it *is* the domino argument.
On 11/18/05, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We broke it? I thought the whole point of going in was that Saddam had
> broken it.
>
> I cannot in my wildest imagination ever imagine any scenario where Iraq will
> be stablized. Regardless of when we leave, chaos is
ied.
>
> We have to stay, and we have to do the right thing.
>
> Tim
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 1:47 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: [politics] wait... this one is
> Howie wrote:
> Like it or not the country was at least stable when Saddam was in power.
I'd change this somewhat to say that the region was stable with
Hussein in power. Will Iraq itself ever be stable? Yeah, I think it
can be done but as I said, we need an insurgency-capable
Administration a
--- On Friday, November 18, 2005 10:00 AM, Maureen scribed: ---
>
> We broke it? I thought the whole point of going in was that Saddam had
> broken it.
>
Like it or not the country was at least stable when Saddam was in power. Now
there are insurrgencies everywhere and there would be a complete
We broke it? I thought the whole point of going in was that Saddam had
broken it.
I cannot in my wildest imagination ever imagine any scenario where Iraq will
be stablized. Regardless of when we leave, chaos is going to erupt.
This sounds remarkably like the Domino argument for why we couldn't le
> Howie wrote:
> We have to stay becuase of the Pottery Barn rule - we broke it now we have to
> fix it.
Yup - basically if we left Iraq we'd create a new Afghanistan and
probably much worse. What we need is an administration and Pentagon
that knows how to beat an insurgency.
Mr. McCain's point
We have to stay becuase of the Pottery Barn rule - we broke it now we have to
fix it. If we leave now the country will likely become far worse than it is
now and might even erupt into a 3-way civil war and could potentially draw
Turkey, Syria and Iran into the conflict. We have to stay until t
It does matter how we got there. However, it is a very serious matter
regarding how we get out. We can't just leave before the country is stabilized.
Howie
--- On Friday, November 18, 2005 2:04 AM, Loathe scribed: ---
>
> Dana,
>
> I am asking you, personally.
>
> Please stop.
>
> Who cares
Why do we have to stay and what is the "right thing"?
On 11/18/05, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Americans have died.
>
> We have to stay, and we have to do the right thing.
>
>
>
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Get the mailserver that powers this
> Who cares how we got there.
>
> Americans have died.
>
> We have to stay, and we have to do the right thing.
"Doing the right thing" in this case, means prosecuting criminals.
The people being prosecuted in this case have only compounded the
perception problem that Americans face in the world.
ty
> Subject: Re: [politics] wait... this one is better
>
>
> my favorite part: this guy has a public defender
>
> On 11/17/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Issuing Contracts, Ex-Convict Took Bribes in Iraq, U.S. Says
> >
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my favorite part: this guy has a public defender
On 11/17/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Issuing Contracts, Ex-Convict Took Bribes in Iraq, U.S. Says
>
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