Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > "Barack Obama may be a smooth talker, but As with Bush, the past is the best predictor of the future - Bush was a former business failure, bought that skill set to the Whitehouse, and turned the US into a failure. So, based on that analysis methodology, what can we predict about Ob

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-06 Thread Bill Wheatley
LOL i feel ya there. I've got a well documented history on here of not being the most eloquent SOB on the list. On 6/4/08, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Or just having a little fun with the discussion. I am not one of the > most eloquent speakers on this list and sometimes I fail to c

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-06 Thread Bill Wheatley
When you say B. Hussein Obama what are you trying to imply? On 6/4/08, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > God I don't even know where to start. > This man Obama has so many people brainwashed into thinking that he is > going to take this country where we need to go. Nothing could be furt

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-05 Thread sam morris
> 1.) Has lived the american dream: divorced parents, Like Clinton? >lower class upbringing, worked his ass off, went to Harvard f'n law school the hard way: by earning it. He lived with his wealthy grandparents and went to private school in Hawaii. > 2.) Has a wife who did the same (see #1)

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-05 Thread Dana
sure there is :) it's implied :) We've beaten this one into the ground I think. On 6/5/08, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is no implied "all", so you didn't really understand his pointbut > then, you've wandered off so... > > :) > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Dana <[EMAIL

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-05 Thread G Money
There is no implied "all", so you didn't really understand his pointbut then, you've wandered off so... :) On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > not sure about anyone else but I understood your point. I just don't > agree with it :) It is like saying that all guys

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-05 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dan wrote: > testosterone poisoning. Do NOT make me t-rage. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive:

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-05 Thread Dana
not sure about anyone else but I understood your point. I just don't agree with it :) It is like saying that all guys suffer from testosterone poisoning. Plenty of them out there do, but not all. It's the implied "all" that I don't like in your comment. /me wanders off On 6/5/08, Crow T. Robot <[

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-05 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > During rendition of the national anthem Mm Hm, and how about the pledge of allegiance? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-05 Thread Crow T. Robot
Still not quite sure I made my point here, so I'll give it one last go, then quit. When one is about to give what they hope is a convincing argument, and they get all puffed up and start using 10 dollar sentences, I think of it as the educated man's equivalent of a roid-head pushing out his chest

RE: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-05 Thread Billy Cox
IL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 2:31 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight just because I use words of more than one syllable and don't grunt as much as the others no need to be jealous. >This sentence was sponsored by Roget's Thesaurus. > >

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-05 Thread Larry Lyons
Its a matter of expression. Sometimes I find that the best way to express things is to use longer words etc., rather than single syllable words and grunts, like the jocks I see on the playing fields out my window. Mind you for them I blame the steriods. >While I rarely show it here, I do have a

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-05 Thread G Money
I love tapping into ten cent words when I get a chance. My wife hates it, because I have to keep repeating sentences too her until they resemble something she's familiar with.she never developed the love for words that I did :) Seriously though, a broad vocabulary is great because it allows yo

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Sam
During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand bei

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Gruss Gott
> Weegs wrote: >> He refuses to wear a flag, or respect it during our national anthem by >> putting his hand over his heart. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9iCANi02o And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dljboY5t2Dw ~| A

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread denstar
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > I'm writing in Ron Paul. Woohoo! O should use him as a VP. That would be awersome! A boy can dream, can't he? -- A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams. ~John Barrymore ~~~

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread denstar
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > eh, it's not a contest. What a supposititious mendacity! Hell, I love words. Etymology y todo. Language just freaking roxorz. Communication, man, is where it's at. Indubitably -- hehe. I said doobie. ~~~

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Dana
eh, it's not a contest. I'm just saying though that I don't see this. But I am probably one of the people that you think do this. On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While I rarely show it here, I do have a decent vocabulary. My comment > (made in jest real

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Crow T. Robot
While I rarely show it here, I do have a decent vocabulary. My comment (made in jest really) was just trying to point out that some people here, when they are trying to make an argument in which sounding more educated will help make their point, they go over the top with the vocabulary. It's just

