On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Sam wrote:
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> Congress to work with. Republicans nonetheless managed to keep their
> Members together, turn public opinion against the bill despite nearly
> unanimous media support for it, and in the end came a few votes short.
What utter non-sense.
...
> ris
Speaking of Frum:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704117304575138071192342664.html
In Washington, political defeats always produce finger-pointing, so
the conventional wisdom has suddenly turned on a dime and decided that
Republicans were wrong to have opposed ObamaCare. White Hous
I have never been under the delusion that I am 'normal folk'
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Sam wrote:
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> Interesting, when Bush had a $200 billion deficit you normal folk were
> in an uproar. Now that Obama has hocked our country to the tune of $4
> trillion in a little over a year for no jo
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_111309/content/01125115.guest.html
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Vivec wrote:
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> What's so special about costa Rica?
>
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Interesting, when Bush had a $200 billion deficit you normal folk were
in an uproar. Now that Obama has hocked our country to the tune of $4
trillion in a little over a year for no jobs and little health care
benefit, you so-called normal folk call anyone that questions it the
fringe nutters.
I'm
Friend of mine in Revelstoke BC did tell me that after 2004 a lot of
Americans bought these huge houses in the middle of the Cascades near
town. So hey why not.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> That has as much likelihood of happening as all the 'celebrities' who
> threate
and jeasus forgives you sam.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Sam wrote:
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> You are a true peace of shit to think you are better than what you
> refer to as accidents of birth. It's assholes like you that give my
> country a bad name.
>
> Just remember, the reason you like this country so much
>Actually that was Scott.
You all should do what I do and just read and reply to the list online. Since
it marks everyone *private* and hardly anyone signs their posts, I usually have
no idea who I'm replying to. Makes it more interesting in some ways.
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It's rich and has a coast?
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Vivec wrote:
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> What's so special about costa Rica?
>
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Nto so much the propaganda, but the vocal minority that is way, way
out on the right. :D
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Sam wrote:
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> They still do, you're just reading the propaganda
>
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Vivec wrote:
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>> "We followed the most radical voices in the party an
A bit odd how I started getting spam from myself a couple of days
after you asked me to help you with an important problem off list and
then never responded. Coincidence I'm sure.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Dana wrote:
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> who knows what Sam is thinking. Google has decided that he is spam
We determined last year on this list she could have received insulin
so adding a new way to get it doesn't help someone that can put forth
the effort to find it.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Vivec wrote:
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> She wouldn't have been able to get the insulin under this bill?
>
> On 22 March 201
1. two coasts = good surfing year round
2. stable democracy
3. decent economy
I would check out T & T, but you keep going on about how dangerous it is :-(
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Vivec wrote:
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> What's so special about costa Rica?
~
who knows what Sam is thinking. Google has decided that he is spam and
I agree so I have not argued the point. Perhaps his point is that some
provisions don't take effect immediately. That's a problem, but at
least they take effect eventually, and eventually we come to a place
where this will not
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The wars have cost us in people- injuries, deaths, trauma. That's the
big cost of the war to Americans. Money-wise, we've spent almost a
trillion dollars so far:
http://costofwar.com/
Throw in the wild-eyed multi-trillion dollars estimates if you like.
Say $5 trillion. It is still a discrete cos
She wouldn't have been able to get the insulin under this bill?
On 22 March 2010 17:17, Sam wrote:
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> Sorry but this bill wouldn't have saved her either.
>
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Sorry but this bill wouldn't have saved her either.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Dana wrote:
>> Look at my friend Cathi, who died for lack of an insulin supply. I
> *know* she was in the hospital four or five times for a diabetic come,
> and I suspect more. How much more than then insulin di
They still do, you're just reading the propaganda
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Vivec wrote:
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> "We followed the most radical voices in the party and the movement, and they
> led us to abject and irreversible defeat.
>
> There were leaders who knew better, who would have liked to deal. But t
When did you get to make the rules?
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Dana wrote:
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> Robert, I love you and all, but your support for the Bush wars removes
> any moral authority you may have had to complain about deficits.
> Sorry.
