Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-21 Thread Tony
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 1:32 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Fight-back Friday > > Welp if this one did they din't pull it on me. Though I was fairly irate > at the time and that might account for it. See, the principal had been > too busy

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-21 Thread Dawson, Michael
ommunity Subject: Re: Fight-back Friday Welp if this one did they din't pull it on me. Though I was fairly irate at the time and that might account for it. See, the principal had been too busy to talk to me about an IEP for the kid for several weeks, during which he was being treated as a

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-21 Thread dana tierney
Welp if this one did they din't pull it on me. Though I was fairly irate at the time and that might account for it. See, the principal had been too busy to talk to me about an IEP for the kid for several weeks, during which he was being treated as a discipline problem not a accomodation issue. B

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Sam
Pointing fingers at the other kids might not be the way to go in a small town. Sometimes the rules don't mean anything until a teacher needs them to single a kid out. Seen it happen too many times. But if she's up for the fight go for it. The truth is what happens in school rarely happens in adult

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
rudges are held. > > M!ke > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:21 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Fight-back Friday > > I'd fight it. It sounds like an arbitrary decision based on on

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Dawson, Michael
Good suggestions. -Original Message- From: Chesty Puller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:18 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Fight-back Friday 1) You should have your daughter remove it out of respect for the authority of the school system 2) You should have

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Jerry Johnson
ian's > nether-region... > > M!ke > > -Original Message- > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 10:05 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Fight-back Friday > > See, I would have to nicely disagree. > > I fi

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Todd Ashworth
I think the burning question here is, is she checking that list twice? Also, is she going to be indicating who is naughty and who is nice? On 1/20/06, Dawson, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's a public school, but we have yet to see a policy. I will tell my > girl to bring one home next

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Charlie Griefer
20, 2006 2:15 PM > >To: CF-Community > >Subject: Re: Fight-back Friday > > > >Well what are you doin' this weekend? ;) > > > >>Personally, ear piercings, on chicks, are about it for me. Anything > >>else se

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
t; sort of made mention that he, himself, didn't agree but was bound to > enforce it. > > M!ke > > -Original Message- > From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:18 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Fight-back Friday > &g

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Dawson, Michael
She would have loved that. -Original Message- From: Jillian Koskie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 2:21 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Fight-back Friday Darnit... she was invited too. >Well, the wife is out of t

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Dawson, Michael
ECTED] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:18 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Fight-back Friday all i can say is this... ive seen plenty of nether pierced regions before, and most if not all have been WOW! now, this is akin to my rat-tail way back in 5th grade at my catholic school. they flipped o

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Dawson, Michael
proach the office staff with incorrect information. M!ke -Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:18 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Fight-back Friday all i can say is this... ive seen plenty of nether pierced regions before, and most if no

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Jillian Koskie
Darnit... she was invited too. >Well, the wife is out of town... ;-) > >-Original Message- >From: Jillian Koskie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 2:15 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: Fight-back Friday > >Well what are you doin'

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Dawson, Michael
Well, the wife is out of town... ;-) -Original Message- From: Jillian Koskie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 2:15 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Fight-back Friday Well what are you doin' this weekend? ;) >Personally, ear piercings, on chicks, are

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Tony
all i can say is this... ive seen plenty of nether pierced regions before, and most if not all have been WOW! now, this is akin to my rat-tail way back in 5th grade at my catholic school. they flipped out on it due to the ruckus it caused at school. they had no policy stating i couldnt have it,

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Dawson, Michael
Thanks for the suggestion. Hell, my kids live in Hot Topic. That's a good idea. M!ke -Original Message- From: Tim Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:03 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Fight-back Friday Not after a week man. They close up fast as

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Jillian Koskie
Well what are you doin' this weekend? ;) >Personally, ear piercings, on chicks, are about it for me. Anything >else seems to ruin the package. Of course, I haven't yet seen Jillian's >nether-region... > >M!ke ~| Message: http:/

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Jillian Koskie
t of inspection they would be. >We will ask about the retainer. I had not heard about those. So, >basically, is it a little tube or solid plug? > >M!ke > >-Original Message- >From: Jillian Koskie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 8:44 AM >

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Dawson, Michael
t yet seen Jillian's nether-region... M!ke -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 10:05 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Fight-back Friday See, I would have to nicely disagree. I find facial piercing (and truthfully all pierci

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Dawson, Michael
unity Subject: Re: Fight-back Friday I may have a unique perspective, given that I (obviously) enjoy piercings. Some of my girlfriends and my sister have their nose pierced and it's very tasteful and understated --and on them it looks quite pretty. It's also very mainstream. Are they going

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Scott Stewart
ommunity Subject: Re: Fight-back Friday +1 If you do decide to fight it though, you'll need to make sure you aren't doing more harm than good. It's important to fight injustice and stupid bullsh*t like thisbut your daughter getting a good education is priority numero uno. If

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Charlie Griefer
er, many have had their piercings much longer than my > daughter, yet they still have them. > > M!ke > > -Original Message- > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:19 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Fight-back Friday &g

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Dawson, Michael
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:27 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Fight-back Friday Mike, What do the official school policies say about piercings? I went to a catholic school my entire life and piercings in any other place but the ears was not allowed. In fact, guys couldn't have piercings eve

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Tim Heald
there. > -Original Message- > From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:58 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Fight-back Friday > > Unfortunately, this is the only high school within a > reasonable distance for her to atten

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Dawson, Michael
Fight-back Friday +1 If you do decide to fight it though, you'll need to make sure you aren't doing more harm than good. It's important to fight injustice and stupid bullsh*t like thisbut your daughter getting a good education is priority numero uno. If that means chan

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Dawson, Michael
Yeah, definitely, there would be some ill feelings towards her from the parties involved. It's a small town where grudges are held. M!ke -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:21 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Fight

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Dawson, Michael
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:19 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Fight-back Friday I don't get it...if there are other kids with similar piercings, were they all suspended as well? is there a written regula

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Sam
Tongue warts On 1/20/06, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > dude! those are cold sores! > > On 1/20/06, Ray Champagne wrote: > > > Christ I have had my septum, both nostrils, eyebrow, labret, tongue > > > nipples > > > and the web between my thumb and pointer fingers pierced at different > > > times.

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Jillian Koskie
Only... they don't happen on your tongue. >dude! those are cold sores! > >On 1/20/06, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Christ I have had my septum, both nostrils, eyebrow, labret, tongue nipples >> > and the web between my thumb and pointer fingers pierced at different >> > times. >

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
dude! those are cold sores! On 1/20/06, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Christ I have had my septum, both nostrils, eyebrow, labret, tongue nipples > > and the web between my thumb and pointer fingers pierced at different times. > > > > tongue nipples are the BEST > > > ~~~

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Tim The ACLU cannot be selective on whose rights to defend. If [insert nasty and obnoxious group's name here] rights are not protected, then your rights are not either. By saying only certain groups rights are to be protected, what about other groups or persons. Its either all or it will be nothin

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Jillian Koskie
I only wish I had tongue nipples so I could pierce them too! >> Christ I have had my septum, both nostrils, eyebrow, labret, tongue nipples >> and the web between my thumb and pointer fingers pierced at different times. >> > >tongue nipples are the BEST ~~

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread G
>I had this one when my son dyed his hair green. I told the school that he >had dyed his hair with my permission, that there was nothing to discuss and >that if they objected to green hair they should put this in the dress code. Just about every dress code has a snippet in it that forbids any dr

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Tim Heald
That's freaking horrible. WTF is wrong with this country. > -Original Message- > From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:02 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Fight-back Friday > > It isn't just your school

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Tim Heald
+1 > -Original Message- > From: Jillian Koskie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 10:50 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Fight-back Friday > > And that's totally cool... some people prefer blondes or > women with short hair or l

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Charlie Griefer
heh. I'm actually with Jerry on this. With the exception of (a managable number of ) ear piercings...pretty much any other piercing doesn't do it for me. And yeah, I don't begrudge anybody the option to do whatever they want with their body. If it doesn't affect the cost of my beer, I couldn't

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Tim Heald
on't think that this should be protected speech. It is not political speech, is its violent speech. > -Original Message- > From: Chesty Puller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:07 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Fight-back Friday >

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread dana tierney
> The rub is that the woman didn't even get fired. yes, exactly. I followed this story too. Dana ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:193518 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Ray Champagne
> Christ I have had my septum, both nostrils, eyebrow, labret, tongue nipples > and the web between my thumb and pointer fingers pierced at different times. > tongue nipples are the BEST ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread dana tierney
I have come to understand that schools are messed up and will remain messed up. Meanwhile, I have children to raise. I don't think probem A should be allowed to interfere with problem B. You may think it's running away but I guarantee you that even if they eventually decide Mike's daughter can h

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Tim Heald
x27;t like them, is that the message you want to send to your daughter? Submit or be punished, normalize or be ostracized? I'd fight it. > -Original Message- > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:05 AM > To: CF-Community >

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread dana tierney
I had this one when my son dyed his hair green. I told the school that he had dyed his hair with my permission, that there was nothing to discuss and that if they objected to green hair they should put this in the dress code. of course, they had not sent him home or suspended him over it. Perso

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Tim Heald
CF-Community > Subject: Fight-back Friday > > MT's Verizon post got me fired up again... > > On my way to work, my wife called and said she had received a > call from the high school that my oldest daughter (16) attends. > > They suspended her for having a nose pierci

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Ray Champagne
so run away from the problem? what happens to the next kid who's parents don't care as much as Mike and his wife? While I'm not surprised that you are touting home schooling, I'm surprised that you're willing to just walk away from the problem. doesn't sound like you at all. dana tierney wro

