Re: Hillary Pushes for new voting laws

2005-02-18 Thread Dana
I think that's what they want us to think. I have seen allegations that many of the names that were "scrubbed" were not even felons but WERE disproportionately black. Also, considering that blacks caught with crack are more often given felony convictions than whites caught with crack (for instance

Re: Hillary Pushes for new voting laws

2005-02-18 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Larry C. Lyons wrote: > Explain the 26th (allowing 18 year olds to vote) the 14th (involving > voting within states) or the 13th (slavery) amendments then. And how > these violate the constitution. They all prevent the states from doing > certain things. The Constitution is written on an exclusio

Re: Hillary Pushes for new voting laws

2005-02-18 Thread Dana
really. I seriously thing *someone* needs to do something about voting conditions, and it seems as though the effort is being made to trivialize this effort by emphasizing the felons' rights issues. Which can be seen as a civil rights issue, btw -- look what happened in Florida. Dana On Fri, 18

Re: Hillary Pushes for new voting laws

2005-02-18 Thread Kevin Graeme
BTW, both of those links are at the National Constitution Center: http://www.constitutioncenter.org It's a non-partisan organization established by Congress (during Reagan) to educate people about the Constitution. -Kevin On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:53:47 -0600, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: Hillary Pushes for new voting laws

2005-02-18 Thread Kevin Graeme
Here is an article about the viewpoint that the Constitution has no power to prevent States from barring felons: http://tinyurl.com/6amch Here is a counter-viewpoint that it is disenfranchisement: http://tinyurl.com/4bxtn My personal feelings a somewhat split on this issue. I like the idea of kee

Re: Hillary Pushes for new voting laws

2005-02-18 Thread Adam Haskell
I love how the article emphasizes on the ex-felons voting yet barely mention the 500 million dollars for states to improve their voting systems/equipment and require paper receipts for voting, which to me are the 2 most important things of this bill. Instead the media picks up on holidays and ex-fe

Re: Hillary Pushes for new voting laws

2005-02-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Explain the 26th (allowing 18 year olds to vote) the 14th (involving voting within states) or the 13th (slavery) amendments then. And how these violate the constitution. They all prevent the states from doing certain things. larry On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:02:20 -0600, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Hillary Pushes for new voting laws

2005-02-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Where in the Constitution does it say that allowing people who have served their time should not be allowed to vote. Or are you referring to making the federal voting day a national holiday? Neither seems to be unconstitutional, or are you just objecting to Senator Clinton sponsorship? I cannot s

RE: Hillary Pushes for new voting laws

2005-02-17 Thread Nick McClure
Well, and if she would like to make a national change she needs to propose it as an amendment, not via normal legislation. -Original Message- From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:21 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Hillary Pushes for new

Re: Hillary Pushes for new voting laws

2005-02-17 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Jerry Johnson wrote: > What is not Constitutional about allow felons to vote? Voting laws are up to the individual states, as mentioned in this article- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9785-2004Aug17.html "Under various state laws, they are barred from voting because they have fe

Re: Hillary Pushes for new voting laws

2005-02-17 Thread Kevin Graeme
The gist is that the Constitution's authority is limited and can't prevent the States from making this decision. -Kevin On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:00:03 -0500, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is not Constitutional about allow felons to vote? > > Jerry Johnson > Web Developer > Dolan

Re: Hillary Pushes for new voting laws

2005-02-17 Thread Jerry Johnson
What is not Constitutional about allow felons to vote? Jerry Johnson Web Developer Dolan Media Company >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/17/05 08:47PM >>> http://www.wstm.com/Global/story.asp?S=2965015 One of the things here that upsets me isn't the goal of the law, it is that the law is not Constitu

Hillary Pushes for new voting laws

2005-02-17 Thread Nick McClure
http://www.wstm.com/Global/story.asp?S=2965015 One of the things here that upsets me isn't the goal of the law, it is that the law is not Constitutional. I'm speaking of the law allowing individuals that have served their time to vote. While I'm not against this, I am against wasting time t