Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-08 Thread Deanna Schneider
I wondered if she was your cat. She is beautiful. On Jan 7, 2008 9:38 PM, Sean Corfield wrote: > How funny that our cat is the top hit, even above what she is named after :) > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most impor

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Sean Corfield
How funny that our cat is the top hit, even above what she is named after :) On 1/7/08, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > fwiw, google is fast as fuck. > > i just googled, "Oshun Sekese" > and this came up > > http://www.google.com/search?q=Oshun+Sekese&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Larry Lyons
> Larry Lyons wrote > >> The problem is that most of them not only object to such classes > being offered to their kids, but to anyone else's kids as well. I've > seen it multiple times with other courses (ie., sex ed for one). > >> > My answer to that is that they need to pay more attention

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Larry Lyons
>Yeah, NOVA really hoses up the political system in the state. > It is the richest part of the state, and the most dynamic. If NOVA separated from the rest of the state, Northern Virginia would be the 3rd richest state in the US.

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Crow T. Robot
wiseass mutha. =) http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com On Jan 7, 2008 3:49 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > fwiw, google is fast as fuck. > > i just googled, "Oshun Sekese" > and this came up > > > http://www.google.com/search?q=Oshun+Sekese&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:offic

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Tony
fwiw, google is fast as fuck. i just googled, "Oshun Sekese" and this came up http://www.google.com/search?q=Oshun+Sekese&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a that QUICK!!! wow. On Jan 7, 2008 1:29 PM, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 7, 2008

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Bruce Sorge
Larry Lyons wrote >> The problem is that most of them not only object to such classes being >> offered to their kids, but to anyone else's kids as well. I've seen it >> multiple times with other courses (ie., sex ed for one). >> My answer to that is that they need to pay more attention to th

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Bruce Sorge
Thanks for the correction. -- Throttle Jockey - Why golf courses should be motocross tracks Larry Lyons wrote: >> First, take a look at the bible belt. And look what states the bible >> belt encompasses. Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Mississippi, Arkansas, >> Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, South

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Larry Lyons
>Which is why it would be an elective. So if the kid did choose to take >this class (an assuming that the parents are paying attention to what >classes their kid is selecting), they have nothing to complain about. The problem is that most of them not only object to such classes being offered to

RE: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Loathe
Yeah, NOVA really hoses up the political system in the state. -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:18 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Huckabee is a huckster >First, take a look at the bible belt. And look what states the bi

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Larry Lyons
>First, take a look at the bible belt. And look what states the bible >belt encompasses. Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Mississippi, Arkansas, >Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Virginia, Kansas, and >Missouri. With some exceptions to areas in Texas and Louisiana, these >are all pretty m

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Deanna Schneider
On Jan 7, 2008 12:29 PM, Sean Corfield wrote: > On Jan 7, 2008 8:10 AM, Deanna Schneider wrote: > > By the way, according to Yoruba ideology, the gods poured sand from a > > calabash shell into the ocean, and sent down ancestral spirits who > > We have a cat called Oshun Sekese (which may mean so

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Vivec
*winces* *glances around for Dana* Not all people that homeschool... Oh wait...shhh..here she comes... 0_0 *whistles innocently* On Jan 7, 2008 12:30 PM, Matt Quackenbush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Those people are called "fundies". They have home schooling ~

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Sean Corfield
On Jan 7, 2008 10:19 AM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First, take a look at the bible belt. Nooo... I'm too scared to look! :) -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwo

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Sean Corfield
On Jan 7, 2008 8:28 AM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Which is why it would be a comparative religious studies rather than > comparative Christianity or comparative Islam. Or comparative Paganism - which could be an entire degree course all on its own... -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Sean Corfield
On Jan 7, 2008 8:10 AM, Deanna Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By the way, according to Yoruba ideology, the gods poured sand from a > calabash shell into the ocean, and sent down ancestral spirits who We have a cat called Oshun Sekese (which may mean something to you depending on how famil

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Bruce Sorge
First, take a look at the bible belt. And look what states the bible belt encompasses. Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Mississippi, Arkansas, Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Virginia, Kansas, and Missouri. With some exceptions to areas in Texas and Louisiana, these are all pretty much r