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread dana tierney
home school Seriously, I can put you in touch with an Indianan support group if you are interested. Dana >MT's Verizon post got me fired up again... > >On my way to work, my wife called and said she had received a call from >the high school that my oldest daughter (16) attends. > >They suspen

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Robert Munn
tt A. Stewart >ColdFusion Developer > >GNSI >11820 Parklawn Dr >Rockville, MD 20852 >(301) 770-9610 > >-Original Message- >From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:02 AM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: Fight-back

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Scott Stewart
: Fight-back Friday It isn't just your school system, but that decision does sound completely retarded. I would fight it, but that's just me. I like the idea of covering it with a bandage. And definitely contact the ACLU. There was a huge story here in San Diego a few years ago about this

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Robert Munn
It isn't just your school system, but that decision does sound completely retarded. I would fight it, but that's just me. I like the idea of covering it with a bandage. And definitely contact the ACLU. There was a huge story here in San Diego a few years ago about this assistant principal at a

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Jerry Johnson
Oh, God no. Thankfully, each person has their own rights, and their own preferences. I am often thankful for that, since I don't exactly look like Johnny Depp or Brad Pitt. My father always hated my clothes and my hair (suburban punk in the early 80s. Liberty spikes on the weekends, "long" hair th

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Jillian Koskie
And that's totally cool... some people prefer blondes or women with short hair or love a woman in glasses. It's all about preference. It would be my hope though, that you wouldn't begrudge those individuals having these things that are outside of your preferences. I guess I just see this sort

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Chesty Puller
Yeah, the ACLU is just there for effect. The rules must be enforced fairly. - Matt - Original Message - From: "G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:11 AM Subject: Re: Fight-back Friday > Right, which is why i do

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread G
Right, which is why i don't see any need for the ACLU. But it is important that if there is a rule on the books, it is getting enforced fairly. Seems like she's been unfairly singled out. (unless no other person in the school has a nose piercing? I guess we don't really have all those facts)

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Jerry Johnson
See, I would have to nicely disagree. I find facial piercing (and truthfully all piercings) completely unattractive. I so far haven't dated a girl with extra piercings (except for two weeks in 1983 with a girl with a pierced tongue, but then I sobered up), and I doubt I ever will. The same holds

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Kevin Schmidt
So get her a nose ring that's a peace symbol, or one that say's "No blood for oil" Her teachers would probably love her then! -Original Message- From: Chesty Puller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:39 AM To: CF-Community Subject: R

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Chesty Puller
Actually, the Supreme Court says that schools can regulate clothing and hair, but not forms of political expression. - Matt - Original Message - From: "Jillian Koskie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:43 AM Subject:

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Jillian Koskie
I may have a unique perspective, given that I (obviously) enjoy piercings. Some of my girlfriends and my sister have their nose pierced and it's very tasteful and understated --and on them it looks quite pretty. It's also very mainstream. Are they going to kick out the kids with highlights in

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Chesty Puller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 1) You should have your daughter remove it out of respect > for the authority of the school system > 2) You should have your daughter write down names of other > students with nose and/or other non-standard iercings, just before you > 3) Have a

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Scott Stewart
) 770-9610 -Original Message- From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 10:11 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Fight-back Friday MT's Verizon post got me fired up again... On my way to work, my wife called and said she had received a call from the high

RE: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
Mike, What do the official school policies say about piercings? I went to a catholic school my entire life and piercings in any other place but the ears was not allowed. In fact, guys couldn't have piercings even in their ears. That was based on a policy that was documented, etc. However, I had th

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Chesty Puller
other students with said piercings and notify him that 4) You have a meeting with the Indianapolis chapter of the ACLU the next day. - Matt - Original Message - From: "Charlie Griefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 10:18

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread G
+1 If you do decide to fight it though, you'll need to make sure you aren't doing more harm than good. It's important to fight injustice and stupid bullsh*t like thisbut your daughter getting a good education is priority numero uno. If that means changing schools...do it. > I'd fight it.

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'd fight it. It sounds like an arbitrary decision based on one teacher's attitude. But you may also want to look at getting her into another school if possible. I wouldn't be surprised that if you win the case, either at the supervisor or schoolboard level, I would not put it past the principal a

Re: Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Charlie Griefer
I don't get it...if there are other kids with similar piercings, were they all suspended as well? is there a written regulation about piercings? On 1/20/06, Dawson, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MT's Verizon post got me fired up again... > > On my way to work, my wife called and said she h

Fight-back Friday

2006-01-20 Thread Dawson, Michael
MT's Verizon post got me fired up again... On my way to work, my wife called and said she had received a call from the high school that my oldest daughter (16) attends. They suspended her for having a nose piercing. Around Xmas, she spent $70 of her own money to get a tiny stud in one of her n