Figures, Army gets all the new equipment. I left the Marines in Feb 87 from
Okinawa and we didn't have any.
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From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:16 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: HMMWV (Was Higher Taxes for Hy
Community
> Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> Camry has 4 doors.
>
> On 11/28/05, Ken Ketsdever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The SUV isn't for the kids. It's for Mom and Dad. It's much easier
> > getting the kids in their car seats in the SUV (l
Looks like I was a little off, the entered army service in 1985
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 2:07 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> I don't know about our
er 29, 2005 10:43 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
Pretty funny, our Humvees are 25-30 years old right? The design was to
last
10 years.
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:37 PM
>
Pretty funny, our Humvees are 25-30 years old right? The design was to last
10 years.
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:37 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> M
Maintenence and design intent. The grunt drivers I know just wouldn't
buy a hummer for home.
On 11/29/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> because the Hummer does not stand up to anything you mean, or because
> of the gas mileage?
>
> I gather that these security moms tended to be high-income wit
d out, not as roomy either.
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From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 2:47 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
Camry has 4 doors.
On 11/28/05, Ken Ketsdever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The SUV isn't for the
because the Hummer does not stand up to anything you mean, or because
of the gas mileage?
I gather that these security moms tended to be high-income with young
children, ie Iraq is theoretical only for them.
On 11/28/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Trust me, if their kid was in Iraq
gt; To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
> >
> > Just an interesting comment on the SUV/larger vehicle issue; I saw a
> > television advertisement for some kind of SUV type vehicle, Jeep I think,
> > and a big feature of the advertised deal was the
Yeah, that is the case with a couple of Chrysler models.
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:47 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> Just an interesting comment on t
Just an interesting comment on the SUV/larger vehicle issue; I saw a television
advertisement for some kind of SUV type vehicle, Jeep I think, and a big
feature of the advertised deal was the one would get 2 years of gas with ones
purchase of the vehicle. Sounds to me like they are feeling the
Trust me, if their kid was in Iraq, they know better than to buy a
hummer. Fucking crapwagons.
On 11/28/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> think soccer mom post 9/11
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On 11/2
> Dana wrote:
> judging by my neighborhood, security moms. I have no idea how typical
> this is though.
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judging by my neighborhood, security moms. I have no idea how typical
this is though.
Dana
On 11/28/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Kevin wrote:
> > that people who were going to buy something as big as a Hummer were
>
> Does anyone think Hummers are cool? I like the backwoods vers
The market is high school kids with rich parents
On 11/28/05, Gruss Gott wrote:
> > Kevin wrote:
> > that people who were going to buy something as big as a Hummer were
>
> Does anyone think Hummers are cool? I like the backwoods versions
> (that are like Jeeps), but I have lots of SUV lovin' fri
So will the government of germany buy my car if I can't afford to upgrade?
> -Original Message-
> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:48 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> The US needs
Camry has 4 doors.
On 11/28/05, Ken Ketsdever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The SUV isn't for the kids. It's for Mom and Dad. It's much easier
> getting the kids in their car seats in the SUV (less bending over with a
> 20 - 40 lb kids in arm trying to maneuver them in or out of a car seat
> at od
I don't like them, even for off road trails most people prefer the Jeep
Wrangler.
> -Original Message-
> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 5:11 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> Does any
> Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> > Nick wrote:
> > So will the government of germany buy my car if I can't afford to
> upgrade?
> >
>
> No, you can walk. But stay outta the left lane:
> Kevin wrote:
> that people who were going to buy something as big as a Hummer were
Does anyone think Hummers are cool? I like the backwoods versions
(that are like Jeeps), but I have lots of SUV lovin' friends and they
don't even like them. Who's buying these things?
~
> Ray wrote:
> Yep, and they also have great public transportation, don't they? when
> you're out in the country, or just plain poor, sometimes that 15 year
> old junker is the only way to get from point A to point B.
>
Well there's plenty of country there with no public transportation,
but they
> Nick wrote:
> So will the government of germany buy my car if I can't afford to upgrade?
>
No, you can walk. But stay outta the left lane: I don't want to pick
teeth and hair out of my grill again.
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No, I don't think so. At least not at a significant enough sales level
to really blame the incentives. I don't have figures, but my guess is
that people who were going to buy something as big as a Hummer were
going to buy it anyway and the incentives just finally gave them their
reason to trade in
Yep, and they also have great public transportation, don't they? when
you're out in the country, or just plain poor, sometimes that 15 year
old junker is the only way to get from point A to point B.
Gruss Gott wrote:
>>Nick wrote:
>>Ah, see that is where we disagree, IMHO the cause of the accid
> Nick wrote:
> Ah, see that is where we disagree, IMHO the cause of the accident was the
> driver of car 2 failing to obey the law.
