Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-15 Thread Dana
I lived in Paris for a couple of years. A good bit of it in different friends' apartments. My parents lived in the 16th arrondissement off Avenue Foch. The McD's I was thinking of was on the Champs-Elysees and was quite the thing at the time, especially at the private school I went to eight or nin

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-15 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > yeah, I don't remember anything like that in Paris. Except for McD's > milkshakes, and every time I have one of those I feel like I have just > had an infusion of some sort of chemical. What do they make those > with? Do they actually contain milk? I dunno, but they don't look too

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-15 Thread Dana
yeah, I don't remember anything like that in Paris. Except for McD's milkshakes, and every time I have one of those I feel like I have just had an infusion of some sort of chemical. What do they make those with? Do they actually contain milk? Dana On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:55:53 -0600, Gruss Gott <

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-15 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > Personally I am just as impressed as hell that the strawberry slushie > contains actual strawberries. I took a French colleague to an America burger joint (I ordered him a 1lb er!) and he got an oreo milkshake and said, "zees ees veddy strange. You eet it, but you drink eet also.

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-15 Thread Dana
Personally I am just as impressed as hell that the strawberry slushie contains actual strawberries. And my nearest Sonic is about a block and a half way, nyah nyah nyah :) Dana On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:10:15 -0600, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ray wrote: > > Forget the fruit. I want

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-15 Thread Gruss Gott
> Ray wrote: > Forget the fruit. I want one of those > Cherry/Grape/BubbleGum/whateverotherflavor Frozen Cokes and that big greasy > egg/cheese/bacon sanwiches on Fried Texas Toast. That sounds like a damn > healthy breakfast to me. I saw The Biggest Loser last night and there was guy who ate 5

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-15 Thread Dana
yeah, their food is surprisingly good for fast food, and you got to love a place you can get fresh fruit for under a dollar. Dana On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:34:00 -0500, Bill Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I knew there was a reason i loved sonic...and not just for the tastest > freaking food

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-15 Thread Ray Champagne
Forget the fruit. I want one of those Cherry/Grape/BubbleGum/whateverotherflavor Frozen Cokes and that big greasy egg/cheese/bacon sanwiches on Fried Texas Toast. That sounds like a damn healthy breakfast to me. I wish they would build one around here somewhere, I haven't got a clue as to wh

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-15 Thread Bill Wheatley
I knew there was a reason i loved sonic...and not just for the tastest freaking food you'll ever eat. GOOD NEWS!!! they are thinking of building sonics in South florida!. If i just raise 1 million dollars i could be a franchise for them and rake in the bucks. Such a great franchise. On Tue, 14 D

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-14 Thread Sam Morris
I know, and OJ didn't kill anyone. On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 08:07:14 -0600, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > > > I was responding to: "essentially that means she didn't violate the law" > > > > In the US there is a presumption of innocence. If a prosecutor can't > make a stro

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-13 Thread Dana
AH! Was just searching the marketwatch site and it seems Spitzer is running for governor. This explains much. Dana On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:03:19 -0500, Won Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dana wrote: > > Speaking of responsive, this raises an interesting question. What if > > Martha Stewart had

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-13 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > > I was responding to: "essentially that means she didn't violate the law" > In the US there is a presumption of innocence. If a prosecutor can't make a strong enough case to prove guilt, you're presumed innocent; at least by those that respect the constitution.

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-13 Thread Won Lee
Sam Morris wrote: > He bought the stock when it crashed hoping one day it would rally. > Sounds more like a crazy gambler then having inside knowledge. My post was unclear. I'm not accusing Ichan of any underhanded play. I'm just pointing out that it's funny how Stewart went all crazy over the

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-13 Thread Sam Morris
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 16:23:39 -0600, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For me the point is that they couldn't prosecute her for securities > violations because they didn't have a case - essentially that means > she didn't violate the law so she did know better and acted on that > knowledge.