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Dana
i don'[ see why having a vocabulary has to be seen as trying to impress people. I think most people here are past that. We know who agrees with us and who does not. And as some of the past mega-threads have demonstrated, number of words don't change that, not do number of syllables. On Wed, Jun 4,

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Crow T. Robot
Haha - glad you took that the humorous way (the way I meant it). When I read it back to myself, it sounded kinda bitchy. :) On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey I an an over educated type. They expect me to talk real good. > > >It's kinda funny how some

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Larry Lyons
Hey I an an over educated type. They expect me to talk real good. >It's kinda funny how some ppl on this list get all verbose sometimes, but >not always. Just those times when it seems like they are trying to impress >us or sound extra-edumacated... > ~~~

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Larry Lyons
It will be a challenge, but good luck to you. Myself I wouldn't want to be at the tip of the spear. larry > I would have applied had I not already committed myself to the Army. > Honestly though, I look forward to going back to Iraq, but I am not > going back into the Army for that reason. I tr

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Crow T. Robot
It's kinda funny how some ppl on this list get all verbose sometimes, but not always. Just those times when it seems like they are trying to impress us or sound extra-edumacated... On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > just because I use words of more than on

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Dana
oh were you the one that write that? :) I was wondering what the post was about. Somebody else threw peanuts once when I used the word paucity in a sentence ::shrug:: I blame the parents On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > just because I use words of more than

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Larry Lyons
just because I use words of more than one syllable and don't grunt as much as the others no need to be jealous. >This sentence was sponsored by Roget's Thesaurus. > > >"I find it rather sad that instead of debating ideas many republicans and >those to the right of center use insults and invective

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Vivec
I really hope he does NOT have HIlary as his Vice President. But the Democratic Party may want to cover all its bases. 2008/6/4 Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > True as well, although historically the VP doesn't do crap (until > Cheney). Plus I've heard the deal they cut is that he'll offer it,

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Gruss Gott
> tBone wrote: > How about instead of just repeating the mantra of change you actually > look at this guy. > > He refuses to wear a flag, or respect it during our national anthem by > putting his hand over his heart. False, I'll send you the YouTube that puts to rest this urban legend later. > He

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Tony
Exactly bruce On 6/4/08, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > True true. I know many soldiers who enlisted after 9/11 that were > patriots before, and are more so now because of what happened. > In retrospect, I don't think that Tony was referring to service members > though. I think he was

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Dana
hard to see how On 6/4/08, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just because you don't think we can, doesn't mean others agree with you. > > Vivec wrote: > > "Just because he is black does not mean he is a going to > > be a good president.." > > > > Didn't see anyone saying that actually. > > A

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Bruce Sorge
I would have applied had I not already committed myself to the Army. Honestly though, I look forward to going back to Iraq, but I am not going back into the Army for that reason. I truly love being a soldier. I feel that is my destiny. I was thinking of being wary of suspicious moguls. LOL. Larr

RE: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Billy Cox
This sentence was sponsored by Roget's Thesaurus. "I find it rather sad that instead of debating ideas many republicans and those to the right of center use insults and invective. it really does indicate a paucity of ideas, and a willingness to use rancor instead of debate." ~

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Larry Lyons
Well if you wanted to go to Iraq that much, you could have always gone for this job: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs/thread.cfm/threadid:5261 its all good, good luck to you and stay away from any suspicious looking garbage piles - you never know what in them, Colorado can be a rough

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Crow T. Robot
hahaha good times On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The room was certainly interesting :) > > Foggy you might say. > > Tony wrote: > > i did a couple years ago, when i met loathe and larry and morchellapaul, > ray ray > > and some others... peacepipe baby :)

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Loathe
The room was certainly interesting :) Foggy you might say. Tony wrote: > i did a couple years ago, when i met loathe and larry and morchellapaul, ray > ray > and some others... peacepipe baby :) w00t w00t > > tw > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Th

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Bruce Sorge
True true. I know many soldiers who enlisted after 9/11 that were patriots before, and are more so now because of what happened. In retrospect, I don't think that Tony was referring to service members though. I think he was talking about other people. People who never even thought of flying a fl

