Kevin Graeme wrote:
> The intersting thing to me isn't the politics itself. It's that it
> made nary a blip on our media. In the US we are inundated with
> political infighting, and from what I occasionally see in the foreign
> media it spills over to other countries too. But we hear
> diddley-bupk
I bet they get a lot of volunteers to try the milk afterwards.
larry
On 8/17/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8967307/
>
> Had to use their search engine since they don't make it easy to find
> older articles.
>
> -Kevin
>
> On 8/17/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMA
> Had to use their search engine since they don't make it easy to find
> older articles.
And by older, I mean yesterday. :-p
-Kevin
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http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8967307/
Had to use their search engine since they don't make it easy to find
older articles.
-Kevin
On 8/17/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> got a link to the article?
>
> larry
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got a link to the article?
larry
On 8/17/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah, after I got interested I started to look for any mention in the
> normal outlets and saw that one buried story at CNN. The article comes
> in pretty late into the game though and it's pretty superficial.
As I've said, this thread was more to understand issues of awareness
and relevance than it was to focus in particularly on the issue in
Japan. Is it that I'm uninformed? Is it a media issue? Is Japan not as
relevant as I thought? Is our preoccupation with our own problems
simply drowning out the re
Stoned cows eat more.
More food == more weight.
More weight == more $$ at the slaughterhouse.
I didn't even open up the article, but I bet that is what it is about. :)
Farming genius!
Gruss Gott wrote:
>>Kevin wrote:
>>It was much harder finding anything at MSNBC but very easy to find a
>>st
There was me, that is Alex, and my three droogs, that is Pete, Georgie,
and Dim, and we sat in the Korova Milkbar trying to make up our
rassoodocks what to do with the evening. The Korova milkbar sold
milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what
we were drinking. This
Any chance they will export the milk?
On 8/17/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It was much harder finding anything at MSNBC but very easy to find a
> story about Russian cows being fed marijuana.
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> Kevin wrote:
> It was much harder finding anything at MSNBC but very easy to find a
> story about Russian cows being fed marijuana.
>
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Yeah, after I got interested I started to look for any mention in the
normal outlets and saw that one buried story at CNN. The article comes
in pretty late into the game though and it's pretty superficial. It's
from Aug 9 while there was a lot of debate prior to that leading up to
an Aug 5 vote. Bu
> Kevin wrote:
> I don't know about that. Sure there are a lot of people that seem less
> informed, but I think I'm also less informed than a lot of other
> people. I consider myself pretty average in that respect, really.
>
Then you've got to get out more. You're probably in the top 10% if not
I don't know about that. Sure there are a lot of people that seem less
informed, but I think I'm also less informed than a lot of other
people. I consider myself pretty average in that respect, really.
-Kevin
On 8/17/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My own impression of the people
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/08/09/japan.elections.ap/index.html
On 8/16/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So there's been a minor tussle recently in Japan's government. It's a
> little thing, revamping the postal system, that sort of blossomed into
> something that is threate
> Vivec wrote:
> I can't answer the first two, but the last I can. It's because there
> is no free press in the United States. One only has to look at what
> the major news stations in the country are, and who owns them, to
> realise that.
>
In the US we have a thing called capitalism which says
How can a democratic country that professes to be the pinnacle of
liberty, freedom,morality and Justice in the world do that?
How can citizens of that country who believe they are the pinnacle of
liberty, freedom and morality in the world reconcile something like
this with their belief?
And how
One always thinks less of the opposition. If conservatives generally
think of themselves as more logical, rational etc., while thinking of
the other side as emotional, irrational and unrealistics. Similarly
those who brand themselves as liberal tend to think the opposite.
The funny part of this wh
: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 10:52 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Japan, politics and relevance
>G said:
>
>>My own impression of the people on this list is that we're different,
>>far more well informed than the typical person. Many of my neighbours
>>cannot even locate Japan
>G said:
>
>>My own impression of the people on this list is that we're different,
>>far more well informed than the typical person. Many of my neighbours
>>cannot even locate Japan on the map for instance - ok that's an
>>exaggeration but you get the idea. The media reinforces the insularity
>>I s
> Kevin wrote:
> The intersting thing to me isn't the politics itself. It's that it
> made nary a blip on our media.
The US media isn't some standalone institution that's not doing it's
job; in fact, it's doing it's job perfectly: providing Americans with
news they want to read. I've heard about
e more typically seen from the conservative
person. What I've learned that is really important to me is that neither is
more valid than the other.
