RE: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-22 Thread Eric Roberts
ubject: Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising Ok, I'll concede to your point that they are not all bad. However, good or bad they are a drain on our resources here. What I'd like to see are some numbers that show whether or not their contributions to our economy

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-22 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I do. On a daily basis, including providing major funding toshelters for battered women since 1972. It probably the only issue for which I could be labeled an activist. " Good for you. It's a great cause. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Hen

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-22 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Don't call it a comeback. I been here for years. Government overreach, whistleblower crackdown, riaa lawyers in the administration, and civil liberties abuses are what I complain about constantly. And contact my representatives over. And ask my candidates their stance (and voting records) about.

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-22 Thread Maureen
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Why aren't they screaming about doing something to prevent that?" > > Who is "they"? They being the pundits who are making such an issue of illegals causing crime. > > Why aren't you screaming about it. I do. On a daily basis, including

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-22 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Why aren't they screaming about doing something to prevent that?" Who is "they"? Why aren't you screaming about it. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel, go o

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-22 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Old Sandals Making a Comeback" I'm going to find my Birkenstocks. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel, go out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton ~

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-22 Thread Jerry Barnes
"But if YOU were in their shoes...wouldn't you do the same thing? I know I would." I can't say I wouldn't. If I did, it wouldn't make it right and that's the point. It would still be illegal, I would still be a law breaker, I should still be deported if caught. J - Experience hath shewn, tha

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-22 Thread Eric Roberts
St. Reagan did it, so why not? On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > I swear to fucking god if undocumented workers get any kind if citizenship > or even green cards I am going to lose it. I paid over $1000.00 and > countless hours of paperwork and time traveling to interview

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-22 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
I know we are all heavy on this one, but I keep reading the subject line, wondering why everyone is posting about "Old Sandals Making a Comeback" I get confused every time I click into here. On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:41 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > I'm still here. > > Been homeless, have th

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-22 Thread LRS Scout
I'm still here. Been homeless, have the law down my neck all the time. I really thought about leaving but this is my nation. On May 22, 2013 11:27 AM, "GMoney" wrote: > > I dunno manit's easier to be noble and to have the luxury of principles > when it's just you. But if you have starv

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-22 Thread GMoney
I dunno manit's easier to be noble and to have the luxury of principles when it's just you. But if you have starving children? Forget it man. All bets are off. I do whatever is necessary to make a better life for them. Period. Spending a lifetime fighting The Man while they starve is not noble

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2013-05-22 Thread Maureen
It's obviously an old article, since it still has Arnold as governor. Also, most murders are domestic violence related. Why aren't they screaming about doing something to prevent that? On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Dana wrote: > > by the way I really have to question Jerry's numbers. (I am a

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2013-05-22 Thread Dana
by the way I really have to question Jerry's numbers. (I am answering your email because I have him filtered) Not only do they look ridiculously high, I am pretty sure that if the Albuquerque numbers were true I would have heard about this. On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 7:37 AM, GMoney wrote: > > Yea

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2013-05-22 Thread Dana
I get really tired of this trope. Illegal immigrants cannot get welfare, at least not without forged documents. I hear you on the legal immigrant thing, mind you. I am in the category, remember, and just went through a HUGE amount of bullshit replacing a green card after my purse got stolen. Stil

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-22 Thread LRS Scout
I would stay and change things. On May 22, 2013 10:38 AM, "GMoney" wrote: > > Yeah yeah...that pie in the sky shit sounds great when you are an American > sitting here living it up. Philosophy and the rule of law is great list > server fodder. > > But if YOU were in their shoes...wouldn't you do

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-22 Thread GMoney
Yeah yeah...that pie in the sky shit sounds great when you are an American sitting here living it up. Philosophy and the rule of law is great list server fodder. But if YOU were in their shoes...wouldn't you do the same thing? I know I would. On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-22 Thread Jerry Barnes
"We just shouldn't paint all of them with a broad brush." No, you can't say everyone of them is a piece of shit. However, you can use a brush that says all of them are here illegally. There is a process that allows immigrants to come to this country. They have no right to side step these condi