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread G Money
Come on now, I wouldn't call post-9/11 enlistees "fake patriots". Sometimes it just takes something to stir a dormant storm that was always present. On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Same here. I originally enlisted in the 80's. No fake patriotism here. > A

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Bruce Sorge
Same here. I originally enlisted in the 80's. No fake patriotism here. And yeah, I am an old fart. ;-) But I can keep up with the best of 'em. Bruce Loathe wrote: > Shit man, I enlisted in the 90s, don't have to worry about that with me. > ~

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread G Money
will be thinking about ya Bruce..stay safe, kick some ass man. On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That would be very cool but I am sure that I will be in Iraq by then. I > swear in tomorrow morning and will head to Colorado next week after the > movers co

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Tony
i did a couple years ago, when i met loathe and larry and morchellapaul, ray ray and some others... peacepipe baby :) w00t w00t tw On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That would be very cool but I am sure that I will be in Iraq by then. I > swear in tomorrow

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Bruce Sorge
That would be very cool but I am sure that I will be in Iraq by then. I swear in tomorrow morning and will head to Colorado next week after the movers come and pick up my stuff. But if I ever get the chance to attend one of these events, even though I am done programming, I will jump at the cha

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Mean Focker
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Larry Lyons
> Or just having a little fun with the discussion. I am not one of the > most eloquent speakers on this list and sometimes I fail to choose my > > words wisely. Another of my problems is that I can be overly sarcastic > > while making my point, but I am not trying to insult anyone, at least >

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Loathe
Makes sense, and like I said, it's not that he doesn't wear it, it's that he now makes a point of not wearing, not saluting the flag. The way he and his wife talk about this nation and it's history and it's ideals, I just don't see them being the people that should lead us. G Money wrote: > I

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Loathe
Shit man, I enlisted in the 90s, don't have to worry about that with me. Tony wrote: > that would bother me as well... but i dont see it as a deal killer... > > the clowns around here that became insta-patriots on 9/12 kill me anyway... > > its all good... > > the voters will decided, and we wi

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Larry Lyons
>How about instead of just repeating the mantra of change you actually >look at this guy. > >He refuses to wear a flag, or respect it during our national anthem by >putting his hand over his heart. I don't think that such shallow displays are indicative of true patriotism. To me its more patrio

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Bruce Sorge
Or just having a little fun with the discussion. I am not one of the most eloquent speakers on this list and sometimes I fail to choose my words wisely. Another of my problems is that I can be overly sarcastic while making my point, but I am not trying to insult anyone, at least not on purpose.

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Tony
bri you always know what i mean to say :) tw On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:39 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can see your point Loathe, but wouldn't it piss you off is someone were to > question your patriotism because of something you were wearing...or worse, > because of something you w

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread G Money
I can see your point Loathe, but wouldn't it piss you off is someone were to question your patriotism because of something you were wearing...or worse, because of something you were NOT wearing? I mean, would you really feel the need to hurry out and dress yourself in such a manner just to prove t

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Larry Lyons
I find it rather sad that instead of debating ideas many republicans and those to the right of center use insults and invective. it really does indicate a paucity of ideas, and a willingness to use rancor instead of debate. >I did that on purpose with no other intent other than to push a button,

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Tony
that would bother me as well... but i dont see it as a deal killer... the clowns around here that became insta-patriots on 9/12 kill me anyway... its all good... the voters will decided, and we will punditize :) tw On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's not th

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Loathe
It's not the act, it's more the refusal, like it's beneath him that bothers me. Tony wrote: > and one more thing... i dont wear american flag pins either... > however, im as american and ready to be american as the next > schmo... so, i dont see where that disqualifies him either... > > just bec

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Loathe
Absolutely, hey I'm friends with Larry and we're about as different politically as can be. Tony wrote: > but dont get me wrong tim, your still my boy, you are allowed to think > diff than me, and im allowed to think diff than you... you are a cool mofo > and i respect you, as you have respected m

