RE: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-30 Thread Tangorre, Michael
I have not come across this type of class in my graduate work... I did however take 3 classes in my undergraduate studies on Data Structures. I am pretty sure I have all my notebooks, old tests, books, and programs. If I can dig them up, you are welcome to borrow them and go through a  self paced l

RE: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Sandy Clark
__   From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 4:30 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: I need a little pick me up Can't guide you except to say, that you may be looking for a class on Algorithms.  My understanding is that these classes deal with exactly wha

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread a cantrl .
>>  >I am not going to rock the ship too much here, but the fact of the > >You are assuming that the existance of a degree is not part of the >evaluation, where expectations are generated.  This, I believe, is the >argument. No, because in a Free Market the one who takes the right risks wins. T

RE: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Ian Skinner
Can't guide you except to say, that you may be looking for a class on Algorithms.  My understanding is that these classes deal with exactly what you requested. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA "C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!"   

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Ben Doom
Sorry.  Didn't mean to make heads go all 'splodey like that. --ben "ubergeek" doom Candace Cottrell wrote: > *trickles of blood coming out of Candace's mouth and nose* > > Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer > The Children's Medical Center > One Children's Plaza > Dayton, OH 45404 > 937-641-4293

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Jim Campbell
Better than spewing blood, you know. - Jim Deanna Schneider wrote: >- Original Message - >From: "Candace Cottrell" > >   > >>*trickles of blood coming out of Candace's mouth and nose* >>    >> > >LOL! You just made me spew water. > >(I'm probably between the two of you, though. I'm psy

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread William H Bowen
We just got our numbers for increases. In addition to the normal pay increases, etc. this year the world-wide HR department decided to re-align the entire organization with the same grade numbers (Up until now each unit was responsible for their own grades). With the grade re-assignment also c

RE: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Andre Turrettini
We got a bleeder!!! -Original Message- From: Candace Cottrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 1:44 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: I need a little pick me up *trickles of blood coming out of Candace's mouth and nose* Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Deanna Schneider
- Original Message - From: "Candace Cottrell" > *trickles of blood coming out of Candace's mouth and nose* LOL! You just made me spew water. (I'm probably between the two of you, though. I'm psyched to learn about it, but I'm not thinking, "oh hey, piece o' cake.) [Todays Threads] [T

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Kevin Graeme
I read that as "tickles" and was really, really confused. And disturbed. -Kevin > *trickles of blood coming out of Candace's mouth and nose* [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Candace Cottrell
*trickles of blood coming out of Candace's mouth and nose* Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer The Children's Medical Center One Children's Plaza Dayton, OH 45404 937-641-4293 http://www.childrensdayton.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] "There is no right price for the wrong product, even if it is inexp

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Ben Doom
>  >I am not going to rock the ship too much here, but the fact of the > matter is >  >that often times a degree is needed, especially as a discriminator > when two >  >seemingly qualified people are interviewed and one has a degree and > one does >  >not. > > Not in a Free Market. In a free ma

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Ben Doom
I know that somewhere in my pile of overpriced texts I've got something good on the subject.  If I can find it tonight, I'll let you know. Basically, though, there are a few "first principles" that, once learned, apply to pretty much anything. For example, once you have a good grasp of the basi

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Deanna Schneider
Yes, yes. I have that book. Not what I'm talking about. - Original Message - From: "William H Bowen" > Just go buy Joe Celko's SQL for Smarties, very good book with lots of > good information on creating/maintaining structures. > > :-) > > will > [Todays Threads] [This Message]

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread William H Bowen
--- Original Message - > From: "Matthew Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 11:45 AM > Subject: Re: I need a little pick me up > > > Abraham Lincoln University as well. > >

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Deanna Schneider
y for a college course to do it. Mm. -d - Original Message - From: "Matthew Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 11:45 AM Subject: Re: I need a little pick me up > Abraham Lincoln Universi

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread a cantrl .
>I am not going to rock the ship too much here, but the fact of the matter is >that often times a degree is needed, especially as a discriminator when two >seemingly qualified people are interviewed and one has a degree and one does >not. Not in a Free Market. In a free market there is only deman

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Phillip B
LMAO! I may have to use that as an email signature. Phillip B. "...He's got a *huge* conscience" Ben Doom wrote: > "...He's got a *huge* conscience" > > --benD > > Phillip B wrote: > > Part of me wants to go out this way. I just have to much pride in my > > work. I don't want to let down

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Ben Doom
"...He's got a *huge* conscience" --benD Phillip B wrote: > Part of me wants to go out this way. I just have to much pride in my > work. I don't want to let down the other people I work with either. Damn > my good morals and ethics. To bad girls don't find good morals and > ethics that sexy.

RE: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Tangorre, Michael
My fiance does :-) She definitely isn't marrying me for my bald headed bar bouncer looks.  LOL > To bad girls don't find good morals and ethics that sexy. :-p [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Phillip B
Part of me wants to go out this way. I just have to much pride in my work. I don't want to let down the other people I work with either. Damn my good morals and ethics. To bad girls don't find good morals and ethics that sexy. :-p Kevin Graeme wrote: > Since your boss seems to be understanding

RE: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Tangorre, Michael
Yeah, I checked them out... They have more ridiculous fees than a pushy salesman at a car dealership. > Abraham Lincoln University as well. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Matthew Small
Abraham Lincoln University as well. alu.edu - Matt Small   - Original Message -   From: Haggerty, Mike   To: CF-Community   Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:53 AM   Subject: RE: I need a little pick me up   Really?   I thought Phoenix was the only university that was this far along