>
The US needs car laws like Germany: no pieces of crap and open speed
limits (if you don't drive over 100 then stay the hell out of the left
lane). In Germany I th
ling to obey the law.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:32 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
> >
> > Legally car 2 is at fault in both scenari
Ah, see that is where we disagree, IMHO the cause of the accident was the
driver of car 2 failing to obey the law.
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:32 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybri
> Nick wrote:
> Better for what?
>
Escaping and evading.
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t; > -Original Message-
> > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:07 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
> >
> > there is legal fault and there is who caused the accident. Not always
>
No way, if the driver of the following car had been keeping a reasonable
distance and reacted quickly enough then there wouldn't have been an
accident.
If you want to drive that way, then you suffer the consequences. People that
ride my ass annoy the crap out of me. In this town going a little fas
2 hits
car 1.
Who is at fault?
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:07 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> there is legal fault and there is who caused the accident. Not always
&g
> Dana wrote:
> there is legal fault and there is who caused the accident.
There is not doubt in these bumper-to-bumper SUV rear enders that had
the SUV driver been in a compact car the accident would not have
occurred.
But to add to Dana's point: But for the actions of the lead driver
the accid
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> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:02 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> > Nick wrote:
> > Yeah, that is stuff I just don't care about. I don't race, I don't need
> to
> > go over 90mph.
>
>
November 28, 2005 3:02 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
> >
> > they are somewhat different animals though -- it's a lot harder to
> > pass/get around on the two lanes.
> >
> > On 11/28/05, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED
> Nick wrote:
> Yeah, that is stuff I just don't care about. I don't race, I don't need to
> go over 90mph.
There's your mistake right there. Now if you want to talk safety,
having a better engine, brakes, suspension, and tires than others is
WAY safer than being slow and top heavy.
These are th
on in front of you
stopped; the fact that they did stop and you didn't makes it your fault.
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:02 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> they
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 2:24 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
> >
> > ah! he is talking city rush hour on multi-lane road, you are ta
The SUV isn't for the kids. It's for Mom and Dad. It's much easier
getting the kids in their car seats in the SUV (less bending over with a
20 - 40 lb kids in arm trying to maneuver them in or out of a car seat
at odd angles that are far more apt to create back trouble). It also
has added room fo
I'm talking both, but city driving here involves stop lights and
pedestrians, and rural two lane roads.
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 2:24 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
&g
road for me involves two stop lights one
of which I can't see because of the hill.
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 2:21 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> u8m, if
MY two kids fit quite well into a Camry. Now that my son is pushing
5'10 he probably prefers the back seat of the Jeep to the back seat of
the CRV but kids don't necessarily require an SUV.
On 11/28/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Nick wrote:
> > This slow thing, I just don't get tha
granted, but it is also at least partially responsible for the shift
to heavier less fuel-efficient vehicles don't you think? In other
words we didn't just get ranch trucks getting replaced by newer ranch
trucks, we got Hummers as well.
Dana
On 11/28/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
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> > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:52 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
> >
> > >
> > > 1.) Heavy traffic, i.e., bumper to bumper
> > > 2.) SUV driver not paying attention to traffic slowing down.
&g
nd the SUV wouldn't help you in that situation.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:49 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
> >
> > BTW th
odds are in favor.
Dana
On 11/28/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 1.) Heavy traffic, i.e., bumper to bumper
> > 2.) SUV driver not paying attention to traffic slowing down.
> > 3.) SUV driver realizes traffic stopped or slowed and slams on brakes.
> > 4.) Car behind SUV can't see the brak
see rear end collisions. If you can't stop based on the
> vehicle directly in front of you then you need to stop driving.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 11:27 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> &g
Your criteria for a car are different than the goals of an SUV. That
doesn't make the SUV bad, just your criteria that are off kilter. :-)
On 11/28/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My mom has a Nissan Pathfinder and they've done a great job at faking
> power: they've tweaked the torque
nture to say
> hybrids weigh less than the average, could be wrong.
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Yeah, that is stuff I just don't care about. I don't race, I don't need to
go over 90mph. I don't need great cornering, and I sure as hell don't have
have 35k to spend on a car.
The new Ford Escape cost 25k I think and is loaded to the teeth. V6 engine
that accelerates well, and gets me where I ne
So I guess you're getting an SUV.
-Original Message-
From: Tim Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:31 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
I've got kids, and would still prefer the Sti or Evo.
The wife wants the SUV.
>
I've got kids, and would still prefer the Sti or Evo.
The wife wants the SUV.