~~
I think I understand it better than you. That's what I tihink
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> That is basically what I was getting at Sam. If you think its the
> greatest thing to ever happen or if you think the country as we know
> it is over, well, then you don't unders
I agree. I kind of unplugged from the process a while back because I
found it distasteful, but yet. I think we needed to have something
pass, and for the sky not to fall. I am cautiously hopeful. Washington
has a way of pulling clouds out of silver lining, but it has still
initiated programs that
> Yeah, and I thought that was all taken out of context
> anyways. He said he'd go out of the country for
> heathcare, not leave it entirely.
For those that want to hear it, Huffington Post has the original full audio
clip
(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/09/limbaugh-ill-leave-us-if_n_4915
Yeah, and I thought that was all taken out of context anyways. He said he'd
go out of the country for heathcare, not leave it entirely.
Can't stand the man's viewpoints, but this is just another example of the
crazy way things get polarized nowadays. So sick of that stuff.
On Mon, Mar 22, 20
That has as much likelihood of happening as all the 'celebrities' who
threatened to leave if Bush won a second term.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Vivec wrote:
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> Hey..didn't Rush Limbaugh say he was leaving the country if the healthcare
> reform passed?
>
>
>
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reform passed?
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"We followed the most radical voices in the party and the movement, and they
led us to abject and irreversible defeat.
There were leaders who knew better, who would have liked to deal. But they
were trapped. Conservative talkers on Fox and talk radio had whipped the
Republican voting base into su
Robert, I love you and all, but your support for the Bush wars removes
any moral authority you may have had to complain about deficits.
Sorry.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
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> No one really knows what this bill is going to do. Do seniors
> understand that it might mean the
*shivers in corner*
sam is scaring mes...
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On 22 March 2010 16:19, Sam wrote:
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That is basically what I was getting at Sam. If you think its the
greatest thing to ever happen or if you think the country as we know
it is over, well, then you don't understand what just happened.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Sam wrote:
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> Maybe it's the idiotic douche bags that don't und
Actually that was Scott.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> pot meet kettle.
>
> I wasn't the one who started off by using the phrase "idiotic douche bags"
>
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Sam wrote:
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>> Why do you always take the lowest road. Nothing you say is ev
pot meet kettle.
I wasn't the one who started off by using the phrase "idiotic douche bags"
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Sam wrote:
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> Why do you always take the lowest road. Nothing you say is even true
>
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>>
>> yes right. Only in y
You are a true peace of shit to think you are better than what you
refer to as accidents of birth. It's assholes like you that give my
country a bad name.
Just remember, the reason you like this country so much is because all
us accidents of birth make it great. Otherwise you'd still be in
Canada
Every one wants health care reform, we just don;t want this one.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
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> The question of whether a majority of Americans opposed it depends on
> how you ask the question. When polled on their support of the items it
> contains, people were overwh
Why do you always take the lowest road. Nothing you say is even true
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
> yes right. Only in your dreams. If you think its so bad why not follow
> your fearless leader Limpblob - who has stated he will move to Costa
> Rica. Interestingly enou
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
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> The CBO numbers aren't cooked. They are based on the bill as written.
> However, I agree with critics who say that some things that are in
> there, like decreases in Medicare payments in future years, as
> unlikely to go through in reality
I wonder how they would compare against standard treatments, or
different psychological treatments for chronic pain control.
Personally I think that any new drug should be shown to be
significantly better than currently existing treatments before being
accepted.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:17 PM, R
Judah,
You may want to talk with a psychologist that specializes in pain.
There are a lot of new methods and techniques available that are very
effective in reducing chronic pain. And by and large its covered by
insurance.
larry
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
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> Unfortu
It has a lot more credibility than your heros, Beck and Limpblob.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Sam wrote:
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> That was a very scientific study, thanks for all of those the valuable facts.
>
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Larry C. Lyons
> wrote:
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>> I see you consider 45,000 American
Try again. I am here legally and am married to a US citizen, and the
father of another. I probably have a better right to be here than
most. I chose to be in the US, rather I was asked to come here. It was
my decision to stay and make a good life here. Not like many who are
here just because of an
Regrettably, he recanted the next day, saying he meant to say he'd go to
Costa Rica for health care.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
> yes right. Only in your dreams. If you think its so bad why not follow
> your fearless leader Limpblob - who has stated he will move to
The question of whether a majority of Americans opposed it depends on
how you ask the question. When polled on their support of the items it
contains, people were overwhelmingly for all of them.