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-13 Thread Dana
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Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-13 Thread Sam Morris
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:28:50 -0800, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was responding to: "essentially that means she didn't violate the law" It's like saying no way OJ could have done it. > "not enough evidence to prove it" means you should still presume > innocence, no? Or does this

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-13 Thread William Bowen
> It's obvious she's guilty, her broker's assistant admitted it, just... She was charged with nine counts and only found guilty on one (Obstruction of justice), with one count (Securities fraud) being dismissed by the judge. Her sentence was five months and she is almost through with that. Additio

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-13 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > I am not sure. A lot of the licensig requirements have to do with what > you can't do and what insider trading is. For me the point is that they couldn't prosecute her for securities violations because they didn't have a case - essentially that means she didn't violate the law so s

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-13 Thread Won Lee
Dana wrote: > Speaking of responsive, this raises an interesting question. What if > Martha Stewart had been a Republican donor? > > :) I'll hush up now. > What if? I'm not a Martha fan at all, but I think she got short changed. She was an easy mark and something needed to be done to placat

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-13 Thread Dana
I am not sure. A lot of the licensig requirements have to do with what you can't do and what insider trading is. Granted that ignorance is not excuse, there is no possibility of an honest mistake with this if she was a licensed broker. On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:20:59 -0800, William Bowen <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-13 Thread William Bowen
> ? may have prevented her from saying she did not know better. Perhaps, but at the same time, ignorance of the law is no excuse. Her status as a former broker should have no effect on the charges against her. You're either guilty or not, you're not _more_ guilty if you "know better" -- --

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-13 Thread Dana
? may have prevented her from saying she did not know better. Dana On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 16:05:49 -0500, Won Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > William Bowen wrote: > > > >>>She was a licensed broker so she new what she was doing was illegal. > > > > > >>I'm sure it weighed in that she was a forme

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-13 Thread Dana
I didn't realize Spitzer was a Democrat. I was just making a cynical remark. I did see her interview with Larry King. She expressed the opinion that she would not have been charged if she were a man, in other words that her status as a prominent female business owner caused her to be singled out.

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-13 Thread Won Lee
William Bowen wrote: >>>She was a licensed broker so she new what she was doing was illegal. > > >>I'm sure it weighed in that she was a former broker for MER but doesn't >>mean you should let others slide. She was a sophisticated investor and >>as such she should know she can't trade on inside

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-13 Thread William Bowen
> > She was a licensed broker so she new what she was doing was illegal. > I'm sure it weighed in that she was a former broker for MER but doesn't > mean you should let others slide. She was a sophisticated investor and > as such she should know she can't trade on inside info. But my point > is,

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-13 Thread Sam Morris
He bought the stock when it crashed hoping one day it would rally. Sounds more like a crazy gambler then having inside knowledge. She was high profile and an easy conviction, and like you said, Spitzer is a Democrat. On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:21:40 -0500, Won Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sam Mo

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-13 Thread Won Lee
Sam Morris wrote: > She was a licensed broker so she new what she was doing was illegal. > I'm sure if she wasn't they would have let her slide. > I'm sure it weighed in that she was a former broker for MER but doesn't mean you should let others slide. She was a sophisticated investor and as s

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-13 Thread Sam Morris
She was a licensed broker so she new what she was doing was illegal. I'm sure if she wasn't they would have let her slide. On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:03:19 -0500, Won Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dana wrote: > > Speaking of responsive, this raises an interesting question. What if > > Martha Stew

Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-13 Thread Gruss Gott
Corporate donations list from the Center for Responsive Politics: Retail: Price Club/Costco donated $225K, of which 99% went to democrats; WalMart, $467K, 97% to republicans; K-Mart, $524K, 86% to republicans; Home Depot, $298K, 89% to republicans; Target, $226K, 70% to republicans; Circuit

Re: Interesting Corporate Donation List

2004-12-13 Thread Dana
Speaking of responsive, this raises an interesting question. What if Martha Stewart had been a Republican donor? :) I'll hush up now. Dana On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:36:22 -0600, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Corporate donations list from the Center for Responsive Politics: > > Retail: