their
own. I don't remember any advertisement bending my arm behind my back
and making me buy a soda. Assuming everyone knows that soda's "fat
juice", then this is more a matter of willpower - or lack of
willpower.
"Woah is us, the
I agree, given neutral conditions. But, given the propaganda, pardon
advertising, its no longer a matter of free choice.
larry
On 3/6/06, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know soda makes you gain
> weight. Beer is also a significant contr
Here's a bit more about the issue - its an NPR radio report:
http://www.antiwrap.com/?925
Sugar Drinks a Source of Weight Gain for Teens
by Allison Aubrey
Morning Edition, March 6, 2006 ยท Researchers say a simple way for
teens to lose weight is to stop having sugary drinks. Doctors at
Children's
Yeah, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know soda makes you gain
weight. Beer is also a significant contributor.
Mmmm beer...
The question is how much hand holding does the public really need?
Isn't think the slippery slope that opponents to anti smoking laws
use? They say "What's next, a
In other words that's the same set of arguments that big tobacco has
been using for years.
larry
On 3/6/06, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/6/06, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > "I think that's laughable," said Richard Adamson, a senior science
> > consultant to the
On 3/6/06, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "I think that's laughable," said Richard Adamson, a senior science
> consultant to the American Beverage Association. Lack of exercise and
> poor eating habits are far bigger contributors to America's weight
> woes, he said.
That's a hilario
http://www.antiwrap.com/?922
Scientists in food fight over soda
(AP) -- Low-fat, low-cal, low-carb. Atkins, South Beach, The Zone.
Food fads may be distracting attention from something more insidiously
piling on pounds: beverages.
One of every five calories in the American diet is liquid. The
na
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