That tends to be true of most polling however. People like the ideas
but don't care for the process. A
a perfect example of the decline of reasoned discourse in this country.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Sam wrote:
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> Maybe it's the idiotic douche bags that don't understand the
> ramifications of what just happened.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>>
>> Agreed Just
yes right. Only in your dreams. If you think its so bad why not follow
your fearless leader Limpblob - who has stated he will move to Costa
Rica. Interestingly enough it has national health care.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Sam wrote:
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> It's not health care reform, it's a take over of ins
And a majority of Americans oppose it yet only the Republicans listened.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
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>
> More than a couple of Democrats voted against it too.
>
>
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On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Sam wrote:
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> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
>>
>> I, and others, disagree that it will mean the effective end of
>> Medicare coverage. That includes the AMA which endorsed the measure
>> and certainly has a track record of not supporting
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
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> It is 32 million, not 12 million,
Only 12 million want it but can't afford it.
> and the bill costs 900 million over
> 10 years, not 2 trillion, and is forecast to reduce the deficit, not
> increase it.
I'm talking about real costs not p
Put your blinders back on, nothing to see here
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Mary Jo Sminkey wrote:
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>> These elections will allow us to save America from a leftwing machine
>> of unparalleled corruption arrogance and cynicism
>
> Thank you Glenn Beck.
>
> We now return to our regularly sch
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Vivec wrote:
> Ultimately this means less Americans will die due to not being able to
> afford health care.
This remains to be seen, actually.
> I still don't understand why this was such a hard fight
> to have passed, the principle seems obvious.
Because in Am
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
>
> I, and others, disagree that it will mean the effective end of
> Medicare coverage. That includes the AMA which endorsed the measure
> and certainly has a track record of not supporting efforts that would
> make it so that doctors wouldn't
It is 32 million, not 12 million, and the bill costs 900 million over
10 years, not 2 trillion, and is forecast to reduce the deficit, not
increase it.
And the GOP did not try and fix Social Security, they tried to eliminate it.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> Nope, When the GO
Oh, I completely agree on the research issue. And there is a wide
variety of cannabis that has drastically different physiological
effects. I know for myself, for instance, back when I did consume,
that I was much more "functional" on sativas than indicas. I've
thought about getting a card here in
> These elections will allow us to save America from a leftwing machine
> of unparalleled corruption arrogance and cynicism
Thank you Glenn Beck.
We now return to our regularly scheduled programming.
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Nope, When the GOP tried to fix it we were told it wasn't a problem.
Now add two trillion for health care for 12 million people.
The war was bi-partition.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:10 PM, denstar wrote:
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> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Sam wrote:
>>
>> You do realize we can't pay social sec
Have you looked at research on the topic of chronic pain treatment
using cannabinoids?
Take a look at this paper:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2503660/
There is promise in both marijuana and marijuana-derived treatments
like Sativex. An important caveat- some research has demonst
That would depend on what you mean by "much longer". The current
projections have it solvent through 2037 on the short side or 2041 on
the long side. Of course, we definitely need to fix it, but it isn't
like the fund will go to insolvency next year or something. And,
curiously enough, there are p
I, and others, disagree that it will mean the effective end of
Medicare coverage. That includes the AMA which endorsed the measure
and certainly has a track record of not supporting efforts that would
make it so that doctors wouldn't be able to see their Medicare
patients.
And yes, I do believe t
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Sam wrote:
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> You do realize we can't pay social security much longer?
Hasn't that been the case for freaking years?
Whyfore is it fine to run on debt for War, but not for Health?
:den
--
It is hard to contend against one's heart's desire; for whatever it
wis
You do realize we can't pay social security much longer?
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
>
> I have so-so feelings about the bill itself. I don't think it goes far
> enough in a number of areas (malpractice reform amongst them) and I'm
> unhappy about the promised executive
No one really knows what this bill is going to do. Do seniors
understand that it might mean the effective end of Medicare coverage?
After all, what good is Medicare if you can't find a doctor that will
accept it? Do young people understand that they will bear the cost of
enacting this bill by bein
Unfortunately marijuana doesn't help me with chronic pain in a way
that is useful. It might help in the short term but I can't really do
much else functionally, so I'm stuck with tylenol and ibuprofen and
pharmaceuticals that help alleviate my symptoms while still enabling
me to work productively,
That was a very scientific study, thanks for all of those the valuable facts.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> I see you consider 45,000 Americans are very few.
> (http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/09/18/deaths.health.insurance/).
>
> That is a very callous attitude, it g
I have so-so feelings about the bill itself. I don't think it goes far
enough in a number of areas (malpractice reform amongst them) and I'm
unhappy about the promised executive order on federal funding of
abortion. And I'm not going to count my eggs until the Senate actually
passes the reconcilia
oh, and unlike pretty much every over the counter drug in your
medicine cabinet, you can't overdose and die from marijuana.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Robert Munn wrote:
> If you live in California or a number of other states you can get a
> doctor's recommendation for medical marijuana,
If you live in California or a number of other states you can get a
doctor's recommendation for medical marijuana, and in some of those
states you can grow your own, meaning you have a very low cost
medicine available to you for any number of ailments, including
chronic pain.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> It's not health care reform, it's a take over of insurance companyies
> Chavez style. Did you learn nothing about this process?
>
> Gingrich said it well:
Rabble rabble rabble!
Entertainment! Yay! That's what /really/ matters, right?
:den
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I'm betting it is
>>
>> Maybe it's the idiotic douche bags that don't understand the
>> ramifications of what just happened.
>>
>
> Maybe!
>
> But..uh...probably not.
>
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On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> Maybe it's the idiotic douche bags that don't understand the
> ramifications of what just happened.
>
Maybe!
But..uh...probably not.
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On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> If we're lucky...
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Maybe it's the idiotic douche bags that don't understand the
ramifications of what just happened.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> Agreed Justin. I do not look at this like it is the greatest thing
> that has ever happend, nor do I view it as the end of our country as
> w
>I'm cautiously optimistic about health insurance reform. There are some
>parts that I like and some that I don't like. I hear people talk about this
>like it's the end of the world though. To those I would simply say this:
>life will go on.
Yup, exactly. It certainly is myopic to think that
It's not health care reform, it's a take over of insurance companyies
Chavez style. Did you learn nothing about this process?
Gingrich said it well:
This will not stand.
No one should be confused about the outcome of Sunday's vote
This is not the end of the fight it is the beginning of the fig
The country was just hocked, our status as a world leader ended last
night. We weak and bankrupt. We might as well join the EU now, if
they'll take us.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Justin Scott
wrote:
>
> I'm cautiously optimistic about health insurance reform. There are some
> parts that
If we're lucky...
Actually I think that this bill will make this country far more
competitive. Fewer corporations will have the incentive to leave the
country because of insurance. A great example is the recent shutdown
of the last sardine cannery in the US
(http://www.npr.org/templates/story/sto
> Actually it's way off mark, kind of stupid actually, but I don't want
> to talk about it while mourning the end of the greatest country ever
Wow, well anyone that thinks passing health care reform is the "end" has
already bought into the far right rhetoric too much to see clearly. Anyone that
Agreed Justin. I do not look at this like it is the greatest thing
that has ever happend, nor do I view it as the end of our country as
we knew it. (only the idiotic douche bags on the far ends of the
political spectrum would think either of those).
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Justin Scott
> Oh, and the huge profit that hospital corporation
> paid to their shareholders.
The moral of the story: Buy stock in hospitals and drug companies and hope
that the dividends earned will cover your health expenses. ;)
-Justin
And exactly how does that justify fair market value? Iam not sure if
you are trying to refute my point or support it.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> You weren't paying 30 dollars a dose for Motrin, you were paying the
> salary of the nurse who gave the pills, the pharmacist
> Actually it's way off mark, kind of stupid actually,
> but I don't want to talk about it while mourning the
> end of the greatest country ever :(
I'm cautiously optimistic about health insurance reform. There are some
parts that I like and some that I don't like. I hear people talk about this
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> Actually it's way off mark, kind of stupid actually, but I don't want
> to talk about it while mourning the end of the greatest country ever
> :(
>
>
You gonna move out of the country?!?!?!
