Just something I read this morning at the CBC News website:
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/05/06/world/icrc_prisoners040506
Red Cross knew of abuses: report
Last Updated Thu, 06 May 2004 10:45:16
GENEVA - The Red Cross was aware of alleged prisoner abuse at Iraq's Abu
Ghraib prison months befor
I would think that duty in Iraq would be very stressful. It's dangerous and it isn't always clear who the enemy is. Nonetheless. Stress does not excuse what is happening in these pictures.
Dana
>> What's frightening is that the US Forces haven't even been
>
>You are assuming that "shell shocked"
Just something I read this morning from the Canadian Broadcast Corporation:
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/05/06/world/icrc_prisoners040506
Red Cross knew of abuses: report
Last Updated Thu, 06 May 2004 10:45:16
GENEVA - The Red Cross was aware of alleged prisoner abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib pri
Do a search on suicide rates of US military in Iraq. From what I've been
reading, it's up 20% of normal. And it appears that it doesn't include
failed attempts which are also reputedly very high right now.
So there's something going on, even if it's not "shellshock" or PTSD. Or
maybe the stress le
There is no comparison to the time that those troops in Vietnam stayed
there to the time the troops have stayed in Iraq.
That was my point.They're on the ground in Iraq now, and this happened.
There are those that are pointing to Vietnam and saying well look,
it's not that unexpected because i
I agree that it's too early to say how it will all play out.
And from the soldiers' perspective, you're absolutely right. I was thinking
more from the point of view of fallout and perceptions
Some serious doo-doo is coming down the tubes, I'd say.
-Original Message-
From: Angel Stewar
> What's frightening is that the US Forces haven't even been
> there a proper year yet.
> So they aren't shellshocked.
> They aren't jaded.
> They aren't cracking up from being away from home too long.
> They have none of the excuses or psychological factors that
> you may say would contribute t
What's frightening is that the US Forces haven't even been there a
proper year yet.
So they aren't shellshocked.
They aren't jaded.
They aren't cracking up from being away from home too long.
They have none of the excuses or psychological factors that you may say
would contribute to he
the phrase "bigger than Vietnam" comes to mind. From that "let's start a war
in the middle east" Flash site that Cantrell posted quite a while ago
-Original Message-
From: dana tierney
Yes, it concerns me that the politically correct take seems to be that these
are the actions of a f
Yes, it concerns me that the politically correct take seems to be that these are the actions of a few. I saw some more pictures this morning... I do not think that a soldier would put a prisoner on a leash unless she was very sure that this would be ok, if not favorably viewed. It doesn't pass the
that's a good question! I thought of it as "glorious" - i.e. "to be
decorated".. Don't know really.
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Graeme
> The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
> Pro patria mori.
It is sweet and proper
Dying for one's country
Is that what the lie translates to in English?
> The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
> Pro patria mori.
It is sweet and proper
Dying for one's country
Is that what the lie translates to in English? My latin is rusty.
-Kevin
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(from Dulce et Decorum Est by Wilfred Owen)
If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-c
Wretched New Picture Of America
Photos From Iraq Prison Show We Are Our Own Worst Enemy
By Philip Kennicott
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, May 5, 2004; Page C01
Among the corrosive lies a nation at war tells itself is that the glory
-- the lofty goals announced beforehand, the victori
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