Re: List moderation?

2009-03-10 Thread Dana
oh ;) no wonder I was confused. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Twas a callback to a thread from a while ago where you did not call me an > asshole then either > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Dana wrote: > > > > > did I call you and asshole *again*? > > > > :: blink

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-10 Thread Dana
Amen. It does ;) /runs On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:43 PM, CFTodd wrote: > > Everyone gets lucky once in a while ;) > > > Charlie Griefer wrote: > > So wait a second here. Just wait one second. > > Am i to understand then... that Sam's reading comprehension does not, in > > fact, sux? :D > > ~

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread CFTodd
Everyone gets lucky once in a while ;) Charlie Griefer wrote: > So wait a second here. Just wait one second. > Am i to understand then... that Sam's reading comprehension does not, in > fact, sux? :D ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 so

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Charlie Griefer
So wait a second here. Just wait one second. Am i to understand then... that Sam's reading comprehension does not, in fact, sux? :D On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Judith Dinowitz wrote: > > And to answer Vivec's question: No, we're not putting in any sort of > list

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Judith Dinowitz
And to answer Vivec's question: No, we're not putting in any sort of list moderation. This was me reacting to what I perceived as an overly harsh attack on Michael. I saw him fuming and I reacted...The "thin ice" comment was probably badly worded. I certainly didn't mean

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Judith Dinowitz
That's exactly what it was. I perceived Judah as saying "Take your arguments elsewhere" and I thought that was extremely obnoxious. I was just trying to remind people that we should try to have less personal attacks and more thoughtful discussion - in no way was I saying that I was threatening to

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Scott Stroz
Twas a callback to a thread from a while ago where you did not call me an asshole then either On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Dana wrote: > > did I call you and asshole *again*? > > :: blinks :: > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > > Did you call me an asshole again?

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Dana
did I call you and asshole *again*? :: blinks :: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Did you call me an asshole again? ;) > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Dana wrote: > > > > > the problem with self deprecation though is that there is alway some > > asshole > > out there

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > "A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless > interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull > day." > > > That is awesome. -- Scott Stroz --- The democracy will cease to exist when you take a

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Scott Stroz
Did you call me an asshole again? ;) On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Dana wrote: > > the problem with self deprecation though is that there is alway some > asshole > out there who isn't playing be the same set of rules and will agree with > you > ;) > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Gruss Got

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Dana
always glad to provide some entertainment On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > Dana wrote: > > > > the problem with self deprecation though is that there is alway some > asshole > > out there who isn't playing be the same set of rules and will agree with > you > > True en

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > > the problem with self deprecation though is that there is alway some asshole > out there who isn't playing be the same set of rules and will agree with you True enough because actually my motto is: "A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a bat

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Dana
the problem with self deprecation though is that there is alway some asshole out there who isn't playing be the same set of rules and will agree with you ;) On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > TheGriefer wrote: > > the list owner? Surely there have been threads between Robe

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Gruss Gott
> TheGriefer wrote: > the list owner?  Surely there have been threads between Robert and Gruss or > Gruss and Sam UH! ME??? My motto is, "That's a thoughtful opinion, I must've been mistaken ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Charlie Griefer
ionno... every time i've been told that i'm on thin ice, it was a threat that suggested consequences were forthcoming if i did not promptly remove myself from said thin ice. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Sam wrote: > > I didn't see that as a threat. Just a point about how pointless his point >

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Sam
I didn't see that as a threat. Just a point about how pointless his point was :) On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Charlie Griefer wrote: > > I didn't read Judah's comment as suggesting that Michael leave the list.  I > read it as more of "I'm not buying what you're selling so take it somewhere >

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Charlie Griefer
I didn't read Judah's comment as suggesting that Michael leave the list. I read it as more of "I'm not buying what you're selling so take it somewhere else" (figuratively). Of course, it could be my comprehension that sucks... but I give Judah the benefit of the doubt that he's intelligent enoug

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > I think it was the "go somewhere else" that got Judith upset. I've never > used list owner as a weapon in my arguments. You have not. Which I guess is why it was so surprising to see. Surprising enough that it spawned a whole new t

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Sam
I know my reading comprehension sux according to a few on this list but... I read it is as a shock that someone would have the gall to tell the list owner to leave the list, not that she wanted Judah to leave. Do I need to re-read? On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Charlie Griefer wrote: > > It'