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > just out of curiosity... why would it follow that religious people would be > pro-gun? > cause if there's there's 2 things 'ligious folk like doin' it's takin' land n killin' ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Sean Corfield
On Jan 7, 2008 7:30 AM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is an idea that I do have though. Since we are required to teach > science in classrooms, and since Darwin's Theory of Evolution is taught > in the science class, why not have an elective called Religious Studies > or something a

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Dana
just out of curiosity... why would it follow that religious people would be pro-gun? On Jan 7, 2008 9:08 AM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From what I understand, he purposely did not campaign hard in Iowa > because he knew he would fare poorly there. He is concentrating on NH > becau

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Bruce Sorge
From what I understand, he purposely did not campaign hard in Iowa because he knew he would fare poorly there. He is concentrating on NH because he feels that these are more "his people" and might have a better chance there. Personally I don't think so. I think, that McCain, Thompson or even R

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Tony
t; > -Original Message- > From: Rick Root > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 6:33 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Huckabee is a huckster > > The only thing I like about Huckabee is that I kinda like the idea of > the Fair Tax. (www.fairtax.org). > > Of cours

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Dana
I know I will be too On Jan 7, 2008 6:48 AM, Jeff Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fair tax... Don't know if I like the idea of basically inflating the price > of everything by 30%... You really need to sit down and do the math... I > get a refund every year and my taxes are squished by deduct

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread G Money
Wow that's awful. I saw a poll that had as many as 8 of every 10 Huckabee voter in the Iowa caucus describe them self as "evangelical". On Jan 7, 2008 10:20 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rick wrote: > > That wouldn't be enough to get me to vote for Huckabee. > > Yeah, and check o

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Matt Quackenbush
On Jan 7, 2008 9:50 AM, G Money wrote: > It would be an elective.and basically, if your messed up enough that > you > don't want your child learning about the people around them, including > their > beliefs, you probably shouldn't have your child in school in the first > place. > Those peopl

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Bruce Sorge
Which is why it would be a comparative religious studies rather than comparative Christianity or comparative Islam. I think that this class would need to be a year round class though and not just one semester because there is so much to cover. I think that you could cover at least all the major

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Gruss Gott
> Rick wrote: > That wouldn't be enough to get me to vote for Huckabee. Yeah, and check out what he said yesterday: "When we become believers, it's as if we have signed up to be part of God's Army, to be soldiers for Christ ... there is suffering in the conditioning for battle ... [and] you obey

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Deanna Schneider
Religion is inextricably wound into many facets of our lives. If you take any art history class, you're going to touch on religion. Same could be said for lots of literature classes. If you look at architecture of the middle east, much of it is the way it is because religion dictates it. Politics

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Ian Skinner
Bruce Sorge wrote: "why not have an elective called Religious Studies or something along those lines for students that may not believe in Evolution or that my way to hear the other side of the argument, that being Creation and not Evolution?" Many schools have just this. And many on this list

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Bruce Sorge
Which is why it would be an elective. So if the kid did choose to take this class (an assuming that the parents are paying attention to what classes their kid is selecting), they have nothing to complain about. And speaking of comparative religion, this class is being offered to satisfy a philo

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread G Money
It would be an elective.and basically, if your messed up enough that you don't want your child learning about the people around them, including their beliefs, you probably shouldn't have your child in school in the first place. On Jan 7, 2008 9:47 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I would have loved a comparative religion class in high school. You'd probably have people complaining that they don't want their kids taught other religions though. On Jan 7, 2008 9:30 AM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is why I make comments on what I believe so I can hear othe

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread G Money
On Jan 7, 2008 9:30 AM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is why I make comments on what I believe so I can hear other > arguments, and of course I read. > Here is an idea that I do have though. Since we are required to teach > science in classrooms, and since Darwin's Theory of Evolut

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Bruce Sorge
That is why I make comments on what I believe so I can hear other arguments, and of course I read. Here is an idea that I do have though. Since we are required to teach science in classrooms, and since Darwin's Theory of Evolution is taught in the science class, why not have an elective called R

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread G Money
elieve in the constitution > and > support the separation between Church and State. > > > Bruce > > > > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 6:17 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Huckabee is a hu