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Tony
and one more thing... i dont wear american flag pins either... however, im as american and ready to be american as the next schmo... so, i dont see where that disqualifies him either... just because we got shredded by some fucks on a plane with box cutters doesnt make wearing a pin the status quo

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Tony
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about instead of just repeating the mantra of change you actually > look at this guy. ok > He refuses to wear a flag, or respect it during our national anthem by > putting his hand over his heart. http://www.youtube.com/watc

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Loathe
How about instead of just repeating the mantra of change you actually look at this guy. He refuses to wear a flag, or respect it during our national anthem by putting his hand over his heart. He converted from Islam to Christianity at his wife's suggestion that it would cause him election prob

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Bruce Sorge
I did that on purpose with no other intent other than to push a button, which I obviously was able to do with ease. I know he is not a Muslim and anyone who thinks that he is has not been paying attention. Heh. Man that was too easy. Tony wrote: > oh and one more point... > > your almost predict

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Tony
oh and one more point... your almost predictable and comical use of "B. Hussein Obama" nearly left me on the floor in laughter. thats the BEST thing you connies can come up with... i hear it all the time from my favorite ones back home... "you're gonna vote for someone with Hussein in his name???

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Tony
yanno i personally dont give a fluck who you vote for hombre. honestly. the last thing i want is another 4-8 years of republican, washington dc bull shit. obama has black in him, yes, therefore in this case i was referring to a black man... however, its hardly due to his blackness or mocha-ness

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Bruce Sorge
Then I guess you missed his second point: 'because it would be fuckin killer to have a man of color represent our melting pot.' Typically, when someone says a man of color, they mean someone who is *not* white. In the context of this conversation, we are talking about a black man. Follow the boun

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Loathe
Just because you don't think we can, doesn't mean others agree with you. Vivec wrote: > "Just because he is black does not mean he is a going to > be a good president.." > > Didn't see anyone saying that actually. > And if you think that America can ever hold its head high over > Iraq...well... >

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-04 Thread Vivec
"Just because he is black does not mean he is a going to be a good president.." Didn't see anyone saying that actually. And if you think that America can ever hold its head high over Iraq...well... 2008/6/4 Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > God I don't even know where to start. > This man Obama

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-03 Thread Bruce Sorge
God I don't even know where to start. This man Obama has so many people brainwashed into thinking that he is going to take this country where we need to go. Nothing could be further from the truth. Just because he is black does not mean he is a going to be a good president.. And you don't really

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-03 Thread Loathe
He's a constitutional scholar that believes in ignoring the constitution. Gruss Gott wrote: >> Weegs wrote: >> because change for the sake of change is a REAL possibility. >> > > I would add because it will be nice to have a president that: > > 1.) Has lived the american dream: divorced parents,

RE: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-03 Thread Adam Churvis
Very well said, sir. Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement > -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:28 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight >

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-03 Thread Loathe
Dudes got more baggage than the beverly hill billies at this point, and he's going to hitch ol' billary to his wagon? Yeah, nope. I'm writing in Ron Paul. Tony wrote: > because change for the sake of change is a REAL possibility. > because it would be fuckin killer to have a man of color repres

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-03 Thread Gruss Gott
> Weegs wrote: > because change for the sake of change is a REAL possibility. > I would add because it will be nice to have a president that: 1.) Has lived the american dream: divorced parents, lower class upbringing, worked his ass off, went to Harvard f'n law school the hard way: by earning it.

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-03 Thread Tony
because change for the sake of change is a REAL possibility. because it would be fuckin killer to have a man of color represent our melting pot. because it would be cool to have a guy who can go talk to a nation that we may have shunned in the past. because it would be change of regime in a city th

Re: Barack Obama Speech Tonight

2008-06-03 Thread Bruce Sorge
Because Tony wrote: > very powerful. > kinda martin luther king-ish at times. > very inspiring. > my wife who hasnt voted for a president yet, cannot WAIT to vote for him. > i think we saw history tonight > and i think a hillary veep slot would secure it 100% for the dems. > > way to go m