Matthew Small
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Former PM Pierre Trudeau put it very well:
"Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No
matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it
that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt."
-- Pierre Elliott Trudeau, Prime Minister of Canada, On relations
Interesting you would bring up that issue, because I just read about it in
the Times yesterday for the first time!
Frankly, I think a big part of it is just that Americans don't find trade
disputes to be very interesting news. I know I was bored reading about it.
As for the story itself, looks
I used to listen to 2WS, Sydneys classic hits, on the internet all the time
(check if out if you like classic rock: www.2ws.com.au)
Anyway, they would have an hourly news update, and each update had a section
dedicated solely to US news, including news that I would really consider
local in natu
On 8/17/05, Jochem van Dieten wrote:
> But does a major power shift in Japan equal a major policy shift?
I don't know. Even having read a bit about it, I still consider myself
relatively naive about the issue. And I'm not really even on about
Japan so much as my own awareness about world politics
my point exactly.
larry
On 8/17/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the Japan Times they had an article about the US opinion on the issue.
> http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nn20050810a5.htm
>
> What's interesting about that is that it was important enough to know
My own impression of the people on this list is that we're different,
far more well informed than the typical person. Many of my neighbours
cannot even locate Japan on the map for instance - ok that's an
exaggeration but you get the idea. The media reinforces the insularity
I see.
Here's another g
In the Japan Times they had an article about the US opinion on the issue.
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nn20050810a5.htm
What's interesting about that is that it was important enough to know
the US stance and print it in their paper, but there's not much in US
papers about the
Kevin Graeme wrote:
>
> The intersting thing to me isn't the politics itself. It's that it
> made nary a blip on our media. In the US we are inundated with
> political infighting, and from what I occasionally see in the foreign
> media it spills over to other countries too. But we hear
> diddley-b
On 8/17/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Um the Japanese Post Office is not a minor thing.
;-)
> As for how the US reacted, well its typical of the US - its always
> thought that the world ends at its borders. In essence the US ethos
> thinks that nothing is as important as its o
Well, you lived in Canada for a period right? So you can do a good
comparison between the US press and a foreign press on a day to day basis. I
can go out and read the BBC website, and I've listened to Australian news
agencies on the internetbut it's not the same as being immersed in a
medi
This happens all the time. In Israel Benjamin Netanyahu recently quit Sharon's
cabinet to protest the eviction of settlers in Gaza. In Germany Gerhard
Schroder recently lost a vote of no confidence. None of these things make a
very big splash in the US media which lately seems to be fixated o
both. Compre the US media to that of Japan, France, England,
Australia, Canada or South Africa. The US media is insular and inward
looking to a point of dangerousness. Mind you given some other
country's focus, ie., in Brazil it was really big news when a popular
member of menudo go kicked out for
I'd imagine the Bush administration is paying close attention. I bet they
know the issues, and the major players.
Nope, I can't answer any of those questions, and I watch and read the news
religiously. So are you criticizing our media for not giving enough air time
to this issue?
> OK its the
OK its the most important election in a major ally, and how much
attention is being paid to it. Do youknow any of the issues? Or the
major players. Who is running against Koizumi in his district or is he
a proportional rep?
Can you answer any of those questions?
You do the math. I am not saying m
> As for how the US reacted, well its typical of the US - its always
> thought that the world ends at its borders. In essence the US ethos
> thinks that nothing is as important as its own navel, or butt as you
> would have it. That is of course until something happens and bites the
> US in its ass.
Because US news media sucks for any information outside the US.
And I can't say I blame them. With limited time and advertising
concerns, the News Media shows what the US Public wants to see.
If 90% of their target viewers would switch if they started pushing a
story about what's happening in Jap
Um the Japanese Post Office is not a minor thing. Its sort of like the
BBC, the Postal System and a couple of major banks rolled into one.
What Koizumi wants to do is to break it up and privatize the remains.
This is big news in Japan.
As for how the US reacted, well its typical of the US - its al
There is a bit about it in The Economist this week, but I haven't seen much in
the U.S. press. We're too focused on the size of Jessica's butt and whether Jen
still loves Brad and what the two Parises are doing with their dogs.
>So there's been a minor tussle recently in Japan's government. It's
So there's been a minor tussle recently in Japan's government. It's a
little thing, revamping the postal system, that sort of blossomed into
something that is threatening the sitting party, has seen Prime
Minister Koizumi dissolve the House of Representatives, and apparently
caused one politician t
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