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You weren't paying 30 dollars a dose for Motrin, you were paying the
salary of the nurse who gave the pills, the pharmacist who dispensed
them, and the storage of them in the hospital. Oh, and the huge
profit that hospital corporation paid to their shareholders.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:06 AM,
Actually it's way off mark, kind of stupid actually, but I don't want
to talk about it while mourning the end of the greatest country ever
:(
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Mary Jo Sminkey wrote:
>
>> Here's an interesting commentary by a Conservative pundit about the
>> meaning of the reform
Well it doesn't hurt that David Frum is from Canada.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Mary Jo Sminkey wrote:
>
>> Here's an interesting commentary by a Conservative pundit about the
>> meaning of the reform bill being passed:
>
> Wow, that is so spot-on. It'd really be nice to see if more conser
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:27 AM, G Money wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Vivec wrote:
>
> >
> > Ultimately this means less Americans will die due to not being able to
> > afford health care.
>
>
> Very few Americans die because they can't afford health care.
>
>
And you know this ho
> Here's an interesting commentary by a Conservative pundit about the
> meaning of the reform bill being passed:
Wow, that is so spot-on. It'd really be nice to see if more conservatives see
that the news channels are not necessarily helping the party, but are actually
finding ways to hurt it b
Here's an interesting commentary by a Conservative pundit about the
meaning of the reform bill being passed:
http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2010/03/22/david-frum-obama-hands-republicans-their-waterloo.aspx
David Frum: Obama hands Republicans their Waterloo
Posted: M
It was more like having my kid hear all that racist crap etc. At this
point I sincerely hope that those neo-fascists crawl back under the
rocks or trailer parks where they came from and not bother civilized
people again.
What I was really disgusted with were all those Republican congress
critters
I think that there are a lot of frivolous malpractice lawsuits. I
agree there is a need or malpractice, but I think it is abused. I
think that abuse is the single largest reason for the expense of
healthcare.
Right now, the way healthcare costs are determined is not
capitalistic. Doctors and hosp
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
> You mean aside from getting harassed by some teabaggers on Saturday
> when I was talking my daughter to the Smithsonian Museum of Natural
> History? Other than that OK.
>
Sounds like a good learning experience."Honey, those are what
You mean aside from getting harassed by some teabaggers on Saturday
when I was talking my daughter to the Smithsonian Museum of Natural
History? Other than that OK.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:33 AM, G Money wrote:
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> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
>>
>> I see you consi
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
> I see you consider 45,000 Americans are very few.
> (http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/09/18/deaths.health.insurance/).
>
> That is a very callous attitude, it goes with the me first and screw
> you attitude many on the right appear to have.
*reads*
*re-reads*
*humph*
well okies then.
On 22 March 2010 10:10, G Money wrote:
>
> You inferred, i did NOT imply.
>
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I see you consider 45,000 Americans are very few.
(http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/09/18/deaths.health.insurance/).
That is a very callous attitude, it goes with the me first and screw
you attitude many on the right appear to have.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:27 AM, G Money wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Vivec wrote:
>
> Well, you asked what's wrong with working for benefits, implying that there
> is something wrong with people who do not want to work or cannot work (and
> in this case Work Extra, a totally separate job).
>
You inferred, i did NOT imply.
--
We
But it is still good that more people are covered now.
And I doubt you will see the type of reform you want.
Won't that be totally anti-capitalist to pre-determine the price of drugs to
hospitals and practitioners?
And how can you limit malpractice suits. If the offense is serious enough a
perso
Wow..great...wonderful.
A healthcare reform bill that, in my opinion, has no hope of actually
reforming healthcare. Yes, it does address some issues for people who
do not have insurance, but that is not healthcare reform, its health
insurance reform - big difference there.
It will still cost
Well, you asked what's wrong with working for benefits, implying that there
is something wrong with people who do not want to work or cannot work (and
in this case Work Extra, a totally separate job).
I used other countries with Healthcare programs, because that's what we are
talking about, as ex
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Vivec wrote:
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> For example, what statistics is one relying upon to make the statement that
> people in Canada, Switzerland, New Zealand, Britain,and Belgium who benefit
> from healthcare do not want to work, or are less productive than their
> American counterp
There's nothing wrong with working for benefits.
But for something as basic as healthcare there is a net negative
socio-economic effect.
For example, what statistics is one relying upon to make the statement that
people in Canada, Switzerland, New Zealand, Britain,and Belgium who benefit
from hea
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Vivec wrote:
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> Ultimately this means less Americans will die due to not being able to
> afford health care.
Very few Americans die because they can't afford health care.
> I still don't understand why this was such a hard fight
> to have passed, the princip
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