RE: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-24 Thread LRS Scout
To what? On Jan 24, 2013 5:35 PM, "Eric Roberts" wrote: > > Mel Gibson movies aside...Still waiting on an answer Tim... > > -Original Message- > From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:58 AM > To: cf-community &

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-24 Thread Maureen
If you wanna see the true level of insanity, check this out. http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/joe-eszterhas-letter-mel-gibson-36949 On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Lost my mind, hell I'd probably take my life if I had to spend that much > time around that neonazi.

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-24 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Lost my mind, hell I'd probably take my life if I had to spend that much time around that neonazi. On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 2:12 AM, Maureen wrote: > > If I had spent as much time around Mel Gibson as Glover did, I've have lost > my mind too. > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Jerry Barnes wr

RE: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-24 Thread Eric Roberts
Mel Gibson movies aside...Still waiting on an answer Tim... -Original Message- From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:58 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery Hellz yeah Love that line. It's easy to forget now, bu

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-24 Thread GMoney
Hellz yeah Love that line. It's easy to forget now, but Mel Gibson was a great actor, played some great characters. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "South Africa was LW2..." > > Diplomatic Immunity . . . . Revoked. > > J > > - > > Ninety percent of politicians

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-24 Thread Jerry Barnes
"If I had spent as much time around Mel Gibson as Glover did, I've have lost my mind too." You know, the thought did cross my mind that Mel Gibson lost his mind as well. Unfortunate on both fronts. J - There is more that binds us to Bolshevism than separates us from it. There is, above all, g

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-23 Thread Maureen
If I had spent as much time around Mel Gibson as Glover did, I've have lost my mind too. On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "... but Danny Glover says different ..." > > Poor Danny. > > Sometime in the last 15 years, he lost his mind. > ~~

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
"South Africa was LW2..." Diplomatic Immunity . . . . Revoked. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel, go out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-23 Thread William Bowen
Oh wait, that was Fast Five... On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:50 PM, William Bowen wrote: > South Africa was LW2... I think in LW3 they went to Rio... > > > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:33 AM, GMoney wrote: >> >> Netflix blows.but we still have it. Oh well. >> >> Is LW3 the one with the South

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-23 Thread William Bowen
South Africa was LW2... I think in LW3 they went to Rio... On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:33 AM, GMoney wrote: > > Netflix blows.but we still have it. Oh well. > > Is LW3 the one with the South African guy? I think that one's LW2...i like > that one. > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Jerry

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-23 Thread GMoney
Netflix blows.but we still have it. Oh well. Is LW3 the one with the South African guy? I think that one's LW2...i like that one. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "He's gettin' too old for this shit.." > > No doubt. > > Wonder if Netflix streams Lethal Weapon? >

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
"He's gettin' too old for this shit.." No doubt. Wonder if Netflix streams Lethal Weapon? Nope. Hell, they don't even have LW 3 on DVD. Anybody know of a website that tells when the next airing of a movie will be? J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad repu

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-23 Thread LRS Scout
bwahahaha!!! On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:21 AM, GMoney wrote: > > He's gettin' too old for this shit.. > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > > > > "... but Danny Glover says different ..." > > > > Poor Danny. > > > > Sometime in the last 15 years, he lost his mind. >

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-23 Thread GMoney
He's gettin' too old for this shit.. On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "... but Danny Glover says different ..." > > Poor Danny. > > Sometime in the last 15 years, he lost his mind. > > J > > - > > Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress;

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-22 Thread Jerry Barnes
"... but Danny Glover says different ..." Poor Danny. Sometime in the last 15 years, he lost his mind. J - Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself. - Mark Twain ~| Order the

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-22 Thread Sam
... but Danny Glover says different ... . On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > It's not debatable. Everyone knows the reason for the 2nd amendment. Read > it and the Declaration of Independence and any doubt is quickly erased. >

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-22 Thread Jerry Barnes
"He loved and had children with one of his slaves." Maybe he fathered children by a slave. There is an alternate story that it was his brother. Anyway, he certainly was not a big supporter of slavery. Humorous video on TJ and his ancestors (about 30 seconds): http://www.youtube.com/watch?featu

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Mason was a very prominent slave holder, the second largest *slave* owner in Fairfax County after *George* Washington. The Gunston Hall site has a fair amount of sources and information about his views at the time. http://www.gunstonhall.org/georgemason/slavery/views_on_slavery.html On Tue, Jan

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-22 Thread Judah McAuley
I'd agree with you on Jefferson, I'm not so sure about Mason and Henry. I'd like to know more, however, as this isn't an area I know a huge amount about and I think that the research isn't extensive. I also don't know if it really changes much from a practical, legal interpretation perspective bu

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-22 Thread LRS Scout
With Jefferson at least, who authored and confirmed the amendment, this simply isn't true. Yes he was a large slave owner, but fought to have it outlawed in his own state, and failed. He loved and had children with one of his slaves. I have no doubt that some people felt they needed guns to sto

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-22 Thread J.J. Merrick
Fascinating read! Of course I WANT it to all be true because it does fit my personal narrative, so I will need to do more research because it is almost too good to be true :-) -J.J. On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I wonder about the "revisionist history" thing myself

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-22 Thread Judah McAuley
I wonder about the "revisionist history" thing myself but the fundamental problem is that people on most sides of an issue are attempting it all together and it changes over time so you end up with revisions of revisions and it can be hard to figure out what really happened. And, of course, the s

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-22 Thread LRS Scout
Oh yeah it was. If anything I think the post reconstruction, pre-civil rights era showed us just how bad these southern race based laws on everything from gun ownership to voting to property ownership really were. On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > That was the article

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-22 Thread Judah McAuley
That was the article that Jerry sent the other day, I think. On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:05 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Jews for the preservation of firearms ownership did a good article on the > racism inherit in gun control. I'll see if I can find it. > > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM, J.J.

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-22 Thread LRS Scout
Jews for the preservation of firearms ownership did a good article on the racism inherit in gun control. I'll see if I can find it. On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM, J.J. Merrick wrote: > > It's something that is touched on in Bowling for Columbine in the > cartoon short that is in the middle

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-22 Thread J.J. Merrick
It's something that is touched on in Bowling for Columbine in the cartoon short that is in the middle of it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLzo9pOXa-s I think it is part of the revisionist history that seems to be very prominent in most "causes" Make the stats and the history lineup with yo

Re: 2nd Amendment and Slavery

2013-01-22 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Link added to my Pocket reading list. Thanks. On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Jerry B. had a link the other day about things Americans should know about > the 2nd Amendment. It contained a short bit about slavery and the 2nd > Amendment. I just came across a really i