RE: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Heald, Tim
nitions in E.O. 12958. -Original Message- From: a cantrl. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 11:00 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: I need a little pick me up >I am in the same situation. Tim, why not take Ayn Rand seriously and test your abilities in the true free

RE: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Tangorre, Michael
You are in luck... Strayer has campuses all over the DC metro area. Also, you can mix it up: some online and some on campus. Tell your wife to back off for a few hours on Saturday or Sunday morning while you do the "online" part of your work. I bring my assignments to work (reading/writing) and do

RE: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Tangorre, Michael
I am not going to rock the ship too much here, but the fact of the matter is that often times a degree is needed, especially as a discriminator when two seemingly qualified people are interviewed and one has a degree and one does not. Also, if you work for the gvt or a gvt contractor, your bill rat

RE: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Heald, Tim
sified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958. -Original Message- From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:48 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: I need a little pick me up Tim - Consider University of Phoenix. You can do the whole thing online. M

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread a cantrl .
ganizations. This e-mail is >unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958. > >-Original Message- >From: Phillip B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:23 AM >To: CF-Community >Subject: I need a little pick me up > > >We are having our end of the ye

RE: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Tangorre, Michael
Strayer offers all their programs online. I have 5 quarters left (1 class per quarter) then I will be done. The only time I stepped on the cmapus was to meet with the Dean about getting excused form some general programming and Linuz classes which my work experience and undergrad comp sci degree al

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Kevin Graeme
t. Make them fire you over it. And get a good reference from your boss anyway. -Kevin - Original Message - From: "Phillip B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 9:13 AM Subject: I need a little pick me up

RE: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> I'm going to talk to her today about the situation. I won't use any > threatening language but I'll let her know how I feel. Then I'm going to > take the next two days off and get my resume together. Any one need a > job? I see a position coming available real soon. ;-] I would say that it's not

RE: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Haggerty, Mike
Really? I thought Phoenix was the only university that was this far along. M -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:52 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: I need a little pick me up Strayer offers all their programs online, on

RE: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Tangorre, Michael
Strayer offers all their programs online, on-campus, or a combo of both. > Consider University of Phoenix. You can do the whole thing online. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Phillip B
I'm going to talk to her today about the situation. I won't use any threatening language but I'll let her know how I feel. Then I'm going to take the next two days off and get my resume together. Any one need a job? I see a position coming available real soon. ;-] Dan Phillips wrote: > Yeah I

RE: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Haggerty, Mike
Tim - Consider University of Phoenix. You can do the whole thing online. M -Original Message- From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:28 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: I need a little pick me up I am in the same situation.  Our CFO came here last

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Phillip B
I went back to school for two semesters a couple of years ago. Ended up with a 4.0. I never had anything better than a 2.5 in high school. :-\ Any way, I didn't feel like I was getting what I wanted out of it. At this point I don't know if I can keep doing this for a living. I have two kids, an

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread a cantrl .
I'd write up a resignation letter and quit - right now. >We are having our end of the year reviews. I have a new boss that has >turned out to be real cool. She looked to see what the average income >some one like myself should be making and told her boss that I needed a >big raise. He said that

RE: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Tangorre, Michael
So much for the "pick me up". The point is, is that some companies are just not going to budge, so if you can afford the time and cost of a degree program, do it now; it can only help you. > yeah haha, and by the time he finishes, he gets laid off.  :-( [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscr

RE: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Tangorre, Michael
bout names, its all about what you get out of it! Mike > -Original Message- > From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:28 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: I need a little pick me up > > I am in the same situation.  Our CFO came

RE: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Dan Phillips
? -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:30 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: I need a little pick me up Phillip, it may not help, but you might assemble similar tech job listings that DO equate your experience to a BS. Just so your boss

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread brobborb
WARNING!  SPOILER BELOW! yeah haha, and by the time he finishes, he gets laid off.  :-(   - Original Message -   From: Tangorre, Michael   To: CF-Community   Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 9:28 AM   Subject: RE: I need a little pick me up   Do you want a degree? If so, why not enroll

RE: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Heald, Tim
- From: Phillip B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:23 AM To: CF-Community Subject: I need a little pick me up We are having our end of the year reviews. I have a new boss that has turned out to be real cool. She looked to see what the average income some one like myself

Re: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Jerry Johnson
Phillip, it may not help, but you might assemble similar tech job listings that DO equate your experience to a BS. Just so your boss has some ammunition if she needs it. Jerry Johnson >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/29/04 10:13AM >>> We are having our end of the year reviews. I have a new boss that has

RE: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Tangorre, Michael
Do you want a degree? If so, why not enroll part time in a course and show that you are working towards your degree... It could be a win win situation for you both! > We are having our end of the year reviews. I have a new boss > that has turned out to be real cool. She looked to see what > the

RE: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread John Stanley
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:14 AM To: CF-Community Subject: I need a little pick me up We are having our end of the year reviews. I have a new boss that has turned out to be real cool. She looked to see what the average income some one like myself should be making and tol

RE: I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Raymond Camden
I'd walk away. (Of course, that is easy for me to say.) My mother ran into the same problem. She worked at Monsanto for 20+ years, but "only" had an associate degree. Even though she did the same work as the PHDs, even though she _trained_ PHDs, they constantly told her they couldn't pay her more b

I need a little pick me up

2004-03-29 Thread Phillip B
We are having our end of the year reviews. I have a new boss that has turned out to be real cool. She looked to see what the average income some one like myself should be making and told her boss that I needed a big raise. He said that despite the money I have saved the company, tens of thousan