RE: Perfect Game Lost on Blown Call.

2010-06-04 Thread Jacob
out from being hit by a throw ball. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:36 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Perfect Game Lost on Blown Call. On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > One challenge per game as l

Re: Perfect Game Lost on Blown Call.

2010-06-04 Thread Scott Stroz
. > > I was with Selig on this not to overturn the call, especially for a personal > accomplishment.. where would you draw the line? > > -Original Message- > From: Ray Champagne [mailto:r...@raychampagne.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:58 PM > To: cf-community

RE: Perfect Game Lost on Blown Call.

2010-06-04 Thread Jacob
mplishment.. where would you draw the line? -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:r...@raychampagne.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:58 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Perfect Game Lost on Blown Call. Here is another question that I and a die-hard baseball co-worker wer

Re: Perfect Game Lost on Blown Call.

2010-06-04 Thread G Money
Balks? Yes. Fair vs. Foul? Yes. Check swing? Yes. Foul tip vs. Swing and miss? No. batter out of Box? Yes. Tag up? Yes. Batted ball hit runner? No. Thrown ball his runner? No. Not so easy. On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > Balks? No. > Fair vs. Foul? Yes. > Check Swing?

Re: Perfect Game Lost on Blown Call.

2010-06-04 Thread Scott Stroz
I would disagree with fair/foul - unless the coach is arguing a ball called fair was indeed foul. The other way around simply would not work - what base would you put the runner on? When I was in my late teens, I used to umpire a lot of games in the local baseball league. We went through training

Re: Perfect Game Lost on Blown Call.

2010-06-03 Thread Jerry Barnes
Balks? No. Fair vs. Foul? Yes. Check Swing? No. Foul tip vs. Swing and miss? Yes Batter out of the box? No Did the runner tag up or leave too early? Yes Did a ball in play hit a base runner? Yes Did a thrown ball hit a base runner? Yes Too easy. ~~

Re: Perfect Game Lost on Blown Call.

2010-06-03 Thread G Money
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > One challenge per game as long as they are not challenging balls and > strikes. > Balks? Fair vs. foul? Check swing? Foul tip vs. swing and miss? Batter out of the box? Did the runner tag up or leave too early? Did a ball in play hit a bas

Re: Perfect Game Lost on Blown Call.

2010-06-03 Thread Jerry Barnes
One challenge per game as long as they are not challenging balls and strikes. On 6/3/10, Ray Champagne wrote: > > I dunno, if done right, I think it would be an asset. Like football, there > needs to be a clear set of rules of when it can be used and how many times > it can be used. Call on th

Re: Perfect Game Lost on Blown Call.

2010-06-03 Thread G Money
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > What's wrong with > overturning precedent when the situation seems to scream for it? > Because the next situation might be slightly less obvious...and the situation after that, even less so...and so on, and so forth. I think Selig made

Re: Perfect Game Lost on Blown Call.

2010-06-03 Thread Ray Champagne
Here is another question that I and a die-hard baseball co-worker were debating this morning should Selig's office overturn the official's decision? I know it is incredibly unprecedented, but the evidence is so clear that no one is arguing that it should have been a perfect game. What's wro

Re: Perfect Game Lost on Blown Call.

2010-06-03 Thread Ray Champagne
I dunno, if done right, I think it would be an asset. Like football, there needs to be a clear set of rules of when it can be used and how many times it can be used. Call on the field stands if no conclusive evidence otherwise, no challenging balls and strikes, only pays in the field. Unlike fo

Re: Perfect Game Lost on Blown Call.

2010-06-03 Thread G Money
God I hope not. baseball is long enough as it is. On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > Could be the play that brings full instant replay to baseball. > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http

Re: Perfect Game Lost on Blown Call.

2010-06-03 Thread Jerry Barnes
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Re: Perfect Game Lost on Blown Call.

2010-06-03 Thread G Money
Was watching that last night (ESPN bonus coverage). Was beside myself. Joyce did the honorable thing right after the game was over...he admitted his mistake, and apologized to Gallaraga and Leyland. Galarraga's quote was equally noble, saying that Joyce is human and made a mistake, and hey, thi

Perfect Game Lost on Blown Call.

2010-06-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
DETROIT -- Armando Galarraga of the Detroit Tigers lost his bid for a perfect game Wednesday night with two outs in the ninth inning on a call that first base umpire Jim Joyce later admitted he blew. Wow. Jim Joyce has to feel lower than a s