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I think it was the "go somewhere else" that got Judith upset. I've never used list owner as a weapon in my arguments. If I can't win or hold my ground on my own then my argument is flawed. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Charlie Griefer wrote: > > It's probably safe to say tho, that lots of folk

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Scott Stroz
I don't care who you are, when you discuss issues that we do here on cf-comm, you will get emotional...you will get angry...you will sometimes IM your friends, who are also on cf-comm, and ask them to make you stop. That being said, I am actually surprised this is the first time I have seen such

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Rastafari
wow i missed all this shit, wha ha happened On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Erika L. Walker wrote: > > Charlie said it all very eloquently and I love the list owners more than > they know (I do, I do) - but this is how I perceived Gel's post to mean as > well. > > > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 5:59

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Erika L. Walker
Charlie said it all very eloquently and I love the list owners more than they know (I do, I do) - but this is how I perceived Gel's post to mean as well. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Charlie Griefer wrote: > But brandishing the "list owner" title made it > feel like it isn't necessarily a

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Charlie Griefer
It's probably safe to say tho, that lots of folks get pissed off in a great many of the threads here. that's part of the fun of cf-community :) I think some of the concern that Gel is expressing, which I'll admit to feeling myself upon seeing Judith's reply, is that... well, is there a distinctio

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I think she looked at the thread after hearing me across the room fuming at the response that I got. She knows that if I get pissed there must be a VERY good reason. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Dana wrote: > > I agree. This may be why I have no idea what happened in the thread; I > really s

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Michael Grant
> > Indeed, to participate here now, you need to have a thick skin and a > slightly aggressive personality (or online persona at least). *nods* "Boy howdy!" ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Jerry Johnson
I concur! AIR MARSHALL!! And AIR GRETSCH to plug into it! On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Yeah but...but...this isn't about politics and the arguments!! > > Stop hijacking the thread! > > AIR MARSHALL!!! AIIIRRR MARSHAL!!! >

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Vivec
Yeah but...but...this isn't about politics and the arguments!! Stop hijacking the thread! AIR MARSHALL!!! AIIIRRR MARSHAL!!! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Tr

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
>> I agree. This may be why I have no idea what happened in the thread; I >> really see no point in a discussion where I could pre-script all the >> players. > > Nobody likes a quitter. (*facepalm*) ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 softw

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Robert Munn
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:03 AM, Vivec wrote: > > So I'm curious, given that thread and the responses by Judah that he > felt he had to make because of who was posting, if we're developing a > new policy of dealing with list discussion, > and if so what is that policy and its associated procedur

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > > I agree. This may be why I have no idea what happened in the thread; I > really see no point in a discussion where I could pre-script all the > players. Nobody likes a quitter. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > RoMunn wrote: > >> Honestly, most of the political threads have gotten formulaic. > > > > Isn't that the truth... > > > > You couldn't be more wrong about that. > OK that right there was funny :) -- I have failed as much as I have succ

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: >> Honestly, most of the political threads have gotten formulaic. > > Isn't that the truth... > You couldn't be more wrong about that. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Dana
I agree. This may be why I have no idea what happened in the thread; I really see no point in a discussion where I could pre-script all the players. I don't have time to look at the thread right now but I do deal with Judith quite a bit on the magazine and I suspect that a) she thought she could

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Robert Munn
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:12 AM, C. Hatton H wrote: > > Honestly, most of the political threads have gotten formulaic. > Isn't that the truth... ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Casey Dougall
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:12 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > It takes a LOT for the List Mama to > step in and tell us kids to behave. I ain't your momma but... P.L.R.U. Peace, Love, Respect, Unity Keep that in mind before posting, and use Mail Goggles if you can't remember the above before

Re: List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> During my tenure on this list, I have almost never seen any attempts > from the list owners about moderating any comments, or any posts by > any members. I've been around a long time too. It takes a LOT for the List Mama to step in and tell us kids to behave. The only times that I have seen i

List moderation?

2009-03-09 Thread Vivec
Hello, I just thought I'd make a comment in a new thread on what happened in that Afghanistan thread. I'm one of the longest members on this mailing list, having been here over 7 years, a very lengthy time by any account for participation in an online community. Over this time I've contributed t