RE: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-06 Thread Eric Roberts
I'll have to pick that up...Thanks for the tip Gruss. -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 21:07 To: cf-community Subject: Re: [politics] confused about shutdown You talking about this book? http://www.amazon.com/Lords-Fi

Re: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-06 Thread Casey Dougall
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > None of this jockeying matters. Once the dollar is knocked off its > perch as the world's reserve currency, we're Argentina. Either we get > there by debt crisis through over-spending to maintain social > stability, or we get there through c

Re: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread Gruss Gott
Good shut-down info: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal-shutdowns-in-the-1990s/2011/04/01/AFB2FvIC_gallery.html ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/14302721

Re: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread Gruss Gott
Vivec wrote: > > That is one of the more expensive Kindle books I've come across btw. > 15 bucks! Most are at most 9.99 or something like that :) > > I'll consider it. > I got it from the same place I get all my books: the library. However that book is so awesome I'm going to buy it (esp since

Re: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread Vivec
That is one of the more expensive Kindle books I've come across btw. 15 bucks! Most are at most 9.99 or something like that :) I'll consider it. On 5 April 2011 22:18, Gruss Gott wrote: > > That's it!  Awesome book. > > Leading up to it (or after) you might want to read Fault Lines. > > If you

Re: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread Robert Munn
It's been inevitable for decades, but it really gained momentum with the rise of the Internet and the globalization of knowledge work. Is there an end game? I think there are several being played by different parties in the international community. Take OPEC. Nominally, OPEC has a goal of maintai

Re: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread Gruss Gott
Vivec wrote: > > You talking about this book? > > http://www.amazon.com/Lords-Finance-Bankers-Broke-ebook/dp/B001QIGZEK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&m=AG56TWVU5XWC2&s=digital-text&qid=130208&sr=1-1 > That's it! Awesome book. Leading up to it (or after) you might want to read Fault Lines. If you ha

Re: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread Vivec
You talking about this book? http://www.amazon.com/Lords-Finance-Bankers-Broke-ebook/dp/B001QIGZEK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&m=AG56TWVU5XWC2&s=digital-text&qid=130208&sr=1-1 On 5 April 2011 21:44, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > I'm tellin y'allz, read Lords of Finance. ~~

Re: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread Gruss Gott
Robert Munn wrote: > > None of this jockeying matters. Once the dollar is knocked off its > perch as the world's reserve currency, we're Argentina. I'm tellin y'allz, read Lords of Finance. Yes it's a bit dense, but it's also great story-telling and will give you a full understanding of everyth

Re: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread Vivec
Robert, With the current economic model..wasn't this inevitable? I've been reading about this happening for the last 10 years, and seen articles for years before that. The people who maneuvered the economy to this point MUST have known what the outcome would be. Do you think there is no end-gam

Re: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread Robert Munn
None of this jockeying matters. Once the dollar is knocked off its perch as the world's reserve currency, we're Argentina. Either we get there by debt crisis through over-spending to maintain social stability, or we get there through civil unrest that topples the government when $6 trillion in cut

RE: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread Eric Roberts
Shh...you are introducing facts...it confuses him... -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 14:23 To: cf-community Subject: Re: [politics] confused about shutdown Get caught up with what, exactly? The deficit? Wouldn't

Re: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread Judah McAuley
Get caught up with what, exactly? The deficit? Wouldn't that require the IRS to collect taxes...which is a function of the government? Judah On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Jacob wrote: > > Why not.. I say shut down for a couple years. Lets get caught up. > > -Original Message- > From:

Re: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread Sam
An Obama Shutdown: How Could We Tell? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL8mlqiD2TU :) On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Jacob wrote: > > Why not.. I say shut down for a couple years. Lets get caught up. > ~| Order the Adobe Col

RE: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread Jacob
Why not.. I say shut down for a couple years. Lets get caught up. -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:58 AM To: cf-community Subject: [politics] confused about shutdown I'm reading about this looming "Government Shutdown" but I can

Re: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread Sam
Isn't that redundant? . On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Democrat has shown to have some mental stability issues. The Democrat ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Co

Re: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread Sam
They were hired to cut the deficits and the democrats want to increase spending. Should they compromise? The White House wants this more than anyone so they can paint the GOP as boogeymen. Politicas being played all around. . On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 2:37 PM, G Money wrote: > I think it would b

Re: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread Judah McAuley
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:37 AM, G Money wrote: > I think it would be more correct to say that: A majority of VOTING Americans > agreed with the general idea that over the next few years, we needed to > reign in spending, and thus voted in people who promised to do such. I don't even know if you

Re: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread Ras Tafari
or it can mean, not working without pay for a planned [day|week|month] per [day|week|month] for x [days|weeks|months] On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Sandra Clark wrote: > > Furlough means not working without pay until recalled. > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Vivec wrote: > >> >> "furlough

Re: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread Sandra Clark
Furlough means not working without pay until recalled. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Vivec wrote: > > "furloughed" is a euphemism for Fired? > > That sh** is scary. Especially with the already tight financial position. > > On the other hand, the American people voted this house in...so they >

Re: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread G Money
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Vivec wrote: > > "furloughed" is a euphemism for Fired? > Not reallymy dad was furloughed on two separate occasions many years ago, but was brought back both times just as promised. > On the other hand, the American people voted this house in...so they > mu

Re: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread Vivec
"furloughed" is a euphemism for Fired? That sh** is scary. Especially with the already tight financial position. On the other hand, the American people voted this house in...so they must agree with their policies. The Tea Party wouldn't be there otherwise. On 5 April 2011 13:29, Sandra Clark w

Re: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread Sandra Clark
ed real good for them in the 90's too ;-) > > -Original Message- > From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 12:11 > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: [politics] confused about shutdown > > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Vi

RE: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread Eric Roberts
That claim worked real good for them in the 90's too ;-) -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 12:11 To: cf-community Subject: Re: [politics] confused about shutdown On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Vivec wrote: > >

Re: [politics] confused about shutdown

2011-04-05 Thread G Money
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Vivec wrote: > > I'm reading about this looming "Government Shutdown" but I can't > figure what the heck that means. > I mean the government cannot *actually* shut down... > > yeah, it can, for the most part...though it's not quite as harrowing as it sounds. Happ