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-22 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Put yourself in the place of these 'sorry pieces of shit', who's only crime was being born in a shitty country. They look at the immigration process, that you mention is an absolute mess. They are dirt poor, they can't feed their families...and they look at this awesome country we have here. They

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Of course bruce the crime drop had nothing to do with law enforcement being all over the place. On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > Meanwhile, in El Paso, tx, in the 90's, Clinton decided to double up the > border patrol agents along the border, and crime went down dramatic

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-22 Thread Bruce Sorge
Ok, I'll concede to your point that they are not all bad. However, good or bad they are a drain on our resources here. What I'd like to see are some numbers that show whether or not their contributions to our economy offset the drain on our economy. Sent from my iPhone 4S. On May 22, 2013,

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-22 Thread GMoney
They aren't all good.some of them are bad dudes...they should be dealt with harshly. We just shouldn't paint all of them with a broad brush. You weren't being very selective...you called them all "pieces of shit". They aren't all bad. On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > >

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-22 Thread Bruce Sorge
Meanwhile, in El Paso, tx, in the 90's, Clinton decided to double up the border patrol agents along the border, and crime went down dramatically within days in that area. I guess it wasn't the illegal hardworking decent people doing the crimes since they never commit one single crime when they

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-22 Thread GMoney
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > In any event, I am so fucking pissed off that the idiots in Washington > would rather take the path of least resistance and just grant illegal > immigrants who broke the mother fucking law as soon as they ILLEGALLY > entered the U.S instead

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I swear to fucking god if undocumented workers get any kind if citizenship or even green cards I am going to lose it. " I've always said that there is an easy pathway to citizenship. Send the undocumented democrats back to their country and let them apply for a green card. "I paid over $1000.

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-21 Thread Bruce Sorge
I swear to fucking god if undocumented workers get any kind if citizenship or even green cards I am going to lose it. I paid over $1000.00 and countless hours of paperwork and time traveling to interviews and shit just to get my wife a green card and social security number. And now we are tryin

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
"What is interesting is that DESPITE all the roadblocks that they have put in his way, and their attempt at every juncture to block and frustrate all attempts to make things right, the economy is doing better. The deficit is down, a new medicare was passed, and the jobs situation is looking better

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-21 Thread Sam
Haha, you made beer come out my nose. Wait...where you serious? . On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Vivec wrote: > > What is interesting is that DESPITE all the roadblocks that they have put > in his way, and their attempt at every juncture to block and frustrate all > attempts to make things

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-21 Thread Vivec
What is interesting is that DESPITE all the roadblocks that they have put in his way, and their attempt at every juncture to block and frustrate all attempts to make things right, the economy is doing better. The deficit is down, a new medicare was passed, and the jobs situation is looking better.

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
"GOP doesn't want the focus on the economy and jobs because they lost on that front last election." No. They lost because they ran a Democrat. If people wanted to vote Democrat, they may as well vote for the one with a D beside his name, not an R. I voted for neither since they both sucked.

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2013-05-21 Thread Marlon Moyer
GOP doesn't want the focus on the economy and jobs because they lost on that front last election. GOP would rather waste time voting 37 times to repeal Obamacare, or drum up "scandals" to get their base riled up. On May 21, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Maybe they can focus on

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-21 Thread Eric Roberts
Maybe they can focus on jobs and the economy rather than all of these manufactured scandals... On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 2:20 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Executive privilege > On May 21, 2013 3:10 PM, "Jerry Barnes" wrote: > > > > > This is an older scandal that did not gain much attention

Re: Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-21 Thread LRS Scout
Executive privilege On May 21, 2013 3:10 PM, "Jerry Barnes" wrote: > > This is an older scandal that did not gain much attention when it happened. > I remember reading about it at the time. Just because it didn't get much > attention doesn't mean it was unworthy of attention. It just

Old Scandals May Be Making a Comeback: Sebelius Fundraising

2013-05-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
This is an older scandal that did not gain much attention when it happened. I remember reading about it at the time. Just because it didn't get much attention doesn't mean it was unworthy of attention. It just mean that the press was anxious to sweep any scandal under the rug in order to keep t