> -Original Message-
> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 10:55 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> > Ni
> Nick wrote:
> This slow thing, I just don't get that. Are you really talking about
> acceleration? Cause they move down the road pretty well.
>
My mom has a Nissan Pathfinder and they've done a great job at faking
power: they've tweaked the torque converter, and power curve peaks
quickly. If y
So far most hybrids weigh a lot less than the average vehicle due to the
fact they tend to be smaller. Maybe that should be considered.
We might also want to consider that I pay more in taxes & registration
for my truck based on the fact it weighs more than the average vehicle.
My truck
Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> Ding! Same ole story.
>
> SUVs bug me, sure, but I'll probably buy one at some point so I don't
> want to be hypocritical.
>
> I know a guy who coaches hockey for his 3 kids, 2 of whom play year
> round. He's got an extended
> Brian wrote:
> How much you wanna bet that the driver of the SUV wasn't paying attention
> because she was on her cell phone?
>
Ding! Same ole story.
SUVs bug me, sure, but I'll probably buy one at some point so I don't
want to be hypocritical.
I know a guy who coaches hockey for his 3 kids,
Maybe, of course, there are hybrid SUVs now, and large sedans are coming as
well.
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:31 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> They probab
They probably do weigh more than a car of equal size. But what is the
average weight of a vehicle on the road today? I would venture to say
hybrids weigh less than the average, could be wrong.
Hybrid with batteries compared to SUV, Pick-up truck? At least in
Northern California I would say 60
Easy to add those numbers in considering the law that gave the credit was
passed in 1997.
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:20 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> $3
I thought most hybrids weighed more than the car they were built on. After
adding in the battery and other parts, considering the engine and gas tank
still exist.
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:18 AM
Hybrids
What this states but doesn't make clear is that the heavy equipment
credit is designed for companies that need to update old equipment. Many
companies are using outdated equipment that did much more damage to
environment that newer ones.
Accountants took advantage of the law and ass
This administration lose credibility, say it ain't so. Wait wait wait,
do they have any left to lose?
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From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 11:44 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
call me a wild-eyed hippie
It's not dysfunctional if you see it as an incentive to replace
existing old heavy trucks that have MUCH poorer emissions controls.
Heck, when MN instituted manditory emissions checks, my old '80 Ford
didn't pass.
On 11/27/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> but it isn't any kind of vehicle thou
Exactly!
> -Original Message-
> From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:03 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> then everyone around them gets on their cell phones to call the
> cops.or
> their hu
then everyone around them gets on their cell phones to call the cops.or
their husbands..."guess what i just saw!"
God i hate cell phones.
> The same amount that I'll bet the person behind them wasn't paying enough
> attention to the SUV because he or she was on their cell phone.
>
~~
ect: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> >
> > 1.) Heavy traffic, i.e., bumper to bumper
> > 2.) SUV driver not paying attention to traffic slowing down.
> > 3.) SUV driver realizes traffic stopped or slowed and slams on brakes.
> > 4.) Car behind SUV can't see t
road, you have to be able to stop. Being able to
see around the SUV wouldn't help you in that situation.
> -Original Message-
> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:49 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
&
>
> 1.) Heavy traffic, i.e., bumper to bumper
> 2.) SUV driver not paying attention to traffic slowing down.
> 3.) SUV driver realizes traffic stopped or slowed and slams on brakes.
> 4.) Car behind SUV can't see the brake lights in front of the SUV so
> they have no warning that the SUV driver is
> Hat wrote:
> Personally I find it hilarious when I pull up to a stop light and find
> myself right next to someone who blew my doors off no more than 3
> minutes before.
Then you don't understand fine motoring ;-) The point is not to make
all the lights, it's to get the pole postion. To be in
; Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 11:27 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> Dude. Do you ever drive in traffic? There is no such thing as a
> "safe distance". If you tried to leave a safe distance somebody will
> just fill in the gap (w
legally, sure. Only solution is to avoid following them when possible.
Possibly by passing them. It's a fact that defensive driving classes
say you should be looking several cars ahead at least, which is
impossible when following oh let's say a Humvee. Or a semi for that
matter.
Dana
On 11/27/05,
> Dude. Do you ever drive in traffic? There is no such thing as a
> "safe distance". If you tried to leave a safe distance somebody will
> just fill in the gap (which is what I do so I don't have to drive
> behind the fat asses).
By your own admission you are the exact kind of driver that gets
it does make it much more difficult to foresee slowdowns.
Dana
On 11/27/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Nick wrote:
> > Oh, so because the person was tailgating it is the SUVs fault?
> >
>
> Dude. Do you ever drive in traffic? There is no such thing as a
> "safe distance". If you
> Nick wrote:
> Oh, so because the person was tailgating it is the SUVs fault?