RE: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Jeff Garza
Fair tax... Don't know if I like the idea of basically inflating the price of everything by 30%... You really need to sit down and do the math... I get a refund every year and my taxes are squished by deductions (house, kids, charity, 401K, IRA, etc)... I'll be paying _a lot_ more in taxes annual

RE: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Bruce
Except that Giuliani is too liberal for me. I don't even consider him a moderate Republican. Bruce -Original Message- From: Rick Root Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 6:33 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Huckabee is a huckster The only thing I like about Huckabee is that I kinda

RE: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Bruce
: Huckabee is a huckster Unfortunately, yes. I am not disagreeing with you. We cannot afford a third term of evangelism. On Jan 7, 2008 5:26 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Me either, and we need to constantly be reminding ourselves that Huckabee > is > a religious wacko. That

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Rick Root
The only thing I like about Huckabee is that I kinda like the idea of the Fair Tax. (www.fairtax.org). Of course, without the IRS, a lot of people would be out of jobs.. government jobs, tax preparers, etc... Still, the fair tax intrigues me. That wouldn't be enough to get me to vote for Huckabe

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Dana
Unfortunately, yes. I am not disagreeing with you. We cannot afford a third term of evangelism. On Jan 7, 2008 5:26 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Me either, and we need to constantly be reminding ourselves that Huckabee > is > a religious wacko. That trumps all else, unfortunately. We

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread G Money
absolutelyall pre-coffee posts come with an inherent disclaimer. On Jan 7, 2008 8:06 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > damn, I can't believe I did that...but in my defense, that was > before my first cup of coffee on Sunday. There's gotta be some kinda > loophole for tha

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
damn, I can't believe I did that...but in my defense, that was before my first cup of coffee on Sunday. There's gotta be some kinda loophole for that. On Jan 7, 2008 7:26 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 6, 2008 11:05 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > ..

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread G Money
On Jan 6, 2008 11:05 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...if we loose sight of that fact, we've lost our moral > compass" < this is from memory so the quote may not be perfect> yeah, he probably said "lose" instead of "loose". -- I've weighed out every option This scale's

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-07 Thread G Money
Me either, and we need to constantly be reminding ourselves that Huckabee is a religious wacko. That trumps all else, unfortunately. We simply CANNOT elect another person who thinks he has an exclusive audience with the Almighty! On Jan 6, 2008 2:15 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was kin

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > HA! McCain is leading and is going to crush Huckabee like a bug. > Any of the main candidates can weather a loss in NH except Romney; his plan was to buy Iowa, leverage his Boston image to win NH and use the wins to take the south. With the Iowa loss, if he loses NH he's more th

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > I was kind of impressed with Huckabee after Katrina. He's kind of the > Republican answer to John Edwards, and I do think we need a populist. I don't, which is why I like Obama's message over Edwards. Edwards: fight the corporations, Dad worked the mills. Obama: create a bi-parti

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-06 Thread Robert Munn
HA! McCain is leading and is going to crush Huckabee like a bug. On Jan 6, 2008 11:25 AM, J.J. Merrick wrote: > McCain doesn't have a prayer in NH... Huckabee on the other hand does :-) > > > It is all about Chuck Norris! > >

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-06 Thread Dana
I was kind of impressed with Huckabee after Katrina. He's kind of the Republican answer to John Edwards, and I do think we need a populist. I still can't get past the religious stuff though On 1/6/08, J.J. Merrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > McCain doesn't have a prayer in NH... Huckabee on the

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-06 Thread J.J. Merrick
McCain doesn't have a prayer in NH... Huckabee on the other hand does :-) It is all about Chuck Norris! On 1/6/08, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Zapper wrote: > > With all the other stuff brought up in that interview, I'm surprised > > the Flip-flopper label hasn't been brought out

Re: Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> Zapper wrote: > With all the other stuff brought up in that interview, I'm surprised > the Flip-flopper label hasn't been brought out yet. > If McCain wins NH, he wins the nomination and I don't think he'll pick Huck as a VP. On the Dems side I hope Obama gets the nod, goes on to win, and picks

Huckabee is a huckster

2008-01-06 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I just watched an interview with Huckabee on This Week with G. S. During that interview, the question of Schiavo came up and George asked him about his conflicting statement on the federal govt. stepping in. He responded saying "erring on the side of life is best, followed by a long spiel about ho