RE: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
The Israelis are and have been stating thatover and over again. Eric -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 9:45 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel... Gel. Stop

Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-02 Thread Scott Stewart
Our little Gelly is growing up G's got a point.. if there was a little less adovcation of the devil... On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:20 PM, G Money wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Vivec wrote: > >> >> Are you accusing me of mounting a Straw Man argument where the >> situation inside Ga

Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-02 Thread Sam
Oh yeah, that was a lot of fun On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:20 PM, G Money wrote: > > It's a cold day in hell when I compliment Gelso man...it must be snowing > down south! > > if more people on this list admitted to doing this, like Gel just did, we'd > have much better discussions. ~

Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-02 Thread G Money
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Vivec wrote: > > Are you accusing me of mounting a Straw Man argument where the > situation inside Gaza is concerned?? > Are you!? > ... > ... > ... > ... > well I was. > :-) > > okies I will stop now. > It's a cold day in hell when I compliment Gelso man...i

Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-02 Thread Vivec
Are you accusing me of mounting a Straw Man argument where the situation inside Gaza is concerned?? Are you!? ... ... ... ... well I was. :-) okies I will stop now. ^_^ On 2 June 2010 10:44, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > Gel. Stop already. NO ONE IS SAYING THINGS ARE FINE IN GAZA! > Not a single

Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
You refuse to admit that there is any Jewish claim to the land. You refuse to recognise that there has been a Jewish presence in the land for thousands of years. You refuse to allow for any Jewish ownership of land in the area before or after the creation of Israel. Jews are NOT only from eastern

Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Gel. Stop already. NO ONE IS SAYING THINGS ARE FINE IN GAZA! Not a single person. What is being said is that there is no humanitarian disaster. Repeating the argument that someone is saying something that they are not will not make the action true. No one is saying it. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 6:29

Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
> Has Israel ever accepted a Palestinian State? Yes. That is what the negotiations are all about. > In 2009 Biden made the statement that Israel must accept a Palestinian state. > In fact this year Israel refused to stop building new settlements as > requested by the UN and its major ally the US.

Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
: > > Yeah.. but the Euros came in and took it from the original owners in the > 1500's > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 7:22 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Hamas has never r

RE: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-02 Thread Scott Stewart
Yeah.. but the Euros came in and took it from the original owners in the 1500's -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 7:22 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel... No idea,

Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-01 Thread William Bowen
> No idea, but a bunch of obnoxious rebels took our land around 1780 or so. Yeah! Rebels! Wo! -(Something, Something, Something Dark Side) -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher

Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-01 Thread Larry C. Lyons
essage- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:02 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel... > > > perhaps we should also ask has the Palestinians and the rest of the > Arab world eve

Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-01 Thread Vivec
Therefore the reason is that things are bad within the country. How does that match with Israel saying things are fine inside Gaza in response to the plethora of expressions of concern and worrying report by various International groups? The two don't quite belong togetherThe Need to Receive

RE: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-01 Thread Eric Roberts
Would you accept your land taken from you and given to a bunch of foreigners from eastern Europe? Probably not. Eric -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:02 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Hamas has never renounced

Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-01 Thread G Money
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Why do places and countries need Aid? > Generally speaking, countries in the middle east need aid because decades of mismanagement, exploitation of religious zealotry, and just plain stupidity...have given rise to terrible conditions and extreme

Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-01 Thread Larry C. Lyons
perhaps we should also ask has the Palestinians and the rest of the Arab world ever accepted Israel? On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Was the point raised during the last discussion. > > Has Israel ever accepted a Palestinian State? > > In 2009 Biden made the statement that Israe

Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-01 Thread Vivec
Was the point raised during the last discussion. Has Israel ever accepted a Palestinian State? In 2009 Biden made the statement that Israel must accept a Palestinian state. In fact this year Israel refused to stop building new settlements as requested by the UN and its major ally the US. So to