>
Dude. Do you ever drive in traffic? There is no such thing as a
"safe distance". If you tried to leave a safe distance somebody will
just fill in the gap (which is what I do so I don't have to drive
behind the fat
Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:36 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
> >
> > but it isn't any kind of vehicle though... it's only vehicles over a
> > certain weight. Not trying to
.
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:36 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> but it isn't any kind of vehicle though... it's only vehicles over a
> certain weight. Not tr
> > Demonizing SUVs is pretty funny, I'm curious why the people that talk
> > bad about SUVs don't make the same complaints about Luxury Sedans.
>
> Because SUVs are big, ugly, slow wastes of metal that ruin the driving
> experience, waste space, cause accidents and traffic bottlenecks, and
> endan
but it isn't any kind of vehicle though... it's only vehicles over a
certain weight. Not trying to give you a hard time, just pointing out
that as policy goes this is a bit dysfunctional.
Dana
On 11/27/05, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/27/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
-Original Message-
> > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:26 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
> >
> > Yes, it's actually easier to get into and out of than my old spor
On 11/27/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> it's my understanding that there are such incentives fior SUVs, ayup.
> Sorry busy but if I get a chance I'll try to find you a link.
As others have said this is a for businesses and not individuals...
I've taken credits on every large purchase I've m
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> > > > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:13 PM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
> > > >
> > > > well, if it happe
See, smelling a biodiesel would make me want to go postal. Regular
diesel is bad enough, but the smell of cooking grease just brings back
horrible memories of being a teenager and working fast food.
On 11/27/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> biodiesel sounds like a really good alternative actu
in that case I suppose I might have a shot at seeing around it...
Dana
On 11/27/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, it's actually easier to get into and out of than my old sport sedan.
>
> On 11/27/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > can you get into it without using a steptool
Oh, I hate sport sedans, and really most sedans. I always feel like I'm
having to fall in and out of them.
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:26 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Higher Taxes
ity
> Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> like Biodiesel! :)
>
>
> On 11/27/05, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You are probably right; however I would rather focus on true
> > alternati
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:07 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
maybe it correlates with trophy vehicles. which lately has meant
SUVs. But yes, could be a beamer and probably was in the 80s...
and I agree, smiley smiley smiley :) don't want anyone to feel
gear in a way that it is easily accessible.
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:19 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> mm? What would you do with it? I occasionally haul fur
Yes, it's actually easier to get into and out of than my old sport sedan.
On 11/27/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> can you get into it without using a steptool? :)
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To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
> Nick wrote:
> I've also never seen a situation where the SUV caused and accident or a
> bottleneck.
SUVs cause accidents because smaller cars can't see around them. When
the SUV hits the brakes in traffic, they get
t; > You are probably right; however I would rather focus on true
> > alternatives as opposed to the hybrid which is just a stop gap.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:13
Oh I agree, with everything you say there.
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:17 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> well, see that is reasonable in my opinion especially if i
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> > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:13 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
> >
> > well, if it happens you'll hear a lot of eyerolling from me. There are
> > enough disincentives to getting a hybrid right now, and it
can you get into it without using a steptool? :)
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Dana
On 11/27/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hm. My SUV is actually shorter in length than the audi a4 I was
> looking at, gets better mileage in the city than the a4 where 95% of
> my driving is done, the spee
the like could be passed off as work vehicles.
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:07 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
> >
> > maybe it correlates with
Well the proposals of extra taxes on hybrids is what supports my
comments that the system is flawed.
On 11/27/05, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, but so long as cars run off this resource then I don't see a
> problem.
>
> If we run out of gas, and cars still
I have to chime in and add that I believe SUV's give drivers a false
sense of security and authority. I don't get cut off very often by
sedan's, but SUV's tend to just move on over into my lane..and I'm
driving a 3/4 pickup. I see more "soccer mom's" multitasking in SUV's
than any other vehic
You are probably right; however I would rather focus on true
alternatives as opposed to the hybrid which is just a stop gap.
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:13 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Higher Ta
Hm. My SUV is actually shorter in length than the audi a4 I was
looking at, gets better mileage in the city than the a4 where 95% of
my driving is done, the speed limits in the city are typically 30mpg
(though it does fine on the freeway), and I haven't been in an
accident since I was 17.
And I c
y style was a bit
> different, and it did weigh a little more, but not much.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 9:51 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
> >
>
Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:10 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Higher Taxes for Hybrids
>
> ummm not sure. It was still under warranty last year so maybe a 2002?
> And my Sport is not sure, maybe a 94. From the quick research I just
> did it would seem as